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Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question)
    #25304794 - 07/02/18 03:55 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

ok so  long time reader first time poster i have a question about WBS.

i made 5 quart jars like 2 months ago and inoc them with a spore syringe (i have the pf tek down but my first attempt at WBS) and out of the 5 only 1 jar colonized  and its been very slow,  could be my temp its just my closet. since then i did 12 pf jars  that are almost 100 complete  and my 1 wbs jar is like 80% complete and its not a super vibrant white mycelium  it looks weak  im pretty sure its not contam or anything the rye seeds look super dry and shriveld  im thinking its running out of water...ill post picks once i know how too on here....  anyways  im turing my pf jars into mulch for a base to a coir mono tub  should i dump this jar of seed in with it or should i try doing grain to grain xfer?  iv never done that and all i got is like a tiny homemade cheap ass ghetto style glove box  im noob as fuck to bulk growing but so not too sure what to do here with the rye jar  thanks!!




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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25305251 - 07/02/18 07:49 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I would get into agar. And that jar doesn't look awesome unfortunately

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25305265 - 07/02/18 08:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I'm thinking bacterial? One side seemed colonized and the other not... have you shaken it?  did you PC your grain? How long? This is rye? I've only worked with wild bird seed (wbs) but have read that rye likes the dryer side, so probably not the issue there... Not supposed to rinse rye either I don't believe


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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25305283 - 07/02/18 08:11 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

its rye  iv shaken it lots  and i pced  15 ps for 1.5 hrs

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25305296 - 07/02/18 08:19 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Why did u shake it lots? Shake it after it comes outta the pc. Then once more when 30% of the grains are covered with mycelium. Then again b4 spawning. Too much shaking can slow or stall growth.

Wait wait, 2 months colonizing?... No Bueno man. U can try to fruit that top jar by itself in a shoebox or top fruit it. But start making a new batch. Got spores?

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: nube424]
    #25305313 - 07/02/18 08:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Too much shaking can slow or stall growth.




false. dirty myc will slow/stall growth. i shook a jar everyday once for a goof. grew shrooms just fine.
and ya, 2months is awful. either toss or top fruit like nube said cause chances are that shit will mold out on you.

anyway i dont think the too much shaking thing hold any water any more than not shaking.

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: mushboy]
    #25305325 - 07/02/18 08:35 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

True. It slowed growth in my case. Never actually seen one stall from it. And every day mushboy? That's crazy. I can't say I've ever done it that much. Most I did was 4 total. When I shake once at 30 and again at 70 it's done in basically a week. Maybe 7-10 days. 14 in winter

I'm talking about g2g with the colonization times

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: nube424]
    #25305331 - 07/02/18 08:37 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

its not crazy its something you can do when the spawn is cleeeean. some older cultivators SWEAR by multiple shakes.

thats why i tried it for myself. :stoned: it didnt really do anything. colonized at about the same rate and was spawned with a few other jars.

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: mushboy]
    #25305349 - 07/02/18 08:47 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm. Yea I'll just stick to what I know. Maybe try it on an extra jar just in the name of science. Experiments are awesome. I did an experiment recently with bovung manure/humus and it actually is working great so far. All knotted up ready to go. Maybe some pins tomorrow

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: nube424]
    #25305356 - 07/02/18 08:51 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

cool.

remember.... you cant say it works, until you have fruits in hand:stoned: for all you know its a festering tub waiting to explode with mold.

anywayzzzz...

OP needs agar in his life and whats with the jar lids/filters.. whats going on up in that? :thisisgonnabegood:

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: mushboy]
    #25305600 - 07/03/18 12:23 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Could be using syringe, when I switched to agar I had success with wbs, didnt have it with syringe like 1/30 jars


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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: Enkidu]
    #25305817 - 07/03/18 05:08 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yea op needs help. That's why I asked if he had spores? So do ya? If u don't maybe someone can help out. Then we can get u going again the right way.

OP, read thru bods and hamloafs teks. They both have GREAT tells that me and everyone here use. When u look thru old posts, look at the date. If it's from before 2008, try to find newer info. There's a lot of bad info on here. Gotta sift thru it.

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: nube424]
    #25305937 - 07/03/18 07:08 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea op needs help. That's why I asked if he had spores? So do ya? If u don't maybe someone can help out. Then we can get u going again the right way.




Just took PE6 prints, OP is welcome if you wanna pm me your address...


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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: mushboy]
    #25305953 - 07/03/18 07:27 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Too much shaking can slow or stall growth.




false. dirty myc will slow/stall growth. i shook a jar everyday once for a goof. grew shrooms just fine.
and ya, 2months is awful. either toss or top fruit like nube said cause chances are that shit will mold out on you.

anyway i dont think the too much shaking thing hold any water any more than not shaking.



Or you could check out and Do what I did in my bacterial grow. Check out the sig.  I mean if you were gonna throw it away anyways? Why not?
All i did was DONT shake the grains , dump out the jar, take the healthy chunks of colonized myc, rinsed them off in luke warm water,place chunks in a tray, top with cococoir, threw it in my greenhouse,or a sgfc would work.
The pic in my sig was a stalled completely bacterial wbs that everybody said was damned for failure. Then I seen the results and said I'll be damned.


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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: PurePleasure]
    #25306058 - 07/03/18 08:41 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Or get agar and transfer a colonized grain to it

I can also send a print or 2 if u pm me as well.

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: PurePleasure]
    #25306132 - 07/03/18 09:25 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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The pic in my sig was a stalled completely bacterial wbs that everybody said was damned for failure. Then I seen the results and said I'll be damned.




:takingnotes: so THAT'S where boobs come from!
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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25306644 - 07/03/18 03:13 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i used s spore syringe to incoc all 5  from the same syringe im thinking it was just very poor on spores and only 1 jar took  i looked again today and its still going  90% of the grain in colonized  and i cant see a single contam or off color  to me it just looks less then bright white, i do have more syringes but i dont wana waste them if its only gona take on 1 jar

should i dump them in its own separate mini mono tub?

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25306655 - 07/03/18 03:17 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

and thanks guys  first crack at grain and not too sure what happened  i did everything as per instructions of rye teks  the ONLY thing i didnt do was add gypsum cause i couldnt find any  maybe spore syringe is bad for grain?

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25306662 - 07/03/18 03:21 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

and id LOVE a real print  guys but unless one of yall live in canada not too sure sending one would be a good idea lol

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25306675 - 07/03/18 03:28 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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and id LOVE a real print  guys but unless one of yall live in canada not too sure sending one would be a good idea lol



Might be able to help you out with a GT I have. PM me your address

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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: sonofmorbo]
    #25307182 - 07/03/18 09:11 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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i used s spore syringe to incoc all 5  from the same syringe im thinking it was just very poor on spores and only 1 jar took  i looked again today and its still going  90% of the grain in colonized  and i cant see a single contam or off color  to me it just looks less then bright white, i do have more syringes but i dont wana waste them if its only gona take on 1 jar

should i dump them in its own separate mini mono tub?



Be sure to shake and flame your syringe between jars: this will help prevent dumping all your spores into one jar, our cross contaminating


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Re: Lend your advice shroomery! (wbs question) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25307265 - 07/03/18 10:05 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I would do syring to agar to agar to grain or grow something and do clone to agar to agar to grain


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