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 BigSurMoon
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 Black kow experiment   9
#25300352 - 06/30/18 07:55 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So got this black kow idea from bluelou's shit pyle style grow. Its in outdoor cultivation, somewhere. Black kow is supposedly pre-pasturized. He said you could spawn to black kow without any prep,pasterization,etc. And he was right, just grab it out of the bag, and mix it up with your spawn, clean spawn works better,lol. Seroiusly, I dont do shit to it, maybe break it up a bit, but thats it. Thanks to bluelou for his thread!
There's been much discussion on how BK can vary in consistency, and or quality, wich can affect its performance. The cultivator needs to be familiar with substrate quality and or feel. If its too wet, adding verm can help. And if BK isn't available at a box store, then coir is a much more viable option. IMO, BK is great cause it eliminates having to match or measure spawn to substrate, and the no prep. However much, or however little, you have substrate "on-tap". But if you can't find, I would just use coir.
Heres some results from using black kow, straight outta the bag!
                                              
Heres a side by side, coir vs bk.
  
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25300428 - 06/30/18 09:04 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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where can i find this tek.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25300461 - 06/30/18 09:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4304709
This was kept inside and the lid was on? Post dry weight?
Awesome thread  +5
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4304709
This was kept inside and the lid was on? Post dry weight?
Awesome thread +5
Yes, indoors, lid on till 50-70% colonized, then lid flipped, check twice a day. Last two days of growth it was neglected, except lights, timers. I basically used the bk as substrate, cased it with moist verm. Dry weight i dont have, i normally dont care.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25332417 - 07/17/18 08:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Updated bk shoebox. Got a couple of boxes going with bk as a substrate. This one is wbs/ms spawned to roughly 1:1 sub/spawn ratio.
Looks like a good pinset!!!
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25332553 - 07/17/18 09:50 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Even if it works reliably (IDK about that) Black Kow is way more expensive than coir, verm, straw, horse manure or just about anything else you could use.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5] 1
#25332594 - 07/17/18 10:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is this what y'all are talking about?
Because if it is...WALMART sells 50 lbs it for less than $10.
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Thats the stuff. Yeah id say its pretty cheap.
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25332971 - 07/18/18 04:18 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
Even if it works reliably (IDK about that) Black Kow is way more expensive than coir, verm, straw, horse manure or just about anything else you could use.
5$ for 50lbs...It is the cheapest, by far. Im not trying to prove anything here, just sharing something im doing. Seems to be working pretty well so far...  heres two more trays,
Edited by BigSurMoon (07/18/18 04:39 AM)
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25333113 - 07/18/18 07:02 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It doesn't work very well though. None of those yields look ideal.
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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25333684 - 07/18/18 01:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It doesn't work very well though. None of those yields look ideal.
You dont consider this an ideal yield from 2pts of spawn?
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25333712 - 07/18/18 01:43 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks pretty good to me 
Never used black kow for anything but I need to pick some up for pan cambo grow, since I can't seem to find local poo. Good to know its so cheap at the mart
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Results speak louder than any doubter. Good on you for trying something novel and cheap out. That pinset on the last shoebox looks 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: JHOVA]
#25335023 - 07/19/18 07:26 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Results speak louder than any doubter. Good on you for trying something novel and cheap out. That pinset on the last shoebox looks
Thanks man, love me some boobies!
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25335025 - 07/19/18 07:30 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's another brand called bovung that works great too. Less sandy too. Just did 2 small grows with it
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25335061 - 07/19/18 07:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nube424 can you use that straight outta the bag too?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: JHOVA]
#25335063 - 07/19/18 07:58 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Idk about outta the bag. I didn't try to. But with black cow the nutes are .5-.5-.5 the brand bovung is manure + humus and the nutes are 1-1-1.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25335257 - 07/19/18 10:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said:
There's another brand called bovung that works great too. Less sandy too. Just did 2 small grows with it
Right on, I will have to look for it. Is it at the big box stores?
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25335437 - 07/19/18 12:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got mine at the depot. I'll go take a pic of the bag
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25335442 - 07/19/18 12:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25335644 - 07/19/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said:
Thanks, ...does that say dehydrated? Hows the moisture content feel? I will have to check it out. You do any prep? Thanks again!
Heres the box before "selective harvest",lol.
Heres what I left to grow out.
 
Floated it so it could get a dunk. Sub seemed solid, should make to another frush.
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Edited by BigSurMoon (07/19/18 03:53 PM)
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25335777 - 07/19/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Under $10 for 50# isn't bad. Cheaper than most coir if you add the water weight into it.
3pack of 650g bricks + water is like 25-26 pounds for me.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bodhisatta]
#25335795 - 07/19/18 04:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said:
Under $10 for 50# isn't bad. Cheaper than most coir if you add the water weight into it.
3pack of 650g bricks + water is like 25-26 pounds for me.
It is super cheap! Have you read the bluelou thread? Im anticipating some sort of limitation or downfall,lol. It seems too easy, and too good to be true. Im gonna mess with it for a while, I have a bag and a half, and no time. I had to bring 3 shoeboxes out of town with me just I could keep an eye on them. I know its retarded, but i couldnt just leave em! Wish i had an apprentice, lol.
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25335843 - 07/19/18 05:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
BigSurMoon said:
Quote:
bodhisatta said:
Under $10 for 50# isn't bad. Cheaper than most coir if you add the water weight into it.
3pack of 650g bricks + water is like 25-26 pounds for me.
It is super cheap! Have you read the bluelou thread? Im anticipating some sort of limitation or downfall,lol. It seems too easy, and too good to be true. Im gonna mess with it for a while, I have a bag and a half, and no time. I had to bring 3 shoeboxes out of town with me just I could keep an eye on them. I know its retarded, but i couldnt just leave em! Wish i had an apprentice, lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: jtraccs]
#25335945 - 07/19/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh wow, this is cool. Seems promising...!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Psicomb]
#25347285 - 07/26/18 12:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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So a little update:
Lost my shoebox to the nasty's.   thinking it could have been a combo of neglect for last 3 days, and the stump,abort forest i left. Or, not wanting to admit, but very well could've been the spawn. Either way, try,try again.
This guy was 1/2pt to bk in a little tray
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I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25349817 - 07/27/18 06:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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With the bovung, it's about the same wetness as peat unless the bag gets rained on a lot. So pretty dry, but has a little dampness feel to it. I've just experimented with it a couple times, but I just add small amounts of water till its at field cap. I do it a little under field cap actually. I'm playing around with prep, sterilized it once and pasteurized it once. Gonna go for unsterile technique like u next time.
Just to add, my bag of it sits outside and the weather has gotten it to perfect field capacity. And even being closed up in the bag wet, it doesn't have any trace of mold anywhere I can see. So seems pretty contain resistant on its own.
And the DEHYDRATED Is the manure. So it's dehydrated manure mixed with humus. Not composted which is probly why it had double the nutes. Idk if that's a good or bad thing yet.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25349889 - 07/27/18 07:40 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
nube424 said:
With the bovung, it's about the same wetness as peat unless the bag gets rained on a lot. So pretty dry, but has a little dampness feel to it. I've just experimented with it a couple times, but I just add small amounts of water till its at field cap. I do it a little under field cap actually. I'm playing around with prep, sterilized it once and pasteurized it once. Gonna go for unsterile technique like u next time.
Just to add, my bag of it sits outside and the weather has gotten it to perfect field capacity. And even being closed up in the bag wet, it doesn't have any trace of mold anywhere I can see. So seems pretty contain resistant on its own.
And the DEHYDRATED Is the manure. So it's dehydrated manure mixed with humus. Not composted which is probly why it had double the nutes. Idk if that's a good or bad thing yet.
So far i havent added any water to it during prep, but i have yet to get it to flush more than once. Wich i believe is directly related to the lack of moisture. I have a couple little trays that are going for flush two, they dry out daily. I might have to try adding water during prep/spawn. Next week Im going to spawn some more shoeboxes, and hopefully enough spawn to do a 32qt unmodified, I got some 14qt totes the other day i might try as well.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25349904 - 07/27/18 07:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe try making a thicker sub. 4" depth won't dry out like 2" will. Maybe add a handful of MG moisture control. It's basically coco and peat mixed together.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25349931 - 07/27/18 08:13 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said:
Maybe try making a thicker sub. 4" depth won't dry out like 2" will. Maybe add a handful of MG moisture control. It's basically coco and peat mixed together.
Thats what its called? Mg moisture control? I suppose one could use verm as well. I like the lazy shit tho, but one flush is a waste of spawn imo.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25349938 - 07/27/18 08:16 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Miracle grow is MG and moisture control is the specific type of "soil". Or u can just use coir verm or peat.
Do u pasteurize? Maybe u should test the ph, maybe it needs lime to make it multiple flushes.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25349954 - 07/27/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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one flush is a waste of spawn imo.
Depends on the flush. When I was growing at scale I never let shit go for more than one. The real estate became more valuable than the sub.
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Pat The Bunny said:
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bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25349959 - 07/27/18 08:35 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea if u can push out a huge first flush and have more stuff ready to go. Who cares. Especially with such cheap ingredients that don't take much work.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25349971 - 07/27/18 08:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said:
Miracle grow is MG and moisture control is the specific type of "soil". Or u can just use coir verm or peat.
Do u pasteurize? Maybe u should test the ph, maybe it needs lime to make it multiple flushes.
I dont pasturize the bk. I do bucket tek coir,cvg. Im still pretty green with bulk substrates. Im going to read about ph. Its something ive read, but have no understanding of its effect. The whole point of using the bk was cause its cheap and no prep. Imo, anything I have to do besides grabbing it and mixing with spawn defeats the whole purpose. I really want to work on its own. But some tweeks might make it worthwile, I have noticed that theres seems to be more rhyzo growth during colonizing compared to my coir, or cvg subs. If that means anything. Im sure its too early to make judgements.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25349982 - 07/27/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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BigSurMoon said:
one flush is a waste of spawn imo.
Depends on the flush. When I was growing at scale I never let shit go for more than one. The real estate became more valuable than the sub.
Thats kind of how I feel too, It just seems like I waste a lot of stuff also. Lol. What do you mean by at scale?
Wanted to add, if its a good flush then it wouldnt bother me i guess. But if it sucked then it would feel like a waste. But i cant help but thinking.. your overthinking!
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Edited by BigSurMoon (07/27/18 08:48 AM)
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25349989 - 07/27/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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At larger scale. One flush monos put out more if u have an assembly line set up.
And subs with a higher ph contaminate easier because it makes it more favorable for contaminants than the mycelium. If u lower the ph to 5 it should do better, that's assuming the ph is high and that's why it's done after 1 flush.
And pasturizing is usually essential to indoor growing. If u wanna skip being sterile and pasty rising stuff ur best bet would probly be wood lovers and outdoor cultivation.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25350022 - 07/27/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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What contaminants are you referring to? Everything I can find states that fungi prefer an acidic environment in the the pH range of 5-6. This is why casing materials are pH adjusted up, to make them less favorable to both the fungus one is cultivating as well as airborne fungal contaminants.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
#25350032 - 07/27/18 09:24 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not that educated. Ok I just mean if the ph is off. The problem is more likely that u didn't pasteurize it.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25350140 - 07/27/18 10:21 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It was a larger tub than I thought. It's a 72 qt but has less surface area than my 62qt.? Well I spawned 4 fresh clean wbs qts of f+ to roughly 4 qts bovung. I just dropped agar in those last Friday so they were fast and look pretty clean to me.
   
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25350312 - 07/27/18 12:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It was a larger tub than I thought. It's a 72 qt but has less surface area than my 62qt.? Well I spawned 4 fresh clean wbs qts of f+ to roughly 4 qts bovung. I just dropped agar in those last Friday so they were fast and look pretty clean to me.
Thats faster than anything ive done yet. Mine have been two weeks easy. Be cool to see how that tub does.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25350335 - 07/27/18 12:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea these f+ I got in a give away have been crazy fast so far every time. I'm interested to see how it goes too my last one colonized in 3 days. That was coir tho.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25350440 - 07/27/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wrong tub. It's not supposed to be opaque. It should still work but watch your lighting.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25350448 - 07/27/18 01:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea I know. I have clear tubs but they're all being used, and I had some jars ready and said what the hell.  my plan is to replace the lid with syran wrap in a week so it gets light. I have 5000k led's over it.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25353552 - 07/29/18 08:15 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Few 1/2pt trays to the kow.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25354103 - 07/29/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll definitely have to give it a try without pasturizing it.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25355197 - 07/30/18 06:09 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Friday:
Today:   
Should I just start fruiting or wait a day?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25355210 - 07/30/18 06:16 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should I just start fruiting or wait a day?
Damn, yeah looks around 90-95%, fruit em up
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Damn. Nice tub dude. 3days and it's good? I'd fruit now.
 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25355605 - 07/30/18 10:23 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Friday:
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Should I just start fruiting or wait a day?
Was that the jars that colonized in a week as well? That seems crazy fast to me. Is it an isolate or clone? If it is, you might have something special there! Good for you!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25355674 - 07/30/18 10:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes same jars. It's just MS after 2 transfers from spore. The plate was like a month and a half old sitting in the attic thru that heat wave. Pulled it out and put 1/4 of the pasty plate in each of 4 jars. Shook at 30% which was like 4 days and it finished 3 days after the shake.
Every time I germinated new spores from this f+ print I got I've seen the same growth. It's in fruiting now.
We'll see how this goes 
Last Monday, 3 days after inoculation.
 
This past Friday.
This morning.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25356060 - 07/30/18 02:20 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow guys thanks for keeping up sharing, I think this is very cool.. Would love to see others results and try myself..
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Nice find fo sho if it works consistently.
Looks promising.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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Nice find fo sho if it works consistently.
Looks promising.
Yeah i wish i wasnt out of town working for next couple weeks. But i will crank some out and post when i get back. Im kinda hoping other people will try it out and post results. To me it was too cheap and easy not to try it, lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25370776 - 08/06/18 06:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did a bunch of trays this time. Wbs,brf. Couple of my clones and mss from spore prints I made. Most are 1/2pt. A few are 1pt.
  
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25371639 - 08/07/18 04:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can u explain the wbs brf? U mix both? Just curious.
I'm still waiting for the tub I did to pin. Colonized lightning fast and now it's taking its time lol.
Ps. I like ur setup
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25371744 - 08/07/18 06:28 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can u explain the wbs brf? U mix both? Just curious.
I'm still waiting for the tub I did to pin. Colonized lightning fast and now it's taking its time lol.
Ps. I like ur setup
Thanks, I think the ones with labels are wbs, wich are clones. The rest are brf, mss innoc.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25371765 - 08/07/18 06:45 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh ok got it.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25371804 - 08/07/18 07:15 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh ok got it.
I like the wbs, but i switched brands and my prep was all over the place as far as moisture went. So i did a bunch of brf so i can keep the ball rollin. Hopefully the wbs works out. Found one contaminated this morning. Probably gonna try a g2g today, havent tried that yet. I just have a ton of cultures left that i want to use.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25371869 - 08/07/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Easiest wbs prep IMO, no soak no simmer. I wash the seeds, boil a big pot of water. When it's boiling good I turn off the heat and dump the seed in. Slowly so u don't burn urself. Then I let sit for 30-40 minutes. Strain and allow to dry. Maybe an hour.
I've never fucked them up this way and they have plenty of moisture. Some burst grains but
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25371877 - 08/07/18 07:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i also use that method basically bucket teking wbs.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: mushboy]
#25371887 - 08/07/18 08:01 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It goes in the jars a lil damp but hydrates more in the pc. Idk if u noticed the same thing mushboy?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25372203 - 08/07/18 10:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It goes in the jars a lil damp but hydrates more in the pc. Idk if u noticed the same thing mushboy?
Im gonna try it like that now. I just got some more wbs and qt jars were on sale. I was doing like couple hour soaks. Last batch i let soak too long, This last stuff had cracked corn wich i didnt notice when i bought it, dont like that shit at all. Live n learn.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Mine has cracked corn... Not ideal but it works fine for me.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Mine has cracked corn... Not ideal but it works fine for me.
I got some finch seed this time, not cheap! Im probably go back to the first stuff i used. It was cheap and was easy to sift out what i dont want.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Yea I just get the cheapest shit possible lol. Got fancy and bough safflower seed one time. That was not a fun time. I've been curious about nyger seed. Not gonna waste my money tho.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25372545 - 08/07/18 01:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea I just get the cheapest shit possible lol. Got fancy and bough safflower seed one time. That was not a fun time. I've been curious about nyger seed. Not gonna waste my money tho.
I hear ya! The cheap stuff has been the best. Im thinking of trying oats or grain. I like to try new things.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25372551 - 08/07/18 01:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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New things are fun. We learn thru experimentation.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25373164 - 08/07/18 06:33 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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So If I read it right your just using the raw bk manure brand with not pasteurising or anything? They sell this locsllly I wanna try it now, for the moistur lost have your tried mixing with some added verm or anything? Looks nice
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
#25373297 - 08/07/18 07:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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So If I read it right your just using the raw bk manure brand with not pasteurising or anything? They sell this locsllly I wanna try it now, for the moistur lost have your tried mixing with some added verm or anything? Looks nice
Yep, just right out of the bag, no pasturization,or prep. I did one of my first tubs with a moist verm casing. Didnt seem to make a difference. Im sure if you kept an eye on them, misted,bottom-watered, they would do better. Im kind of going the lazy, hands off approach right now. My current trays I did the lid loose for two days, then bagged them, and not touching them till their ready for harvest. Just testing the parameters.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25374026 - 08/08/18 04:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea it's only $5 give or take a few cents. It USED TO BE $3. Around here anyway. Prices jumped last year
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25376641 - 08/09/18 07:33 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Update on mine: 13 days after spawning, 10 fruiting. 1 lonely side pin because it shrunk a little.
  
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Update on mine: 13 days after spawning, 10 fruiting. 1 lonely side pin because it shrunk a little.
Im amazed how colonized peoples surface are. I dont know if I havent paid enough attention to mine, but I swear mine never white out like that before it starts pinning. Seems like there is always some uncolonized substrate in mine. Is that a pe variety? Im gonna try some pe soon. Just gotta get the balls to order em! Lol, that part scares the shit outta me. You gonna try the bk all day nube? My new slogan,lol, bkad!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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It's actually f+. Usually that's from uneven sub, or low spawn ratio, or too dry/wet. Urs look fine tho. Maybe low spawn ratio? In that tub is 4qts wbs and 4 qts manure.
I spawned one yesterday with no prep, (well I added water to it) and it's going good so far.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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It's actually f+. Usually that's from uneven sub, or low spawn ratio, or too dry/wet. Urs look fine tho. Maybe low spawn ratio? In that tub is 4qts wbs and 4 qts manure.
I spawned one yesterday with no prep, (well I added water to it) and it's going good so far.
Thats awesome, good luck. Im pretty sure I havent used more than 2pts in a shoebox yet. Im gonna up my spawn, I stepped up to bigboy jars now, lol, im itching to try some bigger unmodifieds, and i have a 60something tub for a mono. Just havent had the time
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25377822 - 08/09/18 05:26 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are the pics in bottom in your sig from this method ?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
#25378751 - 08/10/18 02:41 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, all the pics in this thread are.
And I always use 1:1 or 1:2 or in the middle somewhere. Ull like monos. They hold conditions better.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
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Are the pics in bottom in your sig from this method ?
The shoebox on the right is a bk box. The biggun is from burying subs. PSA: bury your spent subs,lol, cover them with bk, then dirt, top it off with some dead grass or leaves.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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  they look so nice! To me at least,lol. Definitely have to keep an eye on them and mist when needed. I left wed, and they all were doing well, some have pins. But most shrank and needed a mist. Maybe I like things on the moist side though. I hate the word moist! Anyway, casing might be must to keep moisture good. But Im learning as I go, who knows they might be fine as they are. So far spawning to bk right out of the bag has not contaminated once through colonize,and first flush. Went threw a 50lb bag so far. Ive had two tam out after first flush so far. Most likely spawn, but cant say for sure though. Id say this shit rocks!....er, fer now,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25380198 - 08/10/18 06:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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If just confused on the bk if it Is not pasteurized why it’s wouldnt be growing out other molds/ bacteria, when wetted and spawned with colonized grain jars
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
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If just confused on the bk if it Is not pasteurized why it’s wouldnt be growing out other molds/ bacteria, when wetted and spawned with colonized grain jars
Huh??
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25380947 - 08/11/18 05:39 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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If just confused on the bk if it Is not pasteurized why it’s wouldnt be growing out other molds/ bacteria, when wetted and spawned with colonized grain jars
It doesn't mold in the bag does it?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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If just confused on the bk if it Is not pasteurized why it’s wouldnt be growing out other molds/ bacteria, when wetted and spawned with colonized grain jars
It doesn't mold in the bag does it?
Not yet, i bought two, finished first one with no issues. Ill probably bust into the new one today. Ive been keeping it in the bag in my garage. It seems to hold moisture better when its in the bag.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25384102 - 08/12/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moving right along!
       
My clones are out preforming random isolates.  
I had done 14 plates from original vendor mss, and I have been using up some of my transfer plates. The top row of trays is the random isolates. The last few pics are my clones.
Harvested two clone trays, one ms this morning.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25395730 - 08/18/18 06:18 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well i think its time to bump the thread, I cant believe more people arent interested by this. Anyway, 17qt unmodified tub, 3 1/2 pts wbs spawned to the mooo.
  stay tuned, big unmodifieds coming, and some casing experiments in the works
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25395736 - 08/18/18 06:26 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll try it once I'm up and running again
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: mushboy]
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I'll try it once I'm up and running again
Right on! Cant wait to hear other peoples take on it. Those little pics in your message, how do you do those? You find them online? Lol im such a interweb noob,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25395761 - 08/18/18 07:08 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very much interested. Appreciate the follow up sharing.
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Yup I'm gonna be using it to case PE variants...ill post in this thread when i get to that point. Should be pretty soon. I'll probably still get blobs but
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
#25395918 - 08/18/18 09:05 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I tried it without pasturizing, and using bacterial spawn. Here's my early results. 1:1. 6 qts of each.
  
And everyone SHOULD try this. It was kinda funny cuz I tried it a few days before I saw this thread. The only thing is it does lose moisture easily, maybe adding a 1/4 brick of coir would help tremendously. That's my next trial run. 1:2 coir:manure.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25395944 - 08/18/18 09:29 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I want to try this with some pans. I'm putting in a ton of work for shit results, so putting
in less work for shit results would be great.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Well i think its time to bump the thread, I cant believe more people arent interested by this. Anyway, 17qt unmodified tub, 3 1/2 pts wbs spawned to the mooo.
stay tuned, big unmodifieds coming, and some casing experiments in the works
when did you flip the lid? any misting? looks good.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
#25395964 - 08/18/18 09:39 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Definitely worth a try. It's cheap as fuck. Would probably work great for pans. I need to get some pans. Getting bored with cubes. A cubes a cube.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25396102 - 08/18/18 10:44 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I use black kow in my outdoor grows. It works well especially mixed with dry grass or straw, it's too dense on its own, like mud.
I've never tried to use it inside though I imagine it'd be best pasteurized as there's all sorts of random shit in it. To me it's more like soil than it is manure. If you've ever grown cubes in flower pots you'll know what I mean.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: maddchef]
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Idk man, it colonized very well, like poo. I don't think potting soil would colonize that well. I could be wrong tho. And this wight here is without pasturizing.
   
Anybody have a suggestion a which pin from which cluster I should clone? 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: JHOVA]
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Well i think its time to bump the thread, I cant believe more people arent interested by this. Anyway, 17qt unmodified tub, 3 1/2 pts wbs spawned to the mooo.
stay tuned, big unmodifieds coming, and some casing experiments in the works
when did you flip the lid? any misting? looks good.
I flipped it at spawn, last two days i had lid cocked so corners were open. I have had high rh lately. Daily misting morning and night.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Idk man, it colonized very well, like poo. I don't think potting soil would colonize that well. I could be wrong tho. And this wight here is without pasturizing.
Anybody have a suggestion a which pin from which cluster I should clone?
It does colonize well, Sometimes i think we impose are thoughts on the whole thing. It has sticks, and rocks, and all kinds of shit in it, just like outdoors, where they all came from.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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I tried it without pasturizing, and using bacterial spawn. Here's my early results. 1:1. 6 qts of each.
And everyone SHOULD try this. It was kinda funny cuz I tried it a few days before I saw this thread. The only thing is it does lose moisture easily, maybe adding a 1/4 brick of coir would help tremendously. That's my next trial run. 1:2 coir:manure.
But then you have to prep coir,lol. Im just lazy. And getting lazier.
I mist morning and night and that seems to keep up well. But even with coir as sub i still had to mist at least once a day. Looking forward to see how the bacterial box goes!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Well, coir doesn't take much prep? Just throw it in a bucket, or a cooler or whatever with some hot water. Once it absorbs the water it's ready.
I was only saying coir to add some better water retention. I guess verm could be added too which takes no prep. But u would have to add water. I don't really call that prep tho. As long as I can avoid pasturizing for hours on end I'm good.
So bigsurmoon, u don't even add water to the bk? I'm surprised it works that well without adding water. Every time I get bk or bovung it's pretty dry.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Well, coir doesn't take much prep? Just throw it in a bucket, or a cooler or whatever with some hot water. Once it absorbs the water it's ready.
I was only saying coir to add some better water retention. I guess verm could be added too which takes no prep. But u would have to add water. I don't really call that prep tho. As long as I can avoid pasturizing for hours on end I'm good.
So bigsurmoon, u don't even add water to the bk? I'm surprised it works that well without adding water. Every time I get bk or bovung it's pretty dry.
Haha coir is labor intensive! (Sarcasm)
No water, i just mist twice a day. This bag im on now seems drier. I just love being lazy and still have decent results. Im not picky, and I really dont have high standards, I learned pretty quick that I dont have the attention to detail, and the patience it takes to be a great cultivator. I just have fun growing. Im gonna go get a few more bags and stock up for the cold season, lol. I have time during the winter months, so Im sure I will do some experimenting. Good to see ya here still nube
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Idk man, it colonized very well, like poo. I don't think potting soil would colonize that well. I could be wrong tho. And this wight here is without pasturizing.
Anybody have a suggestion a which pin from which cluster I should clone?
It does colonize well, Sometimes i think we impose are thoughts on the whole thing. It has sticks, and rocks, and all kinds of shit in it, just like outdoors, where they all came from.
I'm using potting soil & my myc seems to love it. I bought this big bag of organic stuff from the depot for like $6 and it's full of composted nutrients the myc may be able to use. I prep it via Violet's casing prep tek: First I sift out the sticks & chucks through a fine mesh strainer & it comes out like espresso ground coffee.
I hydrate it past field capacity & microwave out the extra moisture. This is done 2x, 18-24 hours apart & the result is fluffy & well hydrated & any gnat eggs & mold spores which may have been riding along in the mix are dead.
This is 72 hours from spawning, 1:1, RGS & the prepped potting soil, pseudocased at spawning:
Then at eight days (last night):
IMO, potting soil is probably not the right choice for most, but it definitely works well.
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What type of potting soil? Oh is it the stuff in the yellow bag?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25398157 - 08/19/18 10:09 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the stuff I'm using
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Not the one I was thinking of but natures care is good stuff. Says its yucca and coir. So I can see why it works good. When I hear potting soil I think of the old stuff, that cheap brown shit full of perlite.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25398253 - 08/19/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Only the finest dirt for my spawn!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25398494 - 08/19/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Miracle grow moisture control is similar. I've used that with good results too.. The thing I like about the black kow is manure. It makes using poo easier and more accessible for us city folk. And like stated above, could be an easy way to do pans.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Miracle grow moisture control is similar. I've used that with good results too.. The thing I like about the black kow is manure. It makes using poo easier and more accessible for us city folk. And like stated above, could be an easy way to do pans.
I wanna try pans too! Got a bunch of cube varieties coming, next bunch is gonna be edibles and pans.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25398894 - 08/19/18 03:58 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just spawn 4qts of pan jams to some yesterday. I was going to throw them out anyway, so
figured I would just experiment.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
#25399178 - 08/19/18 05:55 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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How's it recovering? And do u do any prep work? Pasteurizing or adding water?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25399410 - 08/19/18 08:00 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't do anything except add a little water. I was going to throw this spawn away, because
I knew it would suck no matter what I did.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
#25399600 - 08/19/18 09:50 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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U never know till u try. I had 6 jars I was gonna chuck due to bacteria. Glad I didn't cuz I got a decent pinset.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25399899 - 08/20/18 03:34 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just spawn 4qts of pan jams to some yesterday. I was going to throw them out anyway, so
figured I would just experiment.
I love it, im excited to see what other people think. Especially from experienced growers, I kind thought i was being a lazy noob by using bk, but it starting to look like it has a place in cultivation. Who knows maybe some months down the road it might deserve a tek. From a noobs pov, it cant get easier.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25400934 - 08/20/18 03:25 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello all, just wanted to go over my process with some pics, I spawned 4 shoeboxes each with 2pts shady wbs. Got a little wet during sterilizing but wtf, ill spawn em. So I throw in spawn and put in roughly 4 scoops of black kow, straight out of the bag, adding nothing. Ratio looks like this Then I mix it up good by hand and level it off nice Then I usually put one more scoop of bk to cover the grains This time Im doing two with the "casing scoop", and two without. Heres how they look all done.  And thats it! Easy like sunday morning.
And heres some shitty second frushes on the trays. 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25411939 - 08/25/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update on the black kow, straight outta the bag with 6 qts of BACTERIAL spawn. Not bad for store bought manure and not very healthy spawn.
I don't weigh my harvests wet, but it's 2.6 oz dry.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Update on the black kow, straight outta the bag with 6 qts of BACTERIAL spawn. Not bad for store bought manure and not very healthy spawn.
I don't weigh my harvests wet, but it's 2.6 oz dry.
Wow great results!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Update on the black kow, straight outta the bag with 6 qts of BACTERIAL spawn. Not bad for store bought manure and not very healthy spawn.
I don't weigh my harvests wet, but it's 2.6 oz dry.
Thats awesome, its cool stuff, did notice one of my tubs has got little flies, and some grass growing in it. But it works awesome, just have to mist mine at least once a day. I should have something worth showing soon.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Yea the flies definitely hitched a ride cuz it wasn't pasteurized. Not many tho. I've only seen 1 in this tub. Which I don't think is too bad for not cooking it at all. Maybe there's an insecticide that could come in handy for unpasteurized bulk?...
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Yea the flies definitely hitched a ride cuz it wasn't pasteurized. Not many tho. I've only seen 1 in this tub. Which I don't think is too bad for not cooking it at all. Maybe there's an insecticide that could come in handy for unpasteurized bulk?...
They suck, I got tons of em in my 30qt unmod tub, and now i got a spot that looks suspect. Havent lost a tub before first flush yet, so we will see. Ill get pics up soon, but i got a rgs box starting to pin, looks nice. I might try more rgs, ive read it doesnt do well in bulk, but ive also read that bk doesnt work, lol
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Have u ever researched fermented substrates? It's a way to sterilize/pasteurize grains or bulk. Takes time, but no work or heat.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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nube424 said:
Have u ever researched fermented substrates? It's a way to sterilize/pasteurize grains or bulk. Takes time, but no work or heat.
Sounds interesting, i will def look that up. Im bummed, I got to wally world to late, all the bk is gone for the season. I hate how they move next seasons shit in so early. I grabbed some other organic compost/manure that specs same .5-.5-.5. If this stuff works out of the bag i will be amazed. I got, pe,purple mystic,brazil,maz,and cambodia, streaked some plates, and did some brf. Cant wait to try some pe, everybody says its pretty potent, we shall see
Your contamed tub sure looked nice, i forgot to ask if that is a 60 something qt tub
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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My contaminated tub? The one I posted yesterday isn't contaminated. It was a "small" Home Depot cardboard box lined with plastic. 6 quarts of bacterial spawn and about 6 qts of black kow. And if they moved it from Walmart, I'll bet the depot or lowes has it.
And yea basically fermented substrates is exactly like it sounds. Letting it ferment to kill off bad bacteria while keeping the the good bacteria. It was very interesting stuff to read.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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My contaminated tub? The one I posted yesterday isn't contaminated. It was a "small" Home Depot cardboard box lined with plastic. 6 quarts of bacterial spawn and about 6 qts of black kow. And if they moved it from Walmart, I'll bet the depot or lowes has it.
And yea basically fermented substrates is exactly like it sounds. Letting it ferment to kill off bad bacteria while keeping the the good bacteria. It was very interesting stuff to read.
I meant spawn, I spawned some shitty stuff, and a couple that werent even fully colonized, too wet, and all of them seem to be doing fine. Im baffled cause everything ive read stresses how clean your spawn must be, and must do proper pasterization on sub, and all these posts about failures due to spawn or sub. I must be really lucky i guess. Seriously, I would get laughed off this site if everyone could see me work, and my work areas.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Hahaha I hear u man. i feel the same as u, they're mushrooms, they will grow. People just push the right information to help better everyone. Less contamination means more mushrooms. So people try to spread info that helps everyone instead of just letting people do things the "wrong" way and having more of a chance of failure.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Yea the flies definitely hitched a ride cuz it wasn't pasteurized. Not many tho. I've only seen 1 in this tub. Which I don't think is too bad for not cooking it at all. Maybe there's an insecticide that could come in handy for unpasteurized bulk?...
A light dusting of diatomaceous earth will help control your fly/gnat issues.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bearcreek]
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I've heard that. But I don't think that could be used to case a monotub. It would dry out the surface. Or am I thinking of the wrong DE?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Hahaha I hear u man. i feel the same as u, they're mushrooms, they will grow. People just push the right information to help better everyone. Less contamination means more mushrooms. So people try to spread info that helps everyone instead of just letting people do things the "wrong" way and having more of a chance of failure.
Another thing ive heard tc's say is that myc cant overtake contams, wich i swear isnt true either, ive had bunches of pf jars start out with contams before any myc grew, wait em out and they fully colonize. Only exception ive had to that is pint jars with brf. My homemade syringes sucked for a while, now im better. Had to chuck like twenty some jars a month ago orso. I dont read threads too much anymore, always same twelve people stroking eachothers egos,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Hahahaha  hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Hahahaha hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
That is true, Im not a social type either so I got that going for me,lol. Well heres another bk beauty, this was rgs, 2 1/2-3pts, cant remember. Little 14qt unmod.
 I should post it on cpd. And say rgs spawned to black kow. Lol wut?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
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Thanks, I was wondering about that product...never considered it was pre-pasteurized.
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I think we can call that a success.. I'll be trying it...
Bigsur is that 100% bk unpasturized out of the bag or brought to feild capacity?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
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Sick!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Violet]
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Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc?
Thanks in advance!
Violet, so cool your posting here! Big fan here, enjoyed your teks and threads, my last box was rgs wich was inspired by your rgs tek. But your question, I dont microwave anything, and as far as casing, I have tried some verm on top thinking it would help keep moisture. But it doesnt seem to work. I have everyrhing for a real casing but havent tried it yet.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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nube424 said:
Hahahaha hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
That is true, Im not a social type either so I got that going for me,lol. Well heres another bk beauty, this was rgs, 2 1/2-3pts, cant remember. Little 14qt unmod.
I should post it on cpd. And say rgs spawned to black kow. Lol wut?
Fuckin beautiful tub, Sur. You really are proving that this Black Kow stuff is a safe, cheap substrate.
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My apologies, reading the thread by the time I decided to type up my question I had gotten mixed up about who posted what.
I had thought the following post was yours for some reason.
I guess it's ttching I was asking!
Or anyone who has done it.
But I was definitely referring to your great-looking grows when I typed that.
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I'm using potting soil & my myc seems to love it. I bought this big bag of organic stuff from the depot for like $6 and it's full of composted nutrients the myc may be able to use. I prep it via Violet's casing prep tek: First I sift out the sticks & chucks through a fine mesh strainer & it comes out like espresso ground coffee.
I hydrate it past field capacity & microwave out the extra moisture. This is done 2x, 18-24 hours apart & the result is fluffy & well hydrated & any gnat eggs & mold spores which may have been riding along in the mix are dead.
This is 72 hours from spawning, 1:1, RGS & the prepped potting soil, pseudocased at spawning:
Then at eight days (last night):
IMO, potting soil is probably not the right choice for most, but it definitely works well.
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I think we can call that a success.. I'll be trying it...
Bigsur is that 100% bk unpasturized out of the bag or brought to feild capacity?
I dont add anything, straight out the bag.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Violet]
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My apologies, reading the thread by the time I decided to type up my question I had gotten mixed up about who posted what.
I had thought the following post was yours for some reason.
I guess it's ttching I was asking!
Or anyone who has done it.
But I was definitely referring to your great-looking grows when I typed that.
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I'm using potting soil & my myc seems to love it. I bought this big bag of organic stuff from the depot for like $6 and it's full of composted nutrients the myc may be able to use. I prep it via Violet's casing prep tek: First I sift out the sticks & chucks through a fine mesh strainer & it comes out like espresso ground coffee.
I hydrate it past field capacity & microwave out the extra moisture. This is done 2x, 18-24 hours apart & the result is fluffy & well hydrated & any gnat eggs & mold spores which may have been riding along in the mix are dead.
This is 72 hours from spawning, 1:1, RGS & the prepped potting soil, pseudocased at spawning:
Then at eight days (last night):
IMO, potting soil is probably not the right choice for most, but it definitely works well.
Im glad the thread caught your attention. I didnt think you were still around. Great to hear from ya, Thanks for stopping by
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Violet]
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Violet said:
Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc?
Thanks in advance!
I'm a big fan. Using a low power setting and short intervals it's relatively easy to get the moisture content just right. The texture on the finished product is really nice and it does well both as a casing & as substrate. I do recommend using a paper towel underneath & a gallon freezer bag over the top of the container during the microwave run as they can boil over suddenly sometimes.
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Violet said:
Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc?
Thanks in advance!
I'm a big fan. Using a low power setting and short intervals it's relatively easy to get the moisture content just right. The texture on the finished product is really nice and it does well both as a casing & as substrate. I do recommend using a paper towel underneath & a gallon freezer bag over the top of the container during the microwave run as they can boil over suddenly sometimes.
U microwave black kow? And use it as a casing?
And op stated that he doesn't prep the black kow at all. Just uses it straight out of the bag.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25418661 - 08/28/18 08:06 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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No. Violet was asking about my use of her potting soil casing tek, mistook me for the OP here.
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Oh gotcha. Top layers of coir work pretty well in my experience too.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25425668 - 08/31/18 07:51 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well heres the latest from the coop,
   My shitty spawn caught up with me, lol
But when one dies, one is birthed, Think im going back to my b+ masters, ive been trying to isolate big fruits, all my isolates turn out like my last few tubs. Even my clones havent produced big ones yet. Im excited i have five new varieties on agar, now i can isolate and document shit the right way.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25427753 - 09/01/18 04:14 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's wrong with the first tub? It never colonized? I thought those were right after u spawned it.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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What's wrong with the first tub? It never colonized? I thought those were right after u spawned it.
First one was 7pts wet wbs, I had like twenty jars that were overhydrated you could say,lol. They colonized but a few were uncolonized in the middle. So i spawned them anyway. That tub had mean green growing. I dont keep em, I just go bury them outside. I prepped like 60-70 jars a couple weeks ago, and like twenty of them turned out wet, and i think ive chucked a handful too. Lessons learned, one thing, I was filling my jars too full wich is no bueno! But i think i have a wbs tek that works for me now! And I cant find bk locally at any store, I might have to order it. See what happens.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Look for the brand I used. Home Depot or lowes should have it. "Bovung" dehydrated manure + humus. It looks and feels the same as black kow. Or just give in and go get some coir.
And yea, if ur spawns got that much bacteria it won't colonize. Worth a try tho lol. But yea, fill them less, and even under cook them a little. I undercook my wbs and load it still a little damp. After the pc it's perfect tho.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25431235 - 09/02/18 05:58 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's a nice canopy for scooping shit out of a bag. 
Straight up. Nice.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
#25431248 - 09/02/18 06:00 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hell yea bigsurmoon!
Killing it with the Black Kow!
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Finally found black kow, in my area Lowes carry’s it for 5.64 a bag
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bakenast]
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Finally found black kow, in my area Lowes carry’s it for 5.64 a bag
Lucky, i tried lowes yesterday, couldnt find it. I dont think its common around my parts. But theres always amazon! Thanks everybody, Im happy to have a place here, wallowing in my shit, thread,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25432390 - 09/03/18 07:58 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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U should start the "growing shrooms for dummies" thread. (Not saying ur a dummy lol)
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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U should start the "growing shrooms for dummies" thread. (Not saying ur a dummy lol)
Haha, i thought the same thing, a tek. Brf to black kow, its probably is as easy as it gets. To me the biggest advantage of bk is that if you want to spawn something you can. I dont have a flow of spawn, i do shit when i can, so bk gives me the freedom to spawn a little, alot, dont matter cause its all ready to go! To me thats the best part of it. Im going back to coir for a bit, i got 5 bricks to burn threw. Im trying some other manure brands, but first two ive tried are junk i think. Spawned 4qts wbs to my last bk today, unmoded 30ish qt tub. Nice CLEAN spawn,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
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Revolutionary
You really thinks so? Im a terrible writer,grammer, etc, Id love to write a tek, but i think someone else could do better. I feel like I cant take credit for any of it, except that I read a lot, and im willing to try anything maybe,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25432831 - 09/03/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, it’s cheap, straightforward and produces nice consistent results. Write it up...this thread is your rough draft!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
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Yeah, it’s cheap, straightforward and produces nice consistent results. Write it up...this thread is your rough draft!
I'm with Mycolorado for sure..! BK is a solid approach to substrate because all you need to do is dump it out of a bag into a tub and voila!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Psicomb]
#25435436 - 09/04/18 04:34 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im sooooo pissed, I cant get no more bk, apparently i live in an area where, lowes,hd,and tv, and ace dont carry it locally. So the wally world by me gets a stock in summer and thats it. I love the midwest, but you fuckers in the south, Im jealous, but you guys can have the heat, I love 4 seasons. Anyhow, my threads dead till spring. Guess its back to coir, ugghh,lol, so.hard.to.prepare! Jk, but imhno so far bk is the best substrate there is.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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That's crazy u can't find it. I don't live in the south, I'm in the NE and we still got it around. I'd ship a bag to u but it would be an arm and a leg lol
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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That's crazy u can't find it. I don't live in the south, I'm in the NE and we still got it around. I'd ship a bag to u but it would be an arm and a leg lol
Thanks,lol, I found a site that ships for three something a bag, but freight shipping? Yeah not happening. Coirs cheap, this timberline brand manure might work. For me its too wet,and sandy, but so far so good.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25436746 - 09/05/18 05:07 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea just keep tryin man. I'm sure there's other brands that might even be better than bk, we just haven't found it yet
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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yea just keep tryin man. I'm sure there's other brands that might even be better than bk, we just haven't found it yet
Yeah, just checked on the boxes, and the new shit is colonizing well, already some surface myc, i think its 48hr old orso. Way browner than the bk, but seems ok. Im gonna check out some garden centers. I have to go out of town for hopefully only one night, i have 4 shoeboxes starting to pin, the most critical time and i wont be around, arrggh! But i will be on the bk hunt! Fingers crossed!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25437271 - 09/05/18 11:04 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im back in the game peeps!!! 4hrs south, never been so excited to play with shit! Fuckin 1$ A BAG!!!!. Im gonna fucking buy the whole pallet!
  FUCK YEAH!!!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon] 2
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 awesome score..! never seen someone so dedicated to load their car up with turds.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Psicomb]
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awesome score..! never seen someone so dedicated to load their car up with turds.
Im gonna get at least ten bags, that should get me threw till next spring. A dollar for fifty lbs of ready sub. It dont get better, I think im gonna do a coir vs bk thread soon. If bk does as well or better than im going on bk all day campaign!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25437345 - 09/05/18 11:44 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bucket and his black kow!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25437539 - 09/05/18 01:17 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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You had everyone in suspense.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Im a terrible writer,grammer, etc, Id love to write a tek, but i think someone else could do better. I feel like I cant take credit for any of it, except that I read a lot, and im willing to try anything maybe,lol.
Yeah, send me your tek and I'll proofread it and edit it, that paragraph physically hurt me.
You've aroused my curiosity BigSurMoon, I'ma check if theres some cow manure at my local garden stores that could be wrangled. You say theres no prep? Not even bucket tek or hydration?
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Im a terrible writer,grammer, etc, Id love to write a tek, but i think someone else could do better. I feel like I cant take credit for any of it, except that I read a lot, and im willing to try anything maybe,lol.
Yeah, send me your tek and I'll proofread it and edit it, that paragraph physically hurt me.
You've aroused my curiosity BigSurMoon, I'ma check if theres some cow manure at my local garden stores that could be wrangled. You say theres no prep? Not even bucket tek or hydration?
None, i promise, just grab it out of the bag. It does like to dry out daily so misting is required, imo. Cause i think i tend have my tubs a little on the wet side. I here so many people say they dont mist threw first flush. Ive never been able to pull that off, even with coir. So I would say the one downside of bk is that you have to check on your tubs at least once a day. You probably could add some verm or water to it, but i wont cause i think thats two more vectors of contamination. Im probably wrong, but i wont fuck with it. As far as a tek, i think it would be best to add links to other teks in the bbk tek, and i honestly dont know how to do shit but post some pics. I will someday. Thanks for all the support everyone this has been so fun!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Well I finally got around to clicking on this thread and I have to say I'm compelled. I have some P Cyan spawn coming up so it's especially interesting. After looking around, I found that a Lowes about 25 miles away is the only store in my state that sells BK. 50lb for $5.17. Gonna pick up 200 lbs tomorrow.
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Well I finally got around to clicking on this thread and I have to say I'm compelled. I have some P Cyan spawn coming up so it's especially interesting. After looking around, I found that a Lowes about 25 miles away is the only store in my state that sells BK. 50lb for $5.17. Gonna pick up 200 lbs tomorrow.
I have some pans on it. It's not really doing much.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
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Well I finally got around to clicking on this thread and I have to say I'm compelled. I have some P Cyan spawn coming up so it's especially interesting. After looking around, I found that a Lowes about 25 miles away is the only store in my state that sells BK. 50lb for $5.17. Gonna pick up 200 lbs tomorrow.
I have some pans on it. It's not really doing much.
What do you mean? Slow colonization? Just curious, please keep us updated.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Just slow colonization. I don't have much grain in it so that could be it. I threw the
shoebox outside so it's full on open air.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
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Just slow colonization. I don't have much grain in it so that could be it. I threw the
shoebox outside so it's full on open air.
Right on, ive noticed rreally rhizo colonization on mine. Speed, i havent really paid attention to. I need to keep better notes,lol. Hope it works for ya!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
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I'll have 2 quarts for a 1:1 shoebox in 2 weeks or so hopefully. I'm a week in on a LC noc. Good luck Asura.
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Im really excited to try this shit
My spawn jars are finishing up...should be ready to go by the beginning of next week. I haven't sourced BK yet so hopefully i can find it. Still have a ton of coir but i really wanna give it a try.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
#25439578 - 09/06/18 09:04 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Online prices are crazy. The guy at Lowe's said they had to special-order it because people kept asking for it. Must be a lot of Shroomerites in my neck of the woods. Headed there now for 200 pounds for 25 bucks.
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Little update, nothing exciting. these sucked imo.
 this is the timberline bag shit,seems ok
 my 30 qt unmod, humming along nicely.
And heres a first for me, never had one go green all over the top at the end of the flush. It was fine, most of the fruits looked healthy, probably try some tea with em.
All i got fer now.  
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25446522 - 09/09/18 01:43 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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It happens. Usually my fruits don't like to stand up on there own very well with a trich outbresk. Atlesst in tubs where the mycelia network out grew the trich.
Probably what ur seeing too id imagine
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
#25446829 - 09/09/18 06:53 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have noticed the bk is susceptible to trich. But it does make things easy when u can just dump it out of the bag and mix with ur spawn. And from what I've seen, even tho it's a lot more sense than coir, it still colonizes perfectly fine. I'd suggest using a liner with it tho cuz it does shink pretty fast.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25446958 - 09/09/18 07:35 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have noticed the bk is susceptible to trich. But it does make things easy when u can just dump it out of the bag and mix with ur spawn. And from what I've seen, even tho it's a lot more sense than coir, it still colonizes perfectly fine. I'd suggest using a liner with it tho cuz it does shink pretty fast.
I think my issues lately is cause of my wbs prep. It does shrink like a bastard. And it is hard to pull multiple flushes. Might have found the limitations. I busted open a new bag and it was super wet, like clumpy, and probably twice at wet as past bags. I used it as is, its a test to see if hydrating makes any difference. We shall see. In a few days im gonna do some side by side of different varieties, one coir, one bk
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25450045 - 09/10/18 03:21 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Black kow with no prep. Mixed spawn, f+ and gt. Just threw in what I had colonized     
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25451476 - 09/11/18 04:02 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like an attic grow,lol, bet it stays nice an human in there.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25451510 - 09/11/18 04:27 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea I have a huge crawl space inside my walk in closet. It's pretty dusty in there, but they seem to like the warmer air in there. Very limited on space right now.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Yea I have a huge crawl space inside my walk in closet. It's pretty dusty in there, but they seem to like the warmer air in there. Very limited on space right now.
Im with ya on the space thing. Check out this timberline compost,   ive only been growing for few months orso, but ive never had a tub grow/colonize this heavy
And my 30ish unmod, starting to pin, doesnt excite me yet 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Nice man, looks like it's about to pin any moment lol
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Nice man, looks like it's about to pin any moment lol
Its crazy looking, its straight out the bag timberline organic compost/manure.
I was thinking of casing it, whatcha think?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25454558 - 09/12/18 10:34 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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A frosting layer is working well on mine. Go for it. I can't see it hurting.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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A frosting layer is working well on mine. Go for it. I can't see it hurting.
Shits climbing the walls, just got home,gonna cleanup and go check on em
 30qt unmod might have a decent pinset after all.
This timberline tub though, just crazy growth, i put some coir on top. I spawnded 12 1/2pt brf to coir trays yesterday, pe,purple mystic,cambodian,and brazil. I went with brf cause my wbs prep has been so-so lately. Im gonna go back to sbj's wbs prep, it worked, then i had bright ideas!,lol.
Oops wrong pic, heres box before casing
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25456452 - 09/13/18 12:34 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol your posts remind me of tetris, with the image blocks errywhere
those are some gorgeous looking tubs, bursting with potential
Theres serious power in this method.
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This is a first for me. Tub full o' tiny shrooms. It was gt and f+ spawn mixed together with bovung manure.
   
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25457962 - 09/13/18 05:34 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get nothing but mini-fruits first flush when I do shoeboxes...and they are potent!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
#25458095 - 09/13/18 06:32 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get nothing but mini-fruits first flush when I do shoeboxes...and they are potent!
My best canopies were tinys, seemed like the more bare boxes threw bigger fruits, at least with my b+. Ive been trying to hone in on a large fruit culture but it keeps eluding me. Im working on transfers from some outdoor giants. But outdoor prints are messy, its crazy what shows up on a streak plate!lol.
Nube, I cannot find bovung boss! Im kinda diggin this timberline manure, u should check it out.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Oh, I saw this yesterday. Dude, uses a screen over a tub to break up his soil. I've noticed
the black kow can get chunky.
Go to 2:50.
I guess the board doesn't properly format youtube links with the time in the url.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
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Oh, I saw this yesterday. Dude, uses a screen over a tub to break up his soil. I've noticed
the black kow can get chunky.
Go to 2:50.
I guess the board doesn't properly format youtube links with the time in the url.
Thats cool, im gonna defintely try that, i have those screen boxes made already,lol. I used em for drying grains.
Thanks man
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25458929 - 09/14/18 04:09 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a perfect screen for sifting too and yea it can be chunky.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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I have a perfect screen for sifting too and yea it can be chunky.
Good morning nube, happy fryday!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25458948 - 09/14/18 04:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn that's fuckin sweet! happy Friday bigsurmoon we wake up for work at the same time haha
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25458949 - 09/14/18 04:32 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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What variety u got man? Is it all the same var. in this thread?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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What variety u got man? Is it all the same var. in this thread?
Yeah you construction?
Everything is b+ isolates,clones. I got some new varieties in the works. Im thinking about doing some print giveaways here if anyone wants any. O just want feedback on how my prints are, quality wise. I did a giveaway and no one told me how the prints were, just left ratings.
So if anyone is willing to leave feedback on the quality of my b+ prints, pm me.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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People would definitely want some if u do a giveaway.
Not construction tho, I deliver seafood
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Turned out better than i thought it would.
 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25460234 - 09/14/18 04:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gorgeous
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: cronicr]
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Gorgeous
Thanks cron! Honored to have you here!,or stop by whatever, means a lot!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25460315 - 09/14/18 05:12 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great work my friend
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: cronicr]
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Nice work man. Good on you for trying new things. Keeping it very very simple 
Can’t find BK where I am but i’m inspired to try it with different brands of poo.
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I bought some Black Kow last year from a small garden shop and it was a putrid grey wet clay that REEKED of bacteria, I mean really bad.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: sandman420]
#25461216 - 09/15/18 12:11 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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A breakthrough method!
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: sandman420]
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I bought some Black Kow last year from a small garden shop and it was a putrid grey wet clay that REEKED of bacteria, I mean really bad.
yours probly had a hole in the bag and was sitting in the rain all year. And other brands work. I use bovung, which has nute levels 1:1:1 instead of .5.5.5
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25461633 - 09/15/18 08:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Added this thread to My favorite threads and teks. Good work.
I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but mixing black kow into the standard bucket tek -at the 45min. stir point- will maintain field capacity, fluff up the black kow mix, add nutrition to the substrate and provide some level of pseudo pasteurization.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: grainbrain] 1
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I have a second flush of KSSS coming in a MONTH later. I threw the sub outside and covered it
in black kow. It's been raining a lot. The fruits look like they will be a combination of
normal and UFO-style. Will post pics soon.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: grainbrain]
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Added this thread to My favorite threads and teks. Good work.
I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but mixing black kow into the standard bucket tek -at the 45min. stir point- will maintain field capacity, fluff up the black kow mix, add nutrition to the substrate and provide some level of pseudo pasteurization.
Yes I think it would work great cut with coco.
And my tiny pin set went from tiny to a canopy. And u can see what an attic grow will get u. I call this strain spidey sense
  
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25489655 - 09/26/18 04:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Black kow, b+ isolate, cased w/peat,verm,lime.
Heres my bk vs coir, same isolate, same 1qtspawn/2qt sub.
4days after spawn
6 days after spawn, cased this morning.
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#25489669 - 09/26/18 04:42 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The growth looks awesome In all the tubs. Nice work
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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The growth looks awesome In all the tubs. Nice work
Thanks, i think ive honed in on nice genetics, my last few boxes ive done have been from an lc/isolate. I think she's a keeper, only took a few months to get to. I do enjoy agar work though,
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25489934 - 09/26/18 07:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I spawned a pan cyan shoebox 2 days ago that I didn't have high hopes for because my jars were slightly bacterial. To my surprise it's kicking ass and myc looks great. If it holds up I'll post some pics in the next couple days.
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I spawned a pan cyan shoebox 2 days ago that I didn't have high hopes for because my jars were slightly bacterial. To my surprise it's kicking ass and myc looks great. If it holds up I'll post some pics in the next couple days.
Right on, show that shit,lol. Id love to do pans, but i have to chill out a little, the old lady says i spend too much time on shit. Lol, happy wife, happy life!?
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25492130 - 09/27/18 04:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just gotta be more productive in less time
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Just gotta be more productive in less time
One of the reasons i love black kow, now if there was just ready spawn in a bag, I got carried away from day one, just have to come back to reality, momma's like, what do you need all those for? My response was, i dont, i just love growing em, i got the sideways stare, we comprimised,lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25492148 - 09/27/18 05:00 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol yea I think a lot of us go thru that. We got some good ladies
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Just gotta be more productive in less time
One of the reasons i love black kow, now if there was just ready spawn in a bag, I got carried away from day one, just have to come back to reality, momma's like, what do you need all those for? My response was, i dont, i just love growing em, i got the sideways stare, we comprimised,lol.
I get the sideways stare all the time. I expand until they come more frequently coupled with limited verbal cues. Then everything goes out of sight for a while. Repeat cycle.
When I'm on the downswing it's difficult not to start conversations like, "Honey I'm so stoked about this culture I'm working on right now".
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Hahahaha is she as clueless as my girl? I've been tryin to teach my girl for 3 years now and she refuses to take it seriously lol
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25492165 - 09/27/18 05:21 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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She just doesn't find it interesting enough to care. She'll humor me when I'm excited about something science or myco related but really doesn't give a shit. Good girl though, just different interests.
Would be nice to have a chick that could prep some grain for me while I'm working late but...
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Lol that what Im sayin. But like u said, my girl isn't interested enough to care either.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Lol that what Im sayin. But like u said, my girl isn't interested enough to care either.
Yeah mine looks at it like any other hobby, and im the type to dive in head first, so its just like the truck,fishing,music, just more shit i waste time and money on, her biggest bitch is all the stuff i dont clean and all the shit lying around. The best is my ten bag stack of black kow, she's like,"are you fucking serious?" Pretty confident that was her exact words. She gets it though, just have to make sure my chores are done before i can go out and play,lol been 18years together, shes a great women, but still a women.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25493683 - 09/27/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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How many women is she? Lol, I've got to get some darkness bovine and try this myself
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Caps McGee]
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Caps that P Cyan print is perfect for it. Mine took off like mad on this stuff.
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How many women is she? Lol, I've got to get some darkness bovine and try this myself
Lol, woman
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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Caps that P Cyan print is perfect for it. Mine took off like mad on this stuff.
Really...
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How many women is she? Lol, I've got to get some darkness bovine and try this myself
Lol, woman
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Caps that P Cyan print is perfect for it. Mine took off like mad on this stuff.
Mine did, too. But it didn't go anywhere. Just overlayed like crazy. Growing out pan cyans is
easy. Fruiting it in a meaningful way is not.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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I remember when I started people said you couldn't use black kow. It has to be field aged manure or coir nothing else will work. But Appearantly not. I was going to black kow but I never made it to the store so I just used old lawn clippings.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Crispy224]
#25493865 - 09/27/18 06:49 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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This stuff rules for when you want to throw a sub outdoors. I have 5 bags or so in the garage.
I'm sold on this stuff. And after a good rain it smells like an Exxon toilet.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Crispy224]
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I remember when I started people said you couldn't use black kow. It has to be field aged manure or coir nothing else will work. But Appearantly not. I was going to black kow but I never made it to the store so I just used old lawn clippings.
The timberline manure/compost worked too. After i read blueluo's thread i said i had to try that. Took me a while to find, but totally worth it imo, the "freedom to spawn", i say (to myself, lol), its the slogan. I also like "straight outta the bag", reminds me of the good old days,
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Asura]
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Caps that P Cyan print is perfect for it. Mine took off like mad on this stuff.
Mine did, too. But it didn't go anywhere. Just overlayed like crazy. Growing out pan cyans is
easy. Fruiting it in a meaningful way is not.
I have my fingers crossed. I've never cultivated pans before. I have 2 shoeboxes a couple days apart experimenting with slightly different conditions.
The 1st box I came out to check on it after 2 days and had one of those "Holy Shit" moments. It fucking burned through the sub like crazy.
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My first weiners on bk, 1pt brf.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
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When i first started fruiting in trays. I went crazy. Everything became a tray.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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Lol that's how I am walking thru the grocery store. Especially the one near my house, they have a while "ball" section. Replacement lids and plastic lids and everything, right at the store. And tons of cool Tupperware lol
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Ahhhh. The joys of Tupperware. Lol.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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Yesum u still gearing up for things or did I miss it? I remember a month ago u had tons of stuff going
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Yeah i have a lot of stuff going on atm. I did mess up back when i first started back up. I basically under sterilized a bunch of rye but were back up to speed again. I have Rustywhyte starting to fruit. Along with psilos/Azures Pesa-PE, and mazapatec, and menace. Im just fruiting in shoeboxes for the time being. Almost everything I'm running is ms genetics. So I'm kinda looking for some clones from the ms boxes. I should have pics here really soon. Like with in a weeks time frame i should think.
This guy is what I've been kinda working on myself. A pigmentless peu clone. It came from a fruiting plate tho so who knows how well it's gonna perform. We shall see
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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Cool man. I got some rw and ape colonizing right now. Gonna g2g so I can have a case of each so I can do 2 monos of each.
I under sterilized a whole case of grain when I got back from a break too 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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That's another reason I'm in shoe boxes still. Didn't have enough colonized quart jars of the same var for tubs. 
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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That's a easy problem to fix tho. Even if ur low on spawn u can g2g some b4 u spawn. But the time u chuck the shoe boxes ill be tripping over monos
Shoe boxes are cool tho. I just haven't done one yet. I used to use cake pans with the snap on lids. I guess that's like a shoe box.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
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Yeah exactly the dame thing almost. I was never a big fan of them either. For me they required a little more checking on with my substrate drying out. But I guess I've gotten a little better or the environments different here in my new place because I only sprayed these once when I first raised the fae and that's been it.
I still haven't sourced black kow yet locally
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
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Ahhhh. The joys of Tupperware. Lol.
Yeah i have a theory that the round ones do better, some of the best flushes ive seen were in round containers. I did trays with the new varieties so i could print and clone them right away.
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My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW
I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1
Deliberately asleep, always.
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Yesum
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25508705 - 10/03/18 10:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Huh i wonder why ya think. ?
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Caps McGee
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Yesum]
#25508759 - 10/03/18 10:23 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even drying...
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Yesum
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Registered: 11/05/12
Posts: 13,124
Loc: Central Part of Town
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Caps McGee]
#25509145 - 10/03/18 12:34 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right. True. Maybe it was by chance the round ones performed better.
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