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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25414034 - 08/26/18 07:57 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Yea the flies definitely hitched a ride cuz it wasn't pasteurized. Not many tho. I've only seen 1 in this tub. Which I don't think is too bad for not cooking it at all. Maybe there's an insecticide that could come in handy for unpasteurized bulk?...
They suck, I got tons of em in my 30qt unmod tub, and now i got a spot that looks suspect. Havent lost a tub before first flush yet, so we will see. Ill get pics up soon, but i got a rgs box starting to pin, looks nice. I might try more rgs, ive read it doesnt do well in bulk, but ive also read that bk doesnt work, lol
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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nube424


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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25414627 - 08/26/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have u ever researched fermented substrates? It's a way to sterilize/pasteurize grains or bulk. Takes time, but no work or heat.
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25414860 - 08/26/18 03:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Have u ever researched fermented substrates? It's a way to sterilize/pasteurize grains or bulk. Takes time, but no work or heat.
Sounds interesting, i will def look that up. Im bummed, I got to wally world to late, all the bk is gone for the season. I hate how they move next seasons shit in so early. I grabbed some other organic compost/manure that specs same .5-.5-.5. If this stuff works out of the bag i will be amazed. I got, pe,purple mystic,brazil,maz,and cambodia, streaked some plates, and did some brf. Cant wait to try some pe, everybody says its pretty potent, we shall see
Your contamed tub sure looked nice, i forgot to ask if that is a 60 something qt tub
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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nube424


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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25416103 - 08/27/18 05:01 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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My contaminated tub? The one I posted yesterday isn't contaminated. It was a "small" Home Depot cardboard box lined with plastic. 6 quarts of bacterial spawn and about 6 qts of black kow. And if they moved it from Walmart, I'll bet the depot or lowes has it.
And yea basically fermented substrates is exactly like it sounds. Letting it ferment to kill off bad bacteria while keeping the the good bacteria. It was very interesting stuff to read.
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25416584 - 08/27/18 10:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: My contaminated tub? The one I posted yesterday isn't contaminated. It was a "small" Home Depot cardboard box lined with plastic. 6 quarts of bacterial spawn and about 6 qts of black kow. And if they moved it from Walmart, I'll bet the depot or lowes has it.
And yea basically fermented substrates is exactly like it sounds. Letting it ferment to kill off bad bacteria while keeping the the good bacteria. It was very interesting stuff to read.
I meant spawn, I spawned some shitty stuff, and a couple that werent even fully colonized, too wet, and all of them seem to be doing fine. Im baffled cause everything ive read stresses how clean your spawn must be, and must do proper pasterization on sub, and all these posts about failures due to spawn or sub. I must be really lucky i guess. Seriously, I would get laughed off this site if everyone could see me work, and my work areas.
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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nube424


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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25416612 - 08/27/18 11:01 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hahaha I hear u man. i feel the same as u, they're mushrooms, they will grow. People just push the right information to help better everyone. Less contamination means more mushrooms. So people try to spread info that helps everyone instead of just letting people do things the "wrong" way and having more of a chance of failure.
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25416617 - 08/27/18 11:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Yea the flies definitely hitched a ride cuz it wasn't pasteurized. Not many tho. I've only seen 1 in this tub. Which I don't think is too bad for not cooking it at all. Maybe there's an insecticide that could come in handy for unpasteurized bulk?...
A light dusting of diatomaceous earth will help control your fly/gnat issues.
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nube424


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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: bearcreek]
#25416625 - 08/27/18 11:09 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've heard that. But I don't think that could be used to case a monotub. It would dry out the surface. Or am I thinking of the wrong DE?
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25416634 - 08/27/18 11:19 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Hahaha I hear u man. i feel the same as u, they're mushrooms, they will grow. People just push the right information to help better everyone. Less contamination means more mushrooms. So people try to spread info that helps everyone instead of just letting people do things the "wrong" way and having more of a chance of failure.
Another thing ive heard tc's say is that myc cant overtake contams, wich i swear isnt true either, ive had bunches of pf jars start out with contams before any myc grew, wait em out and they fully colonize. Only exception ive had to that is pint jars with brf. My homemade syringes sucked for a while, now im better. Had to chuck like twenty some jars a month ago orso. I dont read threads too much anymore, always same twelve people stroking eachothers egos,lol.
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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nube424


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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25416995 - 08/27/18 02:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hahahaha hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: nube424]
#25417086 - 08/27/18 03:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Hahahaha hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
That is true, Im not a social type either so I got that going for me,lol. Well heres another bk beauty, this was rgs, 2 1/2-3pts, cant remember. Little 14qt unmod.
I should post it on cpd. And say rgs spawned to black kow. Lol wut?
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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Mycolorado
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25417095 - 08/27/18 03:33 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sick!
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Spore-hunter
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
#25417148 - 08/27/18 04:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks, I was wondering about that product...never considered it was pre-pasteurized.
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filthyknees
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I think we can call that a success.. I'll be trying it...
Bigsur is that 100% bk unpasturized out of the bag or brought to feild capacity?
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Mycolorado]
#25417201 - 08/27/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Sick!
thanks!
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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Violet



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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25417614 - 08/27/18 07:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc? Thanks in advance!
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BigSurMoon
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: Violet]
#25417723 - 08/27/18 08:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Violet said: Hi OP, good looking grows!
A small question, how might you describe your experience with microwaving your casing etc? Thanks in advance!
Violet, so cool your posting here! Big fan here, enjoyed your teks and threads, my last box was rgs wich was inspired by your rgs tek. But your question, I dont microwave anything, and as far as casing, I have tried some verm on top thinking it would help keep moisture. But it doesnt seem to work. I have everyrhing for a real casing but havent tried it yet. Thanks for stopping Violet!
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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Psicomb
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Re: Black kow experiment [Re: BigSurMoon]
#25418040 - 08/27/18 09:45 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said:
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nube424 said: Hahahaha hey whatever style works for u. We're all still just growing fungi.
That is true, Im not a social type either so I got that going for me,lol. Well heres another bk beauty, this was rgs, 2 1/2-3pts, cant remember. Little 14qt unmod.
I should post it on cpd. And say rgs spawned to black kow. Lol wut?
Fuckin beautiful tub, Sur. You really are proving that this Black Kow stuff is a safe, cheap substrate.
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Violet



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My apologies, reading the thread by the time I decided to type up my question I had gotten mixed up about who posted what.
I had thought the following post was yours for some reason. I guess it's ttching I was asking! Or anyone who has done it.
But I was definitely referring to your great-looking grows when I typed that.
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ttching8475 said: I'm using potting soil & my myc seems to love it. I bought this big bag of organic stuff from the depot for like $6 and it's full of composted nutrients the myc may be able to use. I prep it via Violet's casing prep tek: First I sift out the sticks & chucks through a fine mesh strainer & it comes out like espresso ground coffee.

I hydrate it past field capacity & microwave out the extra moisture. This is done 2x, 18-24 hours apart & the result is fluffy & well hydrated & any gnat eggs & mold spores which may have been riding along in the mix are dead.
This is 72 hours from spawning, 1:1, RGS & the prepped potting soil, pseudocased at spawning:

Then at eight days (last night):

IMO, potting soil is probably not the right choice for most, but it definitely works well.
-------------------- Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it! PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers The simplest, quickest, safest tek! For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers! • Violet's Teks and Posts •
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BigSurMoon
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filthyknees said: I think we can call that a success.. I'll be trying it...
Bigsur is that 100% bk unpasturized out of the bag or brought to feild capacity?
I dont add anything, straight out the bag.
-------------------- My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes. DISCOVER BLACK KOW I swear that "black kow experiment" thread is gonna get it. It's tempting me to adress it. Sounds both pornografic and racist... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1 Deliberately asleep, always.
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