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Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers
    #25293435 - 06/26/18 05:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers

The SITSA Act would turn the attorney general into the chief arbiter of what substances Americans can buy, sell, and put in their bodies.





If you think the Department of Justice has more than enough tools to wage the war on drugs, a bill passed by the House would create a fast-track scheduling system that could lead to the criminalization of kratom, nootropics, and pretty much anything that gives you a buzz and isn't already illegal.

The House of Representatives voted on Friday to create a new schedule of banned drugs under the Controlled Substances Act, called "Schedule A," and to give Attorney General Jeff Sessions broad new powers to criminalize the manufacturing, importation, and sale of substances that are currently unregulated, but not illegal. The bill is now headed to the Senate, where co-sponsors Dianne Feinstein (D–Calif.) and Chuck Grassley (R–Iowa) will likely have little problem whipping votes.

The Stop the Importation and Trafficking of Synthetic Analogs Act, or SITSA, is intended to crack down on drugs that closely resemble currently banned or regulated substances in either their chemical structure or intended effects. SITSA would also empower the attorney general (A.G.) to add drugs to this new schedule with few checks from other branches of government.

As its name implies, SITSA is a response to the increased importation of fentanyl analogs—drugs based on the potent opioid fentanyl and that work similarly in the body, but are slightly different at a formulaic level—which have made their way into the U.S. heroin supply and driven overdose death rates to an all-time high.

The bill also marks the biggest federal effort yet to put the analog genie back in its Chinese bottle.

For more than a decade now, legislators, regulators, and law enforcement have been overwhelmed by the endless stream of analog drugs exported to the U.S. by overseas chemical manufacturers. These compounds are very similar to drugs that Congress has already banned or the prescription drugs the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) already regulates: Synthetic cannabinoids are designed to work like marijuana; cathinones are supposed to mimic both illicit and prescription amphetamines; 2cb imbues euphoric effects similar to MDMA; and SARMs work kind of like testosterone.

The Drug Enforcement Administration has long bemoaned the fact that clandestine chemists can create these novel drugs faster than D.C. can ban them. The scheduling process is complicated, as it should be when the government makes things illegal: The DEA has to identify an analog's chemical structure and the scheduled or regulated drug to which it's most similar, then seek input from experts at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), then publish a scheduling notice in the Federal Register and review public comments. (Democracy can be such a drag!)

Prosecuting drugs that have not gone through this process of analysis and scheduling, meanwhile, requires overcoming what Sessions recently called "cumbersome evidentiary hurdles," such as chemistry experts who challenge the government's claims and defendants who say they believed they were importing and selling "potpourri" and "bath salts." (These hurdles are also known as "due process.")

While Department of Justice (DOJ) complaints about analogs aren't new, the rise of fentanyl analogs have inspired Congress to act more aggressively and clumsily than usual. The Senate version of SITSA introduced by Feinstein and Grassley gives the attorney general unilateral and unchecked power to add a substance to Schedule A. It contains no congressional review provision and vests no authority in the Department of Health and Human Services to challenge the DOJ's scheduling decision.

When SITSA came up for a vote in the House, the House Liberty Caucus released a statement condemning the decision to "cede more of Congress's legislative authority to the Attorney General and grant the AG more power to fight the war on drugs, which has eroded federalism, eviscerated numerous individual rights, entrenched severe discrimination in our criminal justice system, and failed to meaningfully limit the proliferation of illicit drugs."

Thanks to the advocacy of Rep. Justin Amash (R–Mich.) and others, provisions were added to the House version of SITSA that appear to constrain the attorney general—though they probably won't. "Even with the sponsor's amendment," says the Liberty Caucus's statement, "this bill allows the AG to schedule substances permanently without significant input or involvement by the Department of Health and Services."

More specifically, the Senate bill requires the Attorney General only to notify HHS of a scheduling decision and "take into consideration any comments submitted by the Secretary of HHS." The amended House bill requires that

if the Secretary [of HHS] has determined, based on relevant scientific studies and necessary data requested by the Secretary and gathered by the Attorney General, that a drug or other substance that has been temporarily placed in schedule A does not have sufficient potential for abuse to warrant control in any schedule, and so advises the Attorney General in writing, the Attorney General may not issue a permanent scheduling order and shall, within 30 days of receiving the Secretary's advice issue an order immediately terminating the temporary scheduling order.

The House bill also gives Congress 180 days to write and pass legislation reversing a temporary scheduling order, but says nothing about reversing a permanent scheduling order. Why the House would tie its own hands in a matter like this is mystifying.

The bigger issue here is that the data HHS needs in order to make a recommendation will come from the DOJ, which is not exactly an unbiased source. If an A.G. wants a drug to remain in Schedule A, the data DOJ shares with HHS will likely support that preference, just as the data DOJ prosecutors share with jurors supports their preference for conviction. What's more, there is almost no random-control-trial data for drugs that are not already well into the FDA pipeline. To get that data, researchers would not only have to raise money outside the pharmaceutical system (ask MAPS how hard that is and how long it takes), they'd also have to get the AG's permission to manufacture or study any substance that has been scheduled using emergency powers. As one might expect, SITSA gives the AG wide latitude in determining what drugs are permissible to manufacture and to study.

As the Liberty Caucus statement suggests, the HHS oversight provision in the House bill is toothless, and absent entirely from the Senate version.

In addition to creating a new class of Controlled Substances, both bills give the Justice Department unprecedented power to criminalize compounds that aren't regulated by the FDA or already a Controlled Substance. Here's a brief rundown of provisions common to both versions of SITSA:



-Allow the Attorney General to use emergency scheduling powers to place a substance in Schedule A for up to five years, whereas current emergency scheduling powers allow for a maximum ban length of two years. (The additional length of time matters because temporary scheduling is not subject to judicial review.)

-The bill's criteria for inclusion in Class A of the Controlled Substances Act is incredibly broad. It includes any substance that is not already scheduled and is chemically similar to any drug in classes I-V (schedule I drugs are illegal save for research that must be approved and supervised by the DEA; drugs in the remaining schedules can be prescribed); has "an actual or predicted" stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect similar to that of any drug in classes I-V. The methods for determining those similarities are pretty vague in both versions of the bill and will almost certainly be interpreted by the DOJ in a way that makes it easiest for them to do what they want.

-If a drug fits the above criteria, and the Attorney General believes that scheduling it under the CSA "will assist in preventing abuse or misuse of the drug or other substance" [itals mine], the A.G. has met all of the criteria necessary to schedule the drug.
SITSA establishes a statutory maximum of 10 years in prison for Schedule A offenders with no prior drug convictions, and 15 years if ingestion of the substance results in "serious bodily injury or death"; those maximums rise to 20 and 30 years if the offender has a prior felony drug conviction.

-Importers of Class A drugs will face statutory maximums of 20 years (30 years if they have a prior felony drug conviction), and a maximum of life in prison if consumption of the drug they imported results in serious bodily injury or death.

-Despite the use of "synthetic analog" in the bill title, the criteria for inclusion in Schedule A says only "drug or substance."



Fans of the herbal opioid remedy kratom have expressed concerns about SITSA, as have nootropic users and research chemical enthusiasts. The combined vagueness and broadness of this bill should worry all of them. While the immediate justification for the bill is fentanyl, the legislation is so much broader than that. Were coffee and booze not historically entrenched in our culture, this bill would absolutely allow the DOJ to add both caffeine (as a stimulant) and alcohol (as a sedative) to Schedule A of the Controlled Substances Act.

The race to develop drugs that can briefly exist in a legal grey area—not scheduled at the formulaic level, but similar to things that are—is a genuine problem. The cat-and-mouse game between the DOJ and clandestine chemists has led to a downward spiral in quality, safety, and predictability. Batches of spice and K2 that flooded drug stores and head shops in the early 2000s, for example, could be hit or miss; but the synthetic cannabinoids floating around the U.S. now that those early versions are illegal have caused mass hospitalizations.

More potent and deadly than any drug we've seen before, fentanyl analogs are easy to make, cheap to buy, discreetly packaged, and difficult to detect at U.S. ports of entry. While the libertarian response to this phenomenon would be to make safer opioids available to people who want them in conjunction with lifting federal regulations on medications like methadone, naloxone, and buprenorphine, Congress very seldom does the libertarian thing.

What will illicit chemical manufacturers do if SITSA passes? Will they stop exporting to the U.S.? Will they change their packaging and labeling strategies? What will the new race to the bottom of the chem barrel look like? These are questions Congress should be thinking about now. After all, legislators wrote this bill as a response to the crisis they helped create when they encouraged law enforcement and regulators to crack down on prescription pills without considering users might substitute heroin and fentanyl.

Several years ago, Britain passed a similar law banning what SITSA calls Schedule A drugs. The Royal Pharmaceutical Society's Pharmaceutical Journal reported last year that many users of what were once called "legal highs" in the U.K. have since switched to more historically illegal drugs. That substitution effect shouldn't surprise anyone: it explains why people who once crushed pills now shoot fentanyl. And we should expect to see it here if Congress empowers Sessions to add whatever drugs he wants to the Controlled Substances Act.


https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/20/congress-wants-to-give-jeff-sessions-unp




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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: openmind]
    #25293567 - 06/26/18 06:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Trump isn't very religious but Sessions is dangerously so.

As long as alcohol is sold, it's hard to justify banning new substances.  Lot's of these have more use and are less dangerous than ethanol.  An excuse to force belief systems down throats and put folks in debt and prison.

Theological politics end every society.  The beliefs of the people change.  We all suffer and no, Jesus doesn't really save.  It's a hope for sessions but not as much as a terrible excuse for awful behavior.

Might as well say Brainwashing saves, make America brainwashed again!


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: openmind] * 1
    #25294036 - 06/26/18 11:48 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

This nightmare will end in under 2 years.  Warren, hope she gets it.  In the meantime, we all suffer.  It is just a matter of how much damage this administration can do in the meantime.  How much can you persecute and rob a country in 4 years?

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Barnaby]
    #25294039 - 06/26/18 11:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

But a part of me wants it to all go to shit.  Some freedom in that and something to fight against.  Media is the best way, and if they try to block that more will be interesting how things turn out.  Patience is key.

Make the U.S. into a third world country and globalism.  Will be interesting how this time plays out.

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #25294332 - 06/27/18 06:53 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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This nightmare will end in under 2 years.  Warren, hope she gets it.  In the meantime, we all suffer.  It is just a matter of how much damage this administration can do in the meantime.  How much can you persecute and rob a country in 4 years?




We shall see.  While it would be terrible if it does happen, this administration getting reelected in 2020 is certainly possible and I dare say, at the current moment, probable.  Trump has an approval rating that has been slowly increasing; big things are on the horizon that, while they may not be the direct cause of this administration, can be spun to appear that way to an increasingly misinformed public.  2 years is a long time and we are already seeing the normalization actions that used to be toxic for politicians.  The flip-side is that 2 years is indeed a long time and there are a few roadblocks that can surely trip up this administration.

With regards to SITSA, the be est thing to do right now is contact your senator ASAP and through all means possible.  Frequency is key.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Mr. Bojangles]
    #25294667 - 06/27/18 10:26 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I want to have unprecedented powers, that sounds cool. Though I want both drug and war powers, not drug war powers.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25295410 - 06/27/18 04:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Religion is going to give liberals what they want.  Their concepts are not well.  Their concepts are toxic.  It's cosmic law.

I DO NOT want things to go to hell.  It could be bad for all.  It's cut losses as much as feasible.

I started in drugs worse than I finished.  Plants are a lot more basic.  I got in touch with a religion.  Somewhere between shamanism and tibetan shamanism.  A sprinkle of Jesus for sick humor.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: openmind]
    #25295706 - 06/27/18 07:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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...co-sponsors Dianne Feinstein (D–Calif.) and Chuck Grassley (R–Iowa)...






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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #25296377 - 06/28/18 05:58 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Fucking jeff sessions, like we dont already have a controlled substance act.

This is a super dangerous precedent for anything thats a research chemical and i hope it doesnt pass.

Blanket bans are the worst, obama did that shit too.

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Fractal420]
    #25296391 - 06/28/18 06:10 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

This shit passed the house like 2 to 1. Fuck this shit. Ugh. I just hope maybe the senate stops it. This is shitty for rc's' kratom, it basically gives sesssioms and whoever comes after a whole new fucking schedule 1. That is certainly not cool. I imagine after that anything the media reports will become illegal.

Like 150 voted against it, but 250 voted for it

Time to stop posting fun stories about substances you enjoy unless theyre already illegal.

Fuck. This!

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr2851/summary

It does not criminalize possession, but can def disrupt the market of any drug he wants to put on "schedule A". It is literally just adding a whole new schedule!! How bout just focus on the damn fentanyl. And not by criminalizing it. This motherfucker really wants to make drug users suffer. If hed only had a few joints and enjoyed them

This is really kind of a big deal. Fuck the fentanyl analogs. But he can add anything and its banned in 30 days.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Fractal420]
    #25296420 - 06/28/18 06:47 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Hard to win a rigged game.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Amanita86]
    #25296432 - 06/28/18 07:00 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Still please try! This is a renewed effort on the war on drugs for Real (under the guise of "we need to help people suffering from the opioid epidemic"). The drug war is so much older, so many more casualties, never been addressed. The CSA alone is like 60 years old now, and prohibition started way before that. Anyway, this will mean if you hook up some idiot with an rc and they have a bad reaction, you fucking are responsible for their actions.

If nothing bad happens, it actually only seems like its illegal for the vendor. This is all just more craziness when we need the drug war to end. Thats the FIRST thing that needs to happen to help the people suffering from the opioid crisis! Look at nordic countries with legal heroin, and no fentanyl overdose problem. This is not gonna even stop people from dying. They'll just switch to something more dangerous. Soon enough, jeff will take away all the legal psychedelics we have left, kratom, and people will be pushed onto some Krokodil shit. And he wants that, im sure you guys can tell. Even trump was talking about killing addicts. Forget LGBT, drug users have no fucking voice cause our tongues are illegal.

I just really hope in 2 years this bullshit will truly be gone along with sessions. One of the worst things is its not only conservatives supporting this bill. In fact, in the senate seems like 2 dems and 1 rep proposed it. Its like when obama wiped out the 2c's. Makes me really feel like there are no heroes. But there are many sites up saying "tell your congressman to vote no" because anyone who isnt an idiot doesnt want a fucking brand new schedule for the drug war

Well, we have our weed and shrooms, and acid is already illegal. (But gotta keep those relatives away from sessions too!)

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/8xeyxv/sitsa-kratom-ban

Lets hope people care enough about kratom and no drug war that theyd truly oppose this on a legal level. For real. Please contact your local officials. This issue needs our support cause no one will stop it for us.

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Fractal420]
    #25296604 - 06/28/18 09:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

They fail to admit losing a war they love losing.

There are some seriously demented mofos in Government,  old and stupid,  the bible rotted their brain.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25296854 - 06/28/18 11:47 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

this will have a real world impact. A new fucking schedule. It just cant be allowed to happen.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Fractal420]
    #25296893 - 06/28/18 12:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Just accept that it most likely will and deal with it.  Control the things in life you can control.  We are just peasants and are treated as such.  Conformity and massive punishments going against it my whole life has caused me great suffering.  I will still always fight it and be myself though.

Point being, don't let it drag you down.:stoned:

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #25298270 - 06/29/18 04:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

This is very, very bad.  Sessions is a monster and anti-drug in the extreme.  It is way too naive and optimistic a position to rely on only 2 more years of Trumpism to save this situation.

Say goodby to ALD-52, and all the LSD analogs, because they and other drugs that we know and love that are tryptamine and phenethlyamine analogs will disappear overnight under the guise of controlling the true problem, fentanyl.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Nature Boy]
    #25298337 - 06/29/18 06:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

time to stop mentioning these chems. I mean the upside is, lsd is already illegal, and it doesnt change much as far as the classics.

I hope that doesnt happen. We all know jeff sessions is an idiot. But remember when they took away all the 2c's, its like that. People would write about how fun and trippy they are, and of course, that put them on the radar

And remember also, it was mostly democrats the last time. And its also democrats this time. I think these conservative dinosaurs are too stupid to actually ban chems we care about. The democrats tho.

And that really sucks. Anyway, theres still time for this bill. Other groups fight for their rights. Will drug users? I hope so.

From DPA: UPDATE (6/15/18): The House passed the SITSA Act 239-142. We’re disappointed to lose this vote but confident we can stop the Senate from moving the bill. Thanks to all who helped! Stay tuned for more updates and ways to take action.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/congress-trying-make-it-easier-jeff-sessions-and-dea-outlaw-any-drug-they-want

otherwise all those analogs are just gonna go black market. There will still be ALD but in the usual form: sold as lsd. It has been since the 60s. But like i said, the main thing is not to bring attention to them. Its the media reports that always lead to scheduling.

But Sessions having his own schedule is clearly an overreach, by far.

I also think kratom alone gives this bill plenty of public opponents. But we need more. People have to be okay with voicing their pro-drug opinions. Until then, who can you even blame? This needs to be stickied at the very top of the news headlines, IMO. in bold

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Barnaby]
    #25298566 - 06/29/18 08:51 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Just accept that it most likely will and deal with it.  Control the things in life you can control.  We are just peasants and are treated as such.  Conformity and massive punishments going against it my whole life has caused me great suffering.  I will still always fight it and be myself though.

Point being, don't let it drag you down.:stoned:




I have no issues conforming when in society. I really prefer to represent myself in a way that is acceptable by all members of society. Really this news doesnt impact me as the drugs i like are illegal and I have no interest in RCs.

Its funny as I got old I just stopped caring about the drug war and its outcomes. Sorry to those it does impact.


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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25298791 - 06/29/18 11:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Well the thing is, its not really about just the chemicals. It gives Jeff Sessions his own schedule. Literally called schedule A, for analog. Or "Anything".

The thing is the bill is proposed to stop fentanyl but he specifically mentions wanting to schedule hallucinogens, sedatives, stimulants, and so on as well. And here are the real worrying points:

This does not have to be approved by a court. It means any chemical he wants can be put on there. Im not sure how much you know about Jeff Sessions, but its a VERY disturbing concept.

The other thing is that it strangely makes possession okay it seems, BUT if you give a drug to someone and they do something stupid, it is now officially your fault.

This sounds like Jeff Sessions' wet dream. Really. Let them ban the fentanyl analogs, more will keep coming, but, this law truly disturbs me, and i hope it does not pass. Its an ominously bad sign for *everyone* here.

To Violet Wizard, i really do get what youre saying, and i dont use RCs these days at all. But you have to remember that LSD was originally an "rc" and this is some serious regression, without even mentioning the concept of banning the drugs you personally use. If it passes, its really just another big loss for people trying to win the drug war.

And i get it, you dont care anymore. And i dont blame you but. All groups who got civil rights fought for them. Drug users tend to be afraid to. And the risks are probably about equal to other oppressed groups (arrest, prison, etc)

All im saying is its still worth a shot to contact your local corrupt representative.

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Re: Congress Wants To Give Jeff Sessions Unprecedented New Drug War Powers [Re: Fractal420]
    #25298936 - 06/29/18 12:35 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'd stick to plants.  LSD is a CIA brainwashing drug.

Mushrooms aren't really owned by any culture.  They grow all over.  Cactus is a little more owned.  I think source matters more than you think.


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