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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25285117 - 06/22/18 12:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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I figured I'd start that thread now. I have a feeling this is going to be talked about a little. My pinky says so.

Any predictions?

Denuclearization?
War?
Stand still?



Looks like nothing but more sanctions...

Trump officially declares North Korea still a threat, despite his claim after historic summit





Slap China with 700 billion dollar in tariffs. Declare war to NK. Crush them, then slowly lift sanctions from China.

China and NK need to realize they they aren't in charge of the wrold. The Western world is and it will remain that way.

EDIT: Perhaps this is a little too aggressive lol. Time will tell.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #25285218 - 06/22/18 01:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

The western world is not in charge of the world either. The western world is in charge of itself only, and any claims that the western world is in charge of the whole world is the kind of jingoistic bullshit that gets us stuck losing a war against poor-ass dirt farmers in Iraq.

China and NK have as much right to exist as the US and Canada do, and China and NK have as much rights within their spheres of influence as the US and Canada do. Anything else is called being a warmongering bully who just needs to get their shit kicked in.

If the western world wants to remain in charge of the world, then they need to step up and take a leadership position where everybody actually *wants* to follow the western world. Trump's method of "my way or the (nuclear) highway" is wrong, and I honestly wouldn't hold it against either China or NK if they decided on a military strike. We have it coming. It would be justified.

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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Kryptos]
    #25285237 - 06/22/18 01:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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The western world is not in charge of the world either. The western world is in charge of itself only, and any claims that the western world is in charge of the whole world is the kind of jingoistic bullshit that gets us stuck losing a war against poor-ass dirt farmers in Iraq.

China and NK have as much right to exist as the US and Canada do, and China and NK have as much rights within their spheres of influence as the US and Canada do. Anything else is called being a warmongering bully who just needs to get their shit kicked in.

If the western world wants to remain in charge of the world, then they need to step up and take a leadership position where everybody actually *wants* to follow the western world. Trump's method of "my way or the (nuclear) highway" is wrong, and I honestly wouldn't hold it against either China or NK if they decided on a military strike. We have it coming. It would be justified.




Oh trust me, everybody want to be like the Western world.  The waiting list on immigration is miles long.  If Canada opened it's border we would have a population of a billion.

People are supressed in order to not be like the Western world.  Everybody wants to be free of doing and saying what they want. It's human nature.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Patlal]
    #25285247 - 06/22/18 01:37 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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The western world is not in charge of the world either. The western world is in charge of itself only, and any claims that the western world is in charge of the whole world is the kind of jingoistic bullshit that gets us stuck losing a war against poor-ass dirt farmers in Iraq.

China and NK have as much right to exist as the US and Canada do, and China and NK have as much rights within their spheres of influence as the US and Canada do. Anything else is called being a warmongering bully who just needs to get their shit kicked in.

If the western world wants to remain in charge of the world, then they need to step up and take a leadership position where everybody actually *wants* to follow the western world. Trump's method of "my way or the (nuclear) highway" is wrong, and I honestly wouldn't hold it against either China or NK if they decided on a military strike. We have it coming. It would be justified.




Oh trust me, everybody want to be like the Western world.  The waiting list on immigration is miles long.  If Canada opened it's border we would have a population of a billion.

People are supressed in order to not be like the Western world.  Everybody wants to be free of doing and saying what they want. It's human nature.




That may be true, but it in no way invalidates anything I have said. The western world does not run the world, and has no legal or moral claim to run the world.

Also, I'm fairly certain that not everybody wants to be like us.

Especially now.

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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #25285279 - 06/22/18 01:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Oh trust me, everybody want to be like the Western world.  The waiting list on immigration is miles long.  If Canada opened it's border we would have a population of a billion.

People are supressed in order to not be like the Western world.  Everybody wants to be free of doing and saying what they want. It's human nature.




People like freedom but I think they care more about economic security. The reason authoritarian regimes are accepted is uesually because people are convinced it’s in their best economic interest. Mussolini was widely popular because people thought he made the trains run on time (even though it actually had little to do with him).

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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: koods] * 1
    #25286169 - 06/22/18 10:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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It's meaningless blather from a man with zero substance





It is a meaningless blather from a political trump hater.:smug:


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #25286174 - 06/22/18 10:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

So how’s the denuclearizing going?


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: koods]
    #25286198 - 06/22/18 10:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

About you tells us?  I have not heard much about it.  I don't have time to listen to it.  I am working all day long for likes of you Koods.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #25286200 - 06/22/18 10:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I would love for you to tells us Koods.  Since you are have such acumen about the political states of the big political issues. Oh thrill us, with your knowledge of the human state and international affairs.  :smug:
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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #25298049 - 06/28/18 11:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

How’s that denuclearization going?

North Korea Is Rapidly Upgrading Nuclear Site Despite Summit Vow Satellite images show no evidence of dismantling after Kim Jong Un’s commitment at summit to denuclearize

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SEOUL—North Korea is upgrading its nuclear research center at a rapid pace, new satellite imagery analysis suggests, despite Pyongyang’s commitment to denuclearization at a summit with the U.S. this month.

The analysis from 38 North, a North Korea-focused website published by the Stimson Center in Washington, found that Pyongyang, in recent weeks, appears to have modified the cooling system of its plutonium-production reactor and erected a new building near the cooling tower. New Construction could also be observed at the site’s experimental light-water reactor, the report said.




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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: koods]
    #25298071 - 06/28/18 11:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Mike Pompeio or however you spell his name just said that NK is the number one nuclear threat again, even though Trump said that NK was no threat anymore...a week ago?

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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #25298092 - 06/28/18 11:39 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What is scary about this situation is that Trump is so relecutant to ever admit failure that he won’t do anything that makes it obvious Kim made him the fool.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: koods] * 1
    #25299005 - 06/29/18 01:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

It seems as though you want NK peace talks to fail.  You want Trump to fail at creating peace.  Rather than hoping for the best for our country and the world you glee with excitement at every road block.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #25299012 - 06/29/18 01:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If it was up to Korea there wouldve been peace 60 years ago.

But the US kept a war going and left the entire peninsula under threat of nuclear holocaust all because.........


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25299034 - 06/29/18 01:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Oh is that so?  North Korea has always wanted peace?


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #25299140 - 06/29/18 02:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

North Korea didnt start a war, we did.

Korea was a colonial state until the Korean people decided they wanted to change things.

The colonial powers decided fuck that, and killed a shitload of Koreans to prevent that from happening. Same with Vietnam. Iran. Guatemala. Chile. El Salavador. Brazil. On and on.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25299587 - 06/29/18 06:52 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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North Korea didnt start a war, we did.

Korea was a colonial state until the Korean people decided they wanted to change things.

The colonial powers decided fuck that, and killed a shitload of Koreans to prevent that from happening. Same with Vietnam. Iran. Guatemala. Chile. El Salavador. Brazil. On and on.





NO the soviet union did.  before that, Korea was protectorate of Japan, and the UN decided to have votes.  Soviet Union vetod the resolution, and the US did not 'start a war.' 

The north didn't didn't like "the anti-communist dictator Syngman Rhee" and 75,000 North Koreans poured in to the south.

That started the war.  the americans got involved, and got pushed back in the area around Pusan by Chinese commies.  The Americans landed at Inchon behind the CHinese and cut off the supplies to the 1 million people invading the south.  THe war would be stopped, there would no north korea, and everything was good.

Thanks to Truman, the North stayed alive.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #25299601 - 06/29/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah how dare the Korean communists use outside help.

As we all know, the South won the war by themselves.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25299604 - 06/29/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Also Truman wanted to nuke Korea.


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Re: The North Korea/US summit is about to happen. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25299624 - 06/29/18 07:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Also Truman wanted to nuke Korea.




No, he didn't.  McCarthur wanted to used nuclear bombs, Truman stopped it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Truman%27s_relief_of_General_Douglas_MacArthur

it is a little more complicated than 'Truman wanted to nuke Korea' 


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