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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25281 - 07/23/00 01:59 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

So, you didn't sterilize the sweetened water?

Have you tried using honey water? Is the Nutrasweet preferable?

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25283 - 07/23/00 12:34 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I had no luck with the honey water. So I messed around and did this.
It would probably work with spores if the jars were sterilized (without H2O2). Havent tried it though.
I didnt sterilize the water/sweetner other than adding H2O2 into the solution.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25284 - 07/23/00 02:04 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

If only i were smart enough to cultivate shroomies..

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25285 - 07/23/00 04:42 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Hey nice one. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the Aspartame - I dont think its chemically similar to sugar. Oh yeah, what concentration was the H202? My pet beaver might try this, he's sick of relying on the spore suppliers. He's also planning on making a spore syringe but is concerned about contamination.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25286 - 07/24/00 01:03 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Regular store brand hydrogen peroxide (3%). Dont use peroxide for spore syringes, it will kill spores, not mycelium tho.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25287 - 07/24/00 02:29 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

OOOO Shit BoomerZ! I'm going to try that tek. If only I could get my jars colonizing.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25288 - 07/24/00 02:37 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

WHAT A GREAT TEK!! If I were illegally growing mushrooms in my friends closet I would definately try this!!!

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25289 - 07/25/00 04:17 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, Aspartame contains polyketons.. (or something like that) the thing is, some people are alergic to it. do you think the shrooms my mutate or something being exposed to it? I am also asking because I wanted to know, have you eaten any mushrooms that resulted from this experiment? Did you find any difference. I know that nutrasweet fucks with you memory, in fact, when i drink nutrasweet i become disoriented, and detached, and some of my girl friends drink it because it gives them a sort of mental high.. I hate nutrasweet.. but i do like this tek..

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25290 - 07/25/00 01:16 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Well, the mushies are pinning right now, and do look pretty strange for pins. But the number makes up for the wierd. There about 50 pins on 1 half pint cake. I'll report friday to say if the mushrooms were mutated sugnificantly or not. I have used nutrasweet in PF substrate before, which proved to increase colonization rate, and it produced some heavily rhizomorphic strands. There were about 3 mutants that resulted from those cakes, but the rest of the mushz were normal. I ate em and they were fine, so i dont think that it really causes anything bad to happen in the mushrooms.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25291 - 07/25/00 04:11 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I just checked the pins from about 3 hours ago when i last posted and they have visibly grown. there was only 1 with a visible brown "mini-cap" and now there are 5. I have never experienced pins growing this fast. I only birthed the cake saturday (no invitro) and there are quite a number of pins. Usually, for me anyways, it takes about a week for pinning to start.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25292 - 07/25/00 04:53 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Frankenshrooms!!! hehehe I gotta try this boomerz.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25293 - 07/27/00 12:16 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I used your nutrasweet mycelium method about two days ago. i followed it to a T. i had some mycelium to play with so i made up six jars of the stuff. 3 jars look exactly like they did when i started and 3 jars are cloudy as hell. has anyone else had this work this fast??? how thick should the mycelium water be before it is ready to use??
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25294 - 07/27/00 01:18 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

What temps are the jars at? Mycelium after 2 days..that sounds strange. Might be contams, but if you used H2O2, it shouldnt be a prob. As soon as you feel like it, you can start innoculating jars with the myc. water. Dont let it cloud TOO much, otherwise it clumps together and is hard to get small, easy mycelium peices. (innoculating is the tricky part, the mycelium doesnt want to come out of the syringe once in it). It took my jar 2 and 1/2 weeks before i could see mycelium. BUT it was at low temps.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25295 - 07/27/00 02:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

The jars are at 80 degrees. I used approximately a capful of H202 per jar. So i dont think its contamination. Would contamination be a different color or would it be the same foggy white? I put in about 10-12 strings of mycelium. How many did you put in?
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25296 - 07/27/00 02:15 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

i forgot to mention, im using half-pint jars, so i cut the ingredient quantities in half. the mycelium was also from a fresh cake if that matters, so it could still be growing rigorously like we know fresh cakes do.
my last batch had a high contam. level and i was only 100% sure that this one cake had no contams on it, so instead of trying to get it to fruit and hope to make a print, i cannabalized it and used the mycelium to try these nutrasweet jars to create a larger amount of innoculant.
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25297 - 07/27/00 05:25 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt its contamination. Try innoculating some jars and post here when they start to show growth. If they dont grow, then its probably not mycelium. Also, when you innoculate the jars, it may take as much time as spores to start growing. Post your results. Good luck!

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25298 - 07/27/00 06:09 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

if dextrose and maltodextrin are the active ingredients here, I bet buying some malt extract from a home brew store would work great. Probably a lot cheaper, you could do this 100 times over with one can.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25299 - 07/27/00 11:34 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

i cooked up and innoculated some jars tonight. ill let you know when something happens.
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25300 - 07/28/00 12:12 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I tried this tek with a little variation. I put water (tap) and 1 nutrasweet packet. (i did this for 4 jars..) I then proceeded to drop in one drop of spore juice into two of the jars. (notice i did not put in any h2o2) After two days, the innoculated jars are slightly cloudy, and the controls are still clear. Seems like i should be able to innoculate within a week. Oh yea.. when i say I, I mean my uncly vinny.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25301 - 07/28/00 03:19 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I'm allergic to Nutrasweet, it sucks ass. I get that same dizzy feeling if I eat or drink something with that stuff in it. Harmless my ass. But I digress.

Since this tek is sort of a cloning technique, won't the strain eventually lose vigor and a new sport print be taken? I mean, the honey tek works indefinitely because you're germinating spores which are many different cultures in one. I forget what that thing is called but for every generation of cloning you get some sort of DNA degredation. It must be true 'cause I saw it on Star Trek. :wink:

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25302 - 07/28/00 12:25 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

i opened up some of the jars of nutrasweet water today, and some of them smell rather foul. not all though. i am guessing the cloudiness was caused by contams, because i dont think it is supposed to smell this way. unless someone tells me that nutrasweet water is supposed to smell this way, im destroying these jars.
boomerz, what did yours smell like?
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25303 - 07/28/00 01:04 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, check out my post in the HONEY!! thread. I found a cool site that describes all the different types of sugars. Neato.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25304 - 07/28/00 04:13 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

my jars didnt smell. Also, i harvested a whole buncha shroomies from my cakes today...many were mutants, but NONE aborted. There were LOTS of em too.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25305 - 07/28/00 04:33 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

trip some of them!... .tell us how it goes :P

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25306 - 07/31/00 06:42 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

So..... how waS YER TRIP??

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25307 - 08/04/00 07:15 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

Well....

I have tried this, and have a jar of cloudy water after two days , where most temp was over 80 degrees.

But I STILL want ti kow if boomer tripped those shrooms....

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25308 - 08/04/00 07:25 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

NOT YET!!
ive been out of town. Ive eaten mushies from SUBSTRATE (cake and casing) that had nutrasweet in it, they were fine.

BTW, anyone have success yet? (innoculated jars)

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25309 - 08/04/00 07:31 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

ive had no sign of anything....mycelium or contams...hmmm...i think im going to try again.
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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25310 - 08/05/00 10:26 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

i tried the tek.. i don't know if i like the idea of having that many mutated mushrooms. Nutrasweet isn't natural.. and i wuould hate to give it to someone who might be allergic. I like the idea of the tek.. the simplicity of using something that is easily found just about anywhere... but.. anyway.. maybe we can modify the tek.. what about simple table sugar??

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25311 - 08/05/00 10:48 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

I am innoculating a jar or two tonight... will keeep informed.

I am also going to try another jar of Boomerz using Fructose, found at my local herbal shope!! Will keep you informed.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25312 - 08/05/00 10:51 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

I made a lot of this stuff. I think I'm gonna try to use PF tek, with this water being the 1/4 cup of water added.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25313 - 08/04/00 11:42 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25314 - 08/04/00 11:44 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

Speaks: How do you plan on doing that?
"water being 1/4 cup of water added"

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25315 - 08/04/00 11:52 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

I mixed Verm with Rice, put in jar. Put some other Verm in a plastic container, with a sturdy plastic mixing spoon.

Nuked it all.

First time plastic container Melted. I bitched. Tried it again.

Now I have the following:

1-A jar of sterilized rice/Verm mixture.

2- Sterilized Verm to place on TOP of mixture, in jar, as per PF.

3- A sterilized 1/4/ cup measurer, to measure Mycelium water.

I will now try, quickly, to pour the water in the mix and stir some, in a windless, non contaminated area. Will cap and pray.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25316 - 08/06/00 10:00 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

let's see who steals this tek; minor mods and posts wqith their name

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25317 - 08/05/00 11:03 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

maybe taking mycellium strainds from the nutrisweet cakes and using that tek they shrooms might adapt to the nutrisweet and stop mutating? kinda liek things i've read about the early generation cambodias being all nasty looking and the older ons being ok? think it was cambodias.....

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25318 - 08/06/00 12:38 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

Speaks, you'll be lucky not to get contams, you should make PF jars the regular way and innoculate the regular way. Well, if any MYCELIUM grows at all, with or without contams, please inform! and BE PATIENT!

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25319 - 08/06/00 01:02 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

saw a report where someone tried just malto-dextrine, it did not work.
unsure about aspartame itself but since your packets contain dextrose that is likely the source of nutrition.
nothing new in using dextrose to grow mycellia so i doubt any one will pirate this tek.
seems that honey is just as common, a bit cheaper and more contam resistant overall. try it instead.

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25320 - 08/09/00 12:06 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

Hippie is right, although going against "my" "tek". It proably is easier to do honey jars. But you wont get as many NEAT looking mutations!

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Re: Easy Mycelium: It works.

#25321 - 08/09/00 06:37 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

There was some talk a year or so ago on the Hive (MDMA, meth site) about chemically manipulation aspertame with the result being some type of amphetamine. Seems the chemical structure of asperame is rather simular.

I don't think much research went into this idea, but the thought was there.

Does this have anything to do with shrooms? I don't think so, but did think it was a neat aside :wink:

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