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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
    #25272523 - 06/16/18 03:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

The stupid bitch is getting tossed out on her ass which is what she deserves. Should also be jailed but that won't happen. Poetic justice would be if an immigrant assaulted her


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25272548 - 06/16/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Uk doesnt get to claim europe anymore, they brexited. Theyre on their own, an island surrounded by big water. Ocean water.



That's right. It's called independence.







its called cutting off your nose to spite your face


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #25274864 - 06/17/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.google.com/amp/m.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2151131/italy-turns-away-two-more-boats-loaded-human-cargo%3famp=1

Im glad salvini is sticking to his guns. This is a good sign for Italy and promising for any other countries who might decide to take such a stance


“These people should know that Italy no longer wants to be any part of this business of clandestine immigration and they will have to look for other ports to go to,” he said. “As minister and as a father, I take this action for the benefit of all.”

Almost 60 per cent of Italians are in favour of closing the country’s ports, supporting Salvini’s anti-immigration strategy, Ferdinando Pagnoncelli, president of polling company Ipsos Italia, wrote on Saturday in Corriere della Sera newspaper, citing a survey conducted on June 12 and 13


60 percent of Italians oppose third world migrants flooding into their countries. They should have their wishes respected. What kind of dictators would shove migrants down their throats if they're not wanted there? What kind of fascist dictators are running the show?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25274878 - 06/17/18 04:48 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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What kind of fascist dictators are running the show?




what kind of fascist dictators do you want to run the show?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25274968 - 06/17/18 05:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

None. Im for freedom,  and only dictators railroad and force policies on countries or groups that disagree. Do you support tyranny?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25274977 - 06/17/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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None. Im for freedom,  and only dictators railroad and force policies on countries or groups that disagree. Do you support tyranny?




people can still have a problem of an ineffective asylum processing system without burning international law to the ground.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25276324 - 06/18/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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None. Im for freedom,  and only dictators railroad and force policies on countries or groups that disagree. Do you support tyranny?




people can still have a problem of an ineffective asylum processing system without burning international law to the ground.




An unenforceable law is essentially meaningless.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 3
    #25276328 - 06/18/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

So immigration law?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25276349 - 06/18/18 10:59 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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So immigration law?




Nope.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25276354 - 06/18/18 11:03 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

So how come theres 20 million illegal immigrants here?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25276362 - 06/18/18 11:05 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/18/17474600/trump-tweet-crime-germany

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Trump just tweeted that “crime in Germany is way up.” It’s actually at its lowest level since 1992.




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
    #25276367 - 06/18/18 11:08 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/18/donald-trump-attacks-angela-merkel-saying-her-coalition-is-rocking

"the people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition...Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture...We don't want what is happening with immigration in Europe to happen with us"


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25276373 - 06/18/18 11:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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So how come theres 20 million illegal immigrants here?




The elite have no incentive to enforce a law that costs them hundreds of billions of dollars in higher labor expenses.

But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25276386 - 06/18/18 11:18 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/world/europe/germany-merkel-coalition.html

Seehofer- "If there is no solution reached, in July we will have to begin, turning people back"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
    #25276492 - 06/18/18 12:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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So how come theres 20 million illegal immigrants here?




The elite have no incentive to enforce a law that costs them hundreds of billions of dollars in higher labor expenses.

But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.




So youre saying the law isnt enforceable.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #25276521 - 06/18/18 01:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
So how come theres 20 million illegal immigrants here?




The elite have no incentive to enforce a law that costs them hundreds of billions of dollars in higher labor expenses.

But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.




So youre saying the law isnt enforceable.




Of course it's enforceable, the US and EU have the resources to protect their borders and enforce the existing immigration laws.

There are reasons why we have citizenship, very few people want to live in a free for all situation that you dream about.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25276610 - 06/18/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Youre the one who said unenforceable laws are pointless. Its your utopian dream not mine.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25278822 - 06/19/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.




But by all means, divide the working classes by hating on workers according to their immigration status, that'll really show the elites.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25278842 - 06/19/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Tipote said:
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qman said:
But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.




But by all means, divide the working classes by hating on workers according to their immigration status, that'll really show the elites.




Maybe the native citizens should decide on the levels of LEGAL immigration into their homelands, not the elite.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25280765 - 06/20/18 11:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/20/european-leaders-to-attend-emergency-mini-summit-on-migration

Why the emergency meeting on migration, I thought everything was going so well.

"Austria's prime minister, Sebastian Kurz...proposal for creation of military 'secure zones' for refugees in north Africa"

There you have it folks, the EU needs to send their military to north Africa to stop the migrants from landing on EU shores.

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