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    #25274461 - 06/17/18 09:30 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

This tek is part of bod's cultivation is easy as fuck link list



How to do S3(shoeboxes stupid simple)


mix spawn and substrate into a 6-12q plastic storage box (6q is the ubiquitous shoebox)

you may also put the grains on bottom and the substrate on top (cased grains)

at 50-80% colonization, or immediately, put into "fruiting conditions" which is removing the lid and putting a grocery bag with some small holes poked in it over the top

like this

now the hard part, mist once or twice a week, if you even need to.
then harvest.

After harvesting, second flush? how do you do a second flush? it just happens. add some water, how do you add water? you can mist, bottom water, or dunk. how much water? pick it up and when it feels like it did when you first made it, then it's good. If it feels light it might need a drink after the first flush. Don't over think it. RH in your room? doesn't matter mine is in the 20-30% range most of the year. RH in the shoebox? don't measure it who cares. FAE comes from the lid not making a tight seal, and the grocery bag having some holes poked in it, it gets FAE 24/7 automatically, there is no need to fan.

worried about colonization conditions and fruiting conditions? DON'T.
Just put it into fruiting conditions immediately then, problem solved.

how much spawn to use how much substrate? put it in until it looks right. use 1 part spawn to 1 to 4 parts substrate or 20-50% spawn by volume.



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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25274491 - 06/17/18 09:48 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

The grocery bag is an interesting idea. :thumbup:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: boom boom] * 6
    #25274494 - 06/17/18 09:50 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25274506 - 06/17/18 09:56 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I'd been planning to experiment with 16 or 20 quart tubs specifically because the idea of dubtubbing doesn't sit well with me. This is a neat little workaround.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: boom boom] * 5
    #25274510 - 06/17/18 09:56 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

May as well get one extra use out of these plastic bags


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25274529 - 06/17/18 10:05 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms




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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25274533 - 06/17/18 10:06 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I rarely dub tub either. Gonna rock a few myself real soon.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25290327 - 06/25/18 12:50 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

How do you recommend to light these? Coming from just setting the light directly on the lid of the unbod tubs.

Are there any fire/melt concerns/hazards regarding the light + plastic bags?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: menacingtrees] * 2
    #25290369 - 06/25/18 01:54 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I was thinking of the same thing light?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Geinstein] * 1
    #25290392 - 06/25/18 02:25 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I've only dub tub when the fruits get tall like these.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: menacingtrees] * 2
    #25290543 - 06/25/18 04:53 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you recommend to light these? Coming from just setting the light directly on the lid of the unbod tubs.

Are there any fire/melt concerns/hazards regarding the light + plastic bags?




Use a lamp. This is simple shit. Go with the most obvious solution.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: 36fuckin5] * 18
    #25290562 - 06/25/18 05:04 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

When it comes to lighting i recommend common sense and figuring it out.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #25290623 - 06/25/18 06:15 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

So hold up I got 8 tubs at about 90% colonization the tops are done just lil spots not done at the bottom so I can place them in fruiting now?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: kushman88] * 3
    #25290625 - 06/25/18 06:15 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

You may do whatever you like with your own tubs.
I tend lately to do "fruiting conditions" immediately or at 50-80%. And always before 100%


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    #25290638 - 06/25/18 06:22 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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You may do whatever you like with your own tubs.
I tend lately to do "fruiting conditions" immediately or at 50-80%. And always before 100%



With these shoeboxes isnt simply leaving the lid on still considered fruiting conditions because they still get a decent amount of fae? So you kind of are fruiting at spawn no matter what right? I've succesfully just left the lid on before until the fruits got too tall for it.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 2
    #25290659 - 06/25/18 06:33 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

That’s awesome I’m fruiting my tubs later after work now


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    #25290660 - 06/25/18 06:33 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

So hold up I got 8 tubs at about 90% colonization the tops are done just lil spots not done at the bottom so I can place them in fruiting now?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 3
    #25290663 - 06/25/18 06:35 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

yes. but shrooms can grow tall.


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    #25290670 - 06/25/18 06:39 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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yes. but shrooms can grow tall.



Yea ive had shrooms push up against the top of the dub tub before lol. But sweet, i just wanted to make sure that simply leaving the lid on was still an acceptable method for fruiting these.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 1
    #25290674 - 06/25/18 06:40 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

bodhisatta said:
You may do whatever you like with your own tubs.
I tend lately to do "fruiting conditions" immediately or at 50-80%. And always before 100%



With these shoeboxes isnt simply leaving the lid on still considered fruiting conditions because they still get a decent amount of fae? So you kind of are fruiting at spawn no matter what right? I've succesfully just left the lid on before until the fruits got too tall for it.



Yea that's why i say "fruiting conditions" in quotes because it's stupid to me but confusing to new people. So I'm trying to elude to how stupid the distinction can be


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 2
    #25290678 - 06/25/18 06:41 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

its literally the exact same thing. the only differences are in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #25290743 - 06/25/18 07:23 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

So simple!! Great writeup!!


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    #25290833 - 06/25/18 08:23 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Bodhi, youre one of the consistently most helpful people ive met on shroomery. Seriously you fucking rock. Id give you 10 shrooms!

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420] * 3
    #25291958 - 06/26/18 07:36 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Bod, I've spent the last few months reading as many threads here as I can, and you are consistently helpful. Idk what drives you, dude, but you're a natural teacher.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: azureskies] * 1
    #25292117 - 06/26/18 09:33 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

These are simple as it get's-I can grasp these-I am sure, I won't even need to mist these.It would force me to leave alone due to the plastic bag covering.Just have faith in the mushroom to do its thing.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: rockpup] * 1
    #25292437 - 06/26/18 02:34 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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These are simple as it get's-I can grasp these-I am sure, I won't even need to mist these.It would force me to leave alone due to the plastic bag covering.Just have faith in the mushroom to do its thing.




Still good to add water in between flushes if they just had a crazy flush etc

Though i still need to try this technique exactly, i just run the typical mini and mono tubs (and dubtubs if i have no real shoeboxes or 66qt whatever)

But yes, if you used field capacity and all that the water should be right and 4 flushes should be no prob. I just find i get larger pinsets and more/better fruit if substrate is not thirsty


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #25292581 - 06/26/18 05:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms






Alright alright.. Trying this grocery bag thang


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Psicomvb] * 1
    #25296754 - 06/28/18 07:42 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

When you fruit after you spawn how long before you personally see pins


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    #25296770 - 06/28/18 07:52 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

From day of spawning to pins is 10-30 days usually


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    #25296904 - 06/28/18 09:22 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Bod!
Will do this with my next growth and put it in here to show everyone what we all already know.  That if you say it works, if you follow the tek it will work or it was my own fault :smile:

Thanks again for this and for everything you have contributed and continues to do for this community, much love :smile:

Questions friend:

What depth of substrate are you using in those shoe boxes?
I know "standard" is loosely 3-5 inch in mono but in your pictures it looks like you are using quite thin? Please enlighten me, just about to make a few of my own, also will be using a 16 qt tote because that all I had. Hope it wont make much of a difference.

Thank you, Bod!


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Puduwoke] * 1
    #25298380 - 06/29/18 03:53 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Dammit! I need to spawn today. No proper sized shoeboxes. :facepalm:

These are all getting to 100%. I guess another day wont hurt them


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 6
    #25298544 - 06/29/18 05:40 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms



Recycling is cool and all, but until they start making clear grocery bags I think I'll stick with dubtubs. They're 97 cents a piece. And I don't want my shrooms to know I sometimes shop at Walmart.


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    #25298574 - 06/29/18 05:54 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I think its more about the fact that you could be growing more shrooms out of that dubbed tub than the cost of it...

I tried dubbing once when I first started shoeboxes. When the next spawn was ready, the dub trial was over.


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    #25298590 - 06/29/18 06:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I think its more about the fact that you could be growing more shrooms out of that dubbed tub than the cost of it...

I tried dubbing once when I first started shoeboxes. When the next spawn was ready, the dub trial was over.



I guess... I grew 8 shoeboxes at once and harvested more shrooms than I could ever give away though. :shrug:
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    #25298598 - 06/29/18 06:10 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I guess... I grew 8 shoeboxes at once and harvested more shrooms than I could ever give away though. :shrug:






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    #25298638 - 06/29/18 06:36 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms



Recycling is cool and all, but until they start making clear grocery bags I think I'll stick with dubtubs. They're 97 cents a piece. And I don't want my shrooms to know I sometimes shop at Walmart.




I'm dubbing too, and no amount of cringing  is likely to make me reconsider.  :smile:

And you dont have to have double the number of tubs you're running, unless you're starting them all at the same time and they stay on the same schedule for each flush, since the flat lid is on most of the time.


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    #25298661 - 06/29/18 06:53 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)







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I guess... I grew 8 shoeboxes at once and harvested more shrooms than I could ever give away though. :shrug:






Ah, cool.. so you're done growing then?  :smile:



Lol I did idle down quite a bit. I have some gourmet, some PE on agar right now just because it's PE and some sclerotia producers running.


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    #25299658 - 06/30/18 04:28 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I only make dubtubs when theres nothing else but hey. At least 1) they work well 2) theyre easy to make.

But holy shit, taking them apart to harvest, maybe water, taping it back together. Goddammn so annoying lol

But when you dont have a good latched shoebox, and you need to spawn, nothing wrong with a dubtub

I also use them when the shoeboxes i have have black tops or just dont close well. I sometimes also just take a regular single tub and use airtight wrap for the top.

Its not like shoeboxes are that expensive either, consider you can use them over and over and over. I have a couple "monotubs" (FC's) made of different sizes that i reuse. Just plug in some new polyfill.


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    #25299695 - 06/30/18 04:49 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Really the main thing I don't like about dubs is i have a lot of shoeboxes and i like to monitor their status way too much. So moving around the tubs with dubs is too annoying


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    #25299697 - 06/30/18 04:52 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Germs] * 2
    #25299736 - 06/30/18 05:12 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I dub when I remember to do it in time.I use the dub tub because I like the "terrarium" look of it when I come into my grow space.:lol:

The grocery bag works just as good though.(just can't see them :sad:)
If you forget and leave the lid on,not a prob with these shoeboxes,they'll still fruit!

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    #25299765 - 06/30/18 05:30 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah actually the shoebox had the lid and latch on and was fruiting outside, gave me a lot of good shrooms, got ample FAE even without any holes.


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    #25299990 - 06/30/18 08:04 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I only make dubtubs when theres nothing else but hey. At least 1) they work well 2) theyre easy to make.

But holy shit, taking them apart to harvest, maybe water, taping it back together. Goddammn so annoying lol

But when you dont have a good latched shoebox, and you need to spawn, nothing wrong with a dubtub





Say huhwhat?  If you have the right shoeboxes, you just put a second one upside down on top.  They are annoying to move, and dont stack that way, but you only need the top while they're tall enough they dont fit.

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    #25300167 - 06/30/18 12:18 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

This tek is just showing you how to utilize what's around you and most of all use common sense. Nothing wrong with that.


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    #25300170 - 06/30/18 12:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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This tek is just showing you how to utilize what's around you and most of all use common sense. Nothing wrong with that.




I can't find common sense on Amazon, what's your preferred source? :rolleyes:
There's more than one way to skin a cat, as they say- more than one way to do tubs, and it doesn't look like there's a "right way" so much as individual preferred methods.

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    #25300171 - 06/30/18 12:27 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

That's exactly what I'm getting at. If you can use a bag you can use anything. Use your head.


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    #25300254 - 06/30/18 02:54 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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This tek is just showing you how to utilize what's around you and most of all use common sense. Nothing wrong with that.




I can't find common sense on Amazon, what's your preferred source? :rolleyes:
There's more than one way to skin a cat, as they say- more than one way to do tubs, and it doesn't look like there's a "right way" so much as individual preferred methods.

If it works, it works.




Dollar stores > Walmart and so fourth > Hardware stores :cookiemonster:


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    #25300356 - 06/30/18 05:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Quick question. I've got 10 half pint pf tek jars that I inoculated back around 6/8, 7 of the  jars are sitting right at 95%,the other 3 were slower growing so they are around 80%.If I'm planning to spawn 8 to shoeboxes using this tek and 2 to grain jars, is there any reason really to wait for the 100% colonization?

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    #25300372 - 06/30/18 05:15 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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    #25300400 - 06/30/18 05:46 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I just cringe every time i see a dub tub. Why use two shoeboxes for one shoebox of mushrooms



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May as well get one extra use out of these plastic bags



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    #25300666 - 06/30/18 08:26 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Dollar stores > Walmart and so fourth > Hardware stores :cookiemonster:





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    #25300690 - 06/30/18 08:36 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I find cheap buys at hardware stores  :awesome:


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    #25300699 - 06/30/18 08:39 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yep... dollar stores are generally a classic example of ripping off poor people who don't have the sense to realize it


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    #25301985 - 07/01/18 11:50 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Target. Walmart. kmart.

They have some great shroom bins for pretty cheap


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    #25302113 - 07/01/18 04:00 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

May depend on were you live, I pay 89 cents at the dollar store (dollar general) per shoe box, walmart charges 1.34 and I have to drive 45 miles. :justdontknow:

Guess I'll just say, compare prices. Hardware stores do have some nice odd ball sized tubs and containers I don't see at other places though. :awesomenod:


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    #25305806 - 07/03/18 02:00 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)



So I've been stepping away from the grocery bag lid approach after ending up with a tub that unexpectedly contammed during the fruiting process and I didn't see it until harvest when I took the bag off. Now I use large stretchable food covers (14-18" sizes work well for shoeboxes). You can order 30 large covers for $8 off Amazon or you can buy a variety pack at WallyWorld for $2...issue is it only comes with 3 large covers.

Really recommend getting these. Poke some holes in it and you got yourself a snug-fitting lid that doesn't get knocked off like a dubbed shoebox.

Grocery bags are free (or $0.05 if you live somewhere like I do), though, so that is an advantage.....


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    #25306399 - 07/03/18 09:23 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

im basically one of those people who learned from here in like 2013 and ive been sticking with "full proper pasteurization" of coir (and its never let me down as far as bulk sub goes) but i decided to give the bucket tek another shot (bodhi's writeup). It came out a nice very dark brown. As suggested i used it after about 24 hours since the pour (1 650g brick + a quart of verm and a handful of gyp). Spawn is recovering now, i made two tubs. One is already getting its "white" back (the grains). Its not even been a full 24hrs since i spawned em tho. Will be very grateful if it works tho and ill use this method rather than pasteurization if so :smile:

(Was so much less laborous)

PS: as far as a cheap ass lid, you can use seran (sp?) wrap. Just that if youre gonna put it on airtight, make sure the FAE is coming in


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25306412 - 07/03/18 09:39 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I would not use an air tight lid. Even during colonization i get better results if i just do "fruiting conditions" immediately. Literally 1-2 days faster colonization and time to pinning.

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    #25306464 - 07/03/18 10:14 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I’ll post pics later but five days after introducing fae with the bag tel it worked for me I’ll take pics when I’m off work but props on the tek


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    #25307860 - 07/04/18 06:02 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So I've been stepping away from the grocery bag lid approach after ending up with a tub that unexpectedly contammed during the fruiting process and I didn't see it until harvest when I took the bag off. Now I use large stretchable food covers (14-18" sizes work well for shoeboxes). You can order 30 large covers for $8 off Amazon or you can buy a variety pack at WallyWorld for $2...issue is it only comes with 3 large covers.

Really recommend getting these. Poke some holes in it and you got yourself a snug-fitting lid that doesn't get knocked off like a dubbed shoebox.

Grocery bags are free (or $0.05 if you live somewhere like I do), though, so that is an advantage.....




The only 30 pack I see has half medium and half large. Some have a blue ring instead of that red one.


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    #25308498 - 07/05/18 12:32 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So I've been stepping away from the grocery bag lid approach after ending up with a tub that unexpectedly contammed during the fruiting process and I didn't see it until harvest when I took the bag off. Now I use large stretchable food covers (14-18" sizes work well for shoeboxes). You can order 30 large covers for $8 off Amazon or you can buy a variety pack at WallyWorld for $2...issue is it only comes with 3 large covers.

Really recommend getting these. Poke some holes in it and you got yourself a snug-fitting lid that doesn't get knocked off like a dubbed shoebox.

Grocery bags are free (or $0.05 if you live somewhere like I do), though, so that is an advantage.....




The only 30 pack I see has half medium and half large. Some have a blue ring instead of that red one.




Ah fuck me, I have only used a few red ones out of that pack and didn't even fuckin realize there were mediums in there.. I don't know how I missed that...  I've been mainly using the ones (also with red strings) that are in the CoverMate packs (they say 14" but they fit well) that you can get for cheap at Walmart and have only used a few out of the Amazon pack.  Well....grocery bags are starting to sound decent again :undecided: I'm on a mission for larger plastic stretch covers for cheap..  They've gotta be out there.  Also, they sell them at dollar tree but the Surefresh brand doesn't fit.  I haven't tried the other brand they sell there yet, but I'm assuming it doesn't fit either.  I'll pick it up soon and see.  Thanks for pointin this out :frown:


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    #25308508 - 07/05/18 12:42 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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So I've been stepping away from the grocery bag lid approach after ending up with a tub that unexpectedly contammed during the fruiting process and I didn't see it until harvest when I took the bag off. Now I use large stretchable food covers (14-18" sizes work well for shoeboxes). You can order 30 large covers for $8 off Amazon or you can buy a variety pack at WallyWorld for $2...issue is it only comes with 3 large covers.

Really recommend getting these. Poke some holes in it and you got yourself a snug-fitting lid that doesn't get knocked off like a dubbed shoebox.

Grocery bags are free (or $0.05 if you live somewhere like I do), though, so that is an advantage.....




The only 30 pack I see has half medium and half large. Some have a blue ring instead of that red one.




Ah fuck me, I have only used a few red ones out of that pack and didn't even fuckin realize there were mediums in there.. I don't know how I missed that...  I've been mainly using the ones (also with red strings) that are in the CoverMate packs (they say 14" but they fit well) that you can get for cheap at Walmart and have only used a few out of the Amazon pack.  Well....grocery bags are starting to sound decent again :undecided: I'm on a mission for larger plastic stretch covers for cheap..  They've gotta be out there.  Also, they sell them at dollar tree but the Surefresh brand doesn't fit.  I haven't tried the other brand they sell there yet, but I'm assuming it doesn't fit either.  I'll pick it up soon and see.  Thanks for pointin this out :frown:




Damn, I was hoping I was just missing it lol. Oh well, you could just toss out the mediums. $16 for 30 large ones isn't too bad if they last a while. They seem to fit well enough to allow a canopy. It's cheaper than buying shoeboxes to dubtub, and they seem like they would be easier to work with than grocery bags since they're elastic and transparent.


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    #25308517 - 07/05/18 12:52 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I mean I really love them man.  At that point I would just pick up a bunch of variety packs from Walmart.  It breaks down to 50 cents a large cover if you throw all the others away, but you can use the others for food and stuff!  They work super fucking well man. 


I use a knife and stab the plastic 6-10 times and it gets great FAE that way.  That's the same tub from my pic earlier.


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    #25308670 - 07/05/18 02:56 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I dont understand why you're not just using the lid.  It doesnt look like that gives any extra growing space?


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    #25308676 - 07/05/18 02:58 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:


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    #25308678 - 07/05/18 02:59 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:




That's what I'm not understanding.  It doesnt look like that plastic gives any more space than the lid would.  Obviously I'm missing something.  :smile:


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    #25308683 - 07/05/18 03:02 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:




That's what I'm not understanding.  It doesnt look like that plastic gives any more space than the lid would.  Obviously I'm missing something.  :smile:



The mushrooms will push that cover or bag up as they grow.With the lid on,they have a tougher time pushing it up and like to curl back down and around.


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    #25308688 - 07/05/18 03:06 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:




That's what I'm not understanding.  It doesnt look like that plastic gives any more space than the lid would.  Obviously I'm missing something.  :smile:




They give a lot more space than the lid would. Same idea as a grocery bag; it might not stand straight up in the air but it is thin plastic loosely on top, you can adjust it. The mushrooms push the plastic up even if you don't adjust. Lids are much heavier.


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mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:




That's what I'm not understanding.  It doesnt look like that plastic gives any more space than the lid would.  Obviously I'm missing something.  :smile:



The mushrooms will push that cover or bag up as they grow.With the lid on,they have a tougher time pushing it up and like to curl back down and around.




Got it.  In the pics it doesnt look like it would actually give any headroom beyond what the lid would have anyway, especially around the sides.

I'm still gonna dub, cause I have spares (and because if you binder clip them they can still stack), but that makes a lot more sense now.  :smile:


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    #25309151 - 07/05/18 10:58 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

This is part of the reason i like using wrap as a lid. It stretches with the fruit, if its on right.


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mine grow past where the lid would be :shrug:




That's what I'm not understanding.  It doesnt look like that plastic gives any more space than the lid would.  Obviously I'm missing something.  :smile:



The mushrooms will push that cover or bag up as they grow.With the lid on,they have a tougher time pushing it up and like to curl back down and around.




Got it.  In the pics it doesnt look like it would actually give any headroom beyond what the lid would have anyway, especially around the sides.

I'm still gonna dub, cause I have spares (and because if you binder clip them they can still stack), but that makes a lot more sense now.  :smile:




I would think clipping the lids together would close the gaps and really limit your FAE.


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    #25309306 - 07/05/18 03:07 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Dubtubs is the original shoebox tek. It works.


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    #25309320 - 07/05/18 03:20 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah but the tek on that just has the second tub resting on top of the first one, and they don't fit perfectly, so there's all sorts of natural gaps there for FAE. Clipping them together might seal then more.


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    #25309450 - 07/05/18 05:35 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Dubtubs is the original shoebox tek. It works.




It is. And i like dubtubs but when youre taping them back together each flush like me and trying to even them out, yech. Lol. But yes perfectly good terrariums

Maybe they even look better depending on the tub. Most shoeboxes arent very high. I only use a true "mono" for big ass tubs, like 33-66qt. The one time i did a regular shoebox with 2qt, when i finally started getting monsters there was nowhere for them to go. They were breaking at the ceiling.


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    #25309472 - 07/05/18 05:57 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Gonna give this a try. Been browsing here for years but this is my first post. Bods TEKs have been invaluable to me for their simplicity. Thanks brother!


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    #25309515 - 07/05/18 06:26 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Dubtubs is the original shoebox tek. It works.




Not me:smirk:

I just flipped the lid, put in a mono or open aired them.

Didn't do a dubtub until someone posted a pic in the first few pages of making shoeboxes.


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    #25309526 - 07/05/18 06:38 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You are correct. I misremembered what was yours and munch’s contributions to the first page of the tek.


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    #25309542 - 07/05/18 06:49 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Although i dubtubed an entire mono around 2006:lol:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: JHOVA]
    #25309545 - 07/05/18 06:51 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Got it.  In the pics it doesnt look like it would actually give any headroom beyond what the lid would have anyway, especially around the sides.

I'm still gonna dub, cause I have spares (and because if you binder clip them they can still stack), but that makes a lot more sense now.  :smile:




I would think clipping the lids together would close the gaps and really limit your FAE.




Nope.  Still gaps, still works.

It's only on a few days anyway.  I dont dub them until they need to be, because again, stacking.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: boom boom]
    #25309575 - 07/05/18 07:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah but the tek on that just has the second tub resting on top of the first one, and they don't fit perfectly, so there's all sorts of natural gaps there for FAE. Clipping them together might seal then more.



Unless your tubs have that silicone seal and are air tight when sealed there is always enough of a gap for FAE. Prime example would be how small the GE holes are on jars! If the mycelium thrives with such a small GE it is only plausible that the same would go for slight gaps when lids are clipped during colonization. If you feel that the seal is to tight, you can always leave the lid rested on top without clipping it. Then just flip it when ready to introduce increase FAE for fruiting, or dub it! :thumbup:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25309680 - 07/05/18 08:19 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Dubtubs is the original shoebox tek. It works.




It is. And i like dubtubs but when youre taping them back together each flush like me and trying to even them out, yech. Lol. But yes perfectly good terrariums

Maybe they even look better depending on the tub. Most shoeboxes arent very high. I only use a true "mono" for big ass tubs, like 33-66qt. The one time i did a regular shoebox with 2qt, when i finally started getting monsters there was nowhere for them to go. They were breaking at the ceiling.




Shoebox dubtubs dont require tape, or holes, or anything other than a second shoebox.  Just set one upside down on top of the other.

If having it slide off is a problem, or you want to stack them, binder clips are way easier than tape.

And yeah, sometime the monsters would have said "fuck you" if you actually had the lid on.  Like these third flush biggies (or fourth?  All my tubs have been acting weird and just basically never stopped growing a few at a time)

Largest one was 6g dried.



I do binder clip my dubs btw.  Clearly those guys never starved for FAE.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Sivarted]
    #25311172 - 07/06/18 04:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Mono, dubtub, whatever you prefer to work with!

(For dubs ive always used tape cause its always nearby, and it does work)

Dub looks great but taking it apart drives me nuts. But honestly if its a mini grow (like 1-2qt of spawn) they work really great. Its just worth setting up in a way where you can easily open and close it. I remember just hating the idea of having to open the dubtub for harvest and tape it back together. But it prolly provides more FAE if there are holes on both tubs in the right places with the right amount of polyfill.

Monos get extra FAE from the lid it seems, which is a plus for mono as well.

I said this above but for smaller grows, dubtub, for large grows, a nice 33qt mono works well (i dont like to make them too big, id rather just run 2)

Binder clips, thats a great idea. Better than tape! Lol


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25311450 - 07/06/18 07:32 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Almost forgot these tub was fruited at 60% colonization and threw city market bags over it and 4 days later pins everywhere I definitely vouch for this tek


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: kushman88]
    #25311468 - 07/06/18 07:41 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Almost forgot these tub was fruited at 60% colonization and threw city market bags over it and 4 days later pins everywhere I definitely vouch for this tek



All I see is side pins. Where is everywhere?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Mush Hunter]
    #25311488 - 07/06/18 07:51 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Ive always been in the habit of allowing just a bit of air exchange during the spawn run and once i see full colonization or a pin id put it in "FC mode". I guess its good that i checked these newer teks out, thank you for constantly helping to evolve the mushroom community, bodhi, and really all you hard working shroomerites!


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25311542 - 07/06/18 08:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

This was from MS this was the crappiest tub my other 10 look wayyy better


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: kushman88]
    #25311551 - 07/06/18 08:27 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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This was from MS this was the crappiest tub my other 10 look wayyy better



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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Mush Hunter]
    #25311558 - 07/06/18 08:31 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks yea I’m taking clones later anybody know a great way to reduce side pinning


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: kushman88]
    #25311590 - 07/06/18 08:47 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Having great surface conditions is really the only way to prevent side pins.

And I think without a liner, they're very likely second flush and on anyway.  (Or even with a liner in my case, so I stopped using them)

Of course, they're a lot easier to harvest when the substrate has shrunk, so not a big deal.


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    #25311616 - 07/06/18 09:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely going to try this! I only have 8 shoeboxes and have plans to grow more than 4 at a time.


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    #25311682 - 07/06/18 09:44 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I dont get why sidepins are such a big deal. Then again i work with minitubs usually, so theyre easy to collect, just gotta check the sides. Generally if you use the liner correctly and fill it up with spawn/bulksub, you dont get sidepins unless there are openings (like if you were to pull the substrate away from the liner and leave a small hole, and air gets in). But i find liners are useful for many reasons.

There are times i thought it was best to remove a substrate from a tub. If i didnt use a liner this would be impossible.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25311727 - 07/06/18 10:09 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

It is definitely easier with shoeboxes, especially after the first flush.

You can float monotub substrates to access the sides more easily too, though.  (And the top as well, for dense canopies)

I usually end up with spaces in lines after dunking though, and dont really get sidepins first flush, so I stopped using them


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    #25312592 - 07/07/18 08:15 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Going to try this!


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25312993 - 07/07/18 05:43 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If i didnt use a liner this would be impossible.




Nothing is impossible.


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Generally if you use the liner correctly and fill it up with spawn/bulksub




Generally if you provide proper surface conditions you don't get side pins. Liners are extra steps that don't grow more shrooms so f em.
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    #25313131 - 07/07/18 07:05 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I use no liners and have no issues with side pins or removing substrates from tubs. And the occasional few side pins big deal...


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    #25313196 - 07/07/18 07:53 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:&:whathesaid:
I used liners about 3 times.:nonono: F that.

So,I finally got to spawn some APE!
Only 4 cakes were ready for now,so I stretched them out over a couple containers.
I put 3 in a shoebox and one in my "one cake" mono.

Also did a 3 cake "menace" shoebox.(leftover cakes)

Hope you don't mind that I show my brf cake spawn procedure.

Prep supplies.(this round I had 4 APE cakes and 3 "menace" cakes)

Birth and rinse cakes.Shred them into containers.(I like the bigger hole grater)

Add desired ratio of prepped coir,(bucket tek)and mix well.Level it out.

Optional:Add a light(1/4") top layer of prepped coir.Level it out lightly.

Put the lid on and wait till it colonizes,or go straight to fruit.(I just leave the lid on till I see pins,then go from there)


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: mushboy]
    #25313398 - 07/07/18 09:55 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If i didnt use a liner this would be impossible.




Nothing is impossible.


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Generally if you use the liner correctly and fill it up with spawn/bulksub




Generally if you provide proper surface conditions you don't get side pins. Liners are extra steps that don't grow more shrooms so f em.
:awedance:




True, but once the substrate pulls in from the sides, whatever conditions you're setting up on the surface likely apply to the sides as well.

At that point sidepins end up being just shrooms that happened to grow from the side though, rather than squished flat deformed things just trying to make some space for themselves.  :laugh:


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    #25313407 - 07/07/18 09:58 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Fractal420 said:There are times i thought it was best to remove a substrate from a tub. If i didnt use a liner this would be impossible.




Definitely not impossible.  Just float it in water to a level where you can either move it on top of the lid or just leave it there for harvesting.  Plus you get a little bit of a dunk while you're harvesting.  :smile:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Sivarted]
    #25313469 - 07/07/18 10:27 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

i used to do something similar to this using press n seal over the top. ilike the press n seal because it will actually stick to the edge of the plastic container. then you can lift it up and put it back on very easily. although i was using taller tubs at the time. but id poke about 20 or so pinholes in the pns. then set and forget. didn't need to mist or anything until post 2nd flush. it kept a good environment. even when i had the tubs in almost pure darkness lol they stil frutied.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25313471 - 07/07/18 10:28 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Another stoopid shoebox


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: kushman88]
    #25314317 - 07/08/18 10:13 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Alright alright nothing's "impossible" lol, did not think of floating the substrate.

What i meant was i had to pull it out of the tub before and the sub can break


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    #25314348 - 07/08/18 11:10 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Alright alright nothing's "impossible" lol, did not think of floating the substrate.

What i meant was i had to pull it out of the tub before and the sub can break




Wish I could say I had never done that.  A couple weeks ago...

Lol.  Stupid part was that I floated it and *then* broke it.  Dont ask.  It was dumb.  :laugh:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Sivarted]
    #25314406 - 07/08/18 01:19 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Thats why its good to place a liner and easily pull it out! Been there, broke a sub in half, it did fruit very nicely still but i had a fragmented tub lol. Thankfully it didnt break into pieces. That also happened once.

What i notice is without a liner it kinda sticks to the bin, almost growing into it. It gets stuck to the plastic. Ive never thought of floating it before, but the whole reason i use a liner is mostly so it doesnt break

Sidepins arent ideal but i really have no issue with them. Just when its a huge tub. With minis its no prob at all.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25315884 - 07/09/18 06:21 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I unlatched the lid when I saw the 2nd flush pins and gave them a mist,then let them go at it alone. :leaving:
Came back to this.

The only hydration from 1st to 2nd flush was the "float" and the one mist when I popped the lid.
The lid stayed on from 1st flush harvest to 2nd flush.
Just another example of how versatile and forgiving these shoeboxes (and mushrooms)are.:super:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25343492 - 07/24/18 07:50 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everybody,
I’m a n00b here and have picked up a curiosity for Mycology later than most probably do (assuming most got into in late adolescence/early adulthood)  I’m 31 and have a lot of  daily responsibilities but I’ve got to have something for me and this has become it. I have inoculated a couple “pre-made rye bags” w/ 2.4cc of Golden Teacher. That was 6/15 and now on 7/23 I am so thrilled to say I will be harvesting, in my uneducated guess 2 weeks but, I’m sure there are plenty who are more qualified to answer that. After sacrificing one bag to the yard and seeing how Mother Nature would handle the contamination (consequence of my laziness) and learning from my arrogance, I was able to maintain (1) out of (2) bags, which is what I will be harvesting (fingers crossed).
Out of impatience, before mixing this colonized rye w/ substrate I inoculated 2 other Myco-bags, which are colonizing nicely. I am going to start PFTEK when this harvest is done and I have more time available.
Okay, so let’s get to it-

I needed low maintenance as possible so, I sort of mixed a couple TEKs.  It’s shoeboxes w/ a splash of unBODified tub for Colonization of substrate/FC, but literally flipped upside-down. I took the lid off the *70qt tub, flipped it upside-down, creating a humidity dome for the Shoeboxes.
I have the lightbulb recommended for growing, as well as an air pump/bubbler for an aquarium w/ new tubing blowing air into the “dome”. This is all in my basement where it stays consistently in the tub, 69-72F 98-99% RH. I misted them tonight only bc the substrate seemed a tiny bit dry but I took the tub off the shoeboxes in order for them to breathe. And they also have the air pump/bubbler blowing air 24/7 w/ a 12/12 light cycle.  The CFL bulb allows me to place the light directly on bottom of tub(while it’s flipped upside-down).
I had to improvise w/ my limited resources but am really looking forward to starting PFTEK and getting a better grasp on this whole thing. Then, hopefully, agar- with lots more questions. Peace and love



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    #25351429 - 07/28/18 08:06 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm dubbing too, and no amount of cringing  is likely to make me reconsider.  :smile:





http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/sterilite-clearview-tote-with-latch-26l-1426056p.html#srp

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    #25351633 - 07/28/18 12:46 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

^now thats cool. Latches are super important IMO. Mostly for outdoor grows


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    #25375459 - 08/09/18 01:47 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

This is a great TEk. I only had a pint of rye spawn so I cased with a half inch of 50/50 and put it straight into “fruiting” on 7/30. I also show a possible lighting setup below.



I have misted twice a week and have a RH of 95% .On 08/07 this is what it looks like.




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    #25375955 - 08/09/18 06:01 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

This tek is fantastic.  I started with your Oats recipe Bod.  Tiger dropped into the jars and at 7 days had full colonization.  I made 3 shoeboxes.  2 are 1:1 spawn:coir and 1 is 1:2 spawn:coir.  I decided they looked good enough to fruit, took off the lids, took a picture, and put grocery bags with small pinholes over them.  Hoping to have my first fruits soon!


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    #25376717 - 08/09/18 05:22 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Very cool Ginge. I am going to try mixing with coir next instead of casing. I got some race horse oats in the PC as we speak using BODS OATS TEK.  You colonization looks really nice good luck man.


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    #25376768 - 08/09/18 05:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna do a shoebox of Pan Bisporus as soon as this grain colonizes. I'll post some results here. I'm sure it will work.


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    #25376780 - 08/09/18 05:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

@audiosnipez ditch the RH meter and never worry about RH% again :awesomenod:


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    #25377526 - 08/10/18 12:14 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

That’s just overkill huh? If it’s not needed I will bust it out when I’m curious some time. Thanks brotatoechips. It’s one of the nice cigar ones I saw Roger Rabit using on his SGFC.


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    #25377532 - 08/10/18 12:17 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Bod's easy AF series TEKs are a bro free zone
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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: audiosnipez]
    #25377701 - 08/10/18 01:33 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

If you enjoy your RH meter then by all means keep using it... but your enjoyment would be its only purpose. They don't provide any useful data really...


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: audiosnipez]
    #25378341 - 08/10/18 06:26 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you.  That colonization was after 48 hours of spawn and coir substrate mix.  The jars were given 6 days post 100% colonization.  In my experience Golden Teacher is what I would recommend to all new or struggling mycologists, in my environment at least, it has proven to out perform Treasure Coast and it's colonization times seem to hit the low side of estimates, like 5-7 days, GT is done in 5. 

I will be adding 4 or 5 new strains to my agar work this week so will have a more experienced and educated opinion on GT's seemingly aggressive growth.  Also interesting that side by side, from MS, GT and TC are performing so differently, I mean if a cube is indeed a cube.  GT occasionally starts out tomentose after a transfer but seems to go rhizo within 48 hours of visible growth.  TC has fully colonized pasty plates but the growth has appeared to my naked eye to be tomentose entirely.  I just find these things interesting, and hope some reader out there does too.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Ginge]
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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Ama420]
    #25379071 - 08/10/18 04:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

You guys dont dubtub or close the tubs at all? Just the shopping bags? Sounds easy and awesome

Ive always done the whole tub thing with full pasteurization cause that was what was i was taught. I just recently had a successful tub with just the boiling water method, i think i just followed recipes without checking enough for field capacity and things like that.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25379489 - 08/10/18 09:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

No need for the top tub just use a plastic bag. Good way to go if you need more tubs and it’s just to ez. to not try man.


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    #25387053 - 08/14/18 01:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I to wanted show the early stages with y’all;

15 days after casing one pint of Ecuadorian rye with a half inch of 50/50 casing mix on top i have the below irregular MS pins starting to form. This is my first time fruiting and it has been such an easy method.



I also cased 5 more tubs with each having a quart of spawn put the tomb of the shoebox back on and put away until 90% colonization before fruiting, Also added calcium carbonate and gypsum, The colonization rates are very variety specific.



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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: audiosnipez] * 1
    #25388492 - 08/15/18 03:15 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Looking good Audiosnipez! Your shoeboxes are a bit further along than mine at this point, I will take some pictures tonight.  Mine have only been in tubs for 8 days, since I know we have a similar climate I am hoping that I also get to see pins at 15 days!

Actually I will take the pictures now.  I would love some feedback on their condition.  I moved them into a larger tub with 2 sub80% with lids on and colonizing and 3 that have the lids off that I hope are fruiting.


Here is an overall shot of the setup with the lid off.

And each tub.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Ginge]
    #25389772 - 08/15/18 06:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hellz yeah man those are going to really take off soon. Bet you can’t wait haha. Here another picture of just that pint tub one day later. Nothing to brag about but a good first test case.  I ended up patching some of the sides of the others with a 1/4 inch of casing and I am going to let them colonize a little longer like you did before fruiting.



Ginge once we get some good clones on agar that’s when we will be kings dude!  Uniform thick pin porn baby.  Keep us posted man.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: audiosnipez]
    #25394887 - 08/18/18 01:54 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

So, when it comes to these & misting, is this still supposed to be a set it and forget it kind of thing like a traditional mono? my little shoe box has some caps along the sides of the tub but no action across the middle. I've been trying to choose between opening it up for a spray and a fan, or just leaving it be until I harvest & float it.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Abionicconcord]
    #25394892 - 08/18/18 01:57 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

No need to float a shoebox lol just pull the entire substrate right out with your hands

Mist if needed. Its set and forget if you have some experience and skill in growing mushrooms. Like getting the perfect water content from the start. Or seeing that you might need to poke another air hole in a bag etc...


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25394934 - 08/18/18 02:34 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Speaking of more air holes in a bag Bod, I was thinking that was my problem with this tray.  This was just an experiment with some colonized agar after transfer, topped by your oats and cased.  I had a ziploc over them and when one got to ~100% I poked holes in the bag.  I noticed the yellowing several days ago but saw several posts that had similar concerns and reported still having good flushes.  Not enough FAE was my thought on the problem, can you please confirm or deny?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Ginge]
    #25394997 - 08/18/18 03:13 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

it got a little dry on some of the edges its fine tho


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25400527 - 08/20/18 08:27 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

My box got a whopping 5.6 grams from its first flush lol :cool: I think my horse poo was too dry when I mixed it. Hopefully round two will be a little more bountiful! I would think my led grow light is fine for one of these set ups right?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Abionicconcord]
    #25400777 - 08/20/18 10:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Dude I did a test run with just a pint of grain and got 2.8 g first flush lol. Just put more in Jah feel and use a good clone to get the results that BOD shows.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25404915 - 08/22/18 06:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you Bod, this is very useful. Amazing.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: drprobablyno]
    #25407570 - 08/23/18 10:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

BOD, Would you recommend these shoeboxes as a fast way to test isolations from agar?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Effigy of a Psyche]
    #25435800 - 09/05/18 04:01 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

So, I did a bunch of stuff I shouldn't have done on the way here, but whatever, I'm learning. Started my first MSS PF jars (easy AF link) less than a month ago. Only two colonized fully so far, and even though it's MSS and the slurry tek says not to slurry until you get some experience, I slurried the first. Knocked up 17 RGS quarts with it (10 with boil water, dump grain, cover; 7 soak and boil). Probably had about 8 fully colonized QTs today. Used 6 with Bod's CVG tek. Still have a bit of CVG left. Should I dump it or save it a few days til I have more spawn? I have 3 more bricks laying around. Hope all that isn't too off topic.


Lighting is a tube. Got them under a table away from my colonizers for the temps. Cool?


If I did something dumb let me know. Oh, I mixed 1:1 2qts and added a little casing on top even though I don't understand casing.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25453621 - 09/12/18 06:46 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Like the "cool/lay back" approach and the plastic bags chamber style, not to mention the bunch of goodies coming to say hello :mushroom2:

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Casi Loco] * 1
    #25453749 - 09/12/18 07:57 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I like leaving my lids on at first to keep the humidity up as they colonize the tub and then bag em as they pin.


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    #25464288 - 09/16/18 08:44 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

This is great! Good to know that I don’t have to be a warden with this thing misting it all day


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: ItsSamAllersInnit] * 1
    #25465914 - 09/17/18 07:48 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Nice grow fella's

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25473010 - 09/20/18 12:09 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hi defo not new to the Shroomery but VERY new to shroom cultivation, and had a bad beginning which I won't go into right now.

My main concern right now iti just have one jar about to get covering of mycellium and another one seems to be getting covered. So rather than do the whole fruiting chamber trip, I think a transfer of jar/cake to a shoebox would suit what I meed right now. Could you tell me the steps i need:

Ie when the substrate of jar gets covered in white, what then?

When cake is ready to be taken out of jar and shredded (?) how do I prepare the shoebox before i put it in?

And then what do I need to do to encourage fruiting?

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    #25473041 - 09/20/18 12:31 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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zzripz said:
Hi defo not new to the Shroomery but VERY new to shroom cultivation, and had a bad beginning which I won't go into right now.

My main concern right now iti just have one jar about to get covering of mycellium and another one seems to be getting covered. So rather than do the whole fruiting chamber trip, I think a transfer of jar/cake to a shoebox would suit what I meed right now. Could you tell me the steps i need:

Ie when the substrate of jar gets covered in white, what then?

When cake is ready to be taken out of jar and shredded (?) how do I prepare the shoebox before i put it in?

And then what do I need to do to encourage fruiting?

have I asked the right questions?



When the cakes are fully colonized (covered in white) simply shred them and mix it with whatever substrate you are using, such as coco coir. I usually do 3 or 4 cakes to 2 quarts coir. You don't need to prepare the shoebox in any special way. I usually just give them a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol to get the dust out, but thats probably not even necessary. Make sure your coir is prepared to proper field capacity, mix the cake and coir as evenly as possible, and try to make the surface as level as you can. You can also add a thin layer of just coir to the top, but thats personal preference. Then you can either put the lid on and wait until full colonization to fruit it, or put it directly into fruiting by immediately flipping the lid or grocery bagging it. I'd recommend trying both and see what works best for you.

Currently what i do is leave the lid on the shoebox until its around 80-100% colonized, and then i flip the lids. If your sub was prepped to proper field capacity you will most likely rarely have to mist, and possibly not even have to mist at all during the first flush.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25483468 - 09/24/18 01:39 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I plan on taking my PF cakes that are currently colonizing, and use them with this shoebox method. Is Coco Coir still the substrate I should use with my verm/brf cakes? I'm assuming everything else is the same.


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    #25483471 - 09/24/18 01:40 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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    #25483527 - 09/24/18 02:12 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. Also, I was wondering if you could tell me Is there much of a difference in yield or potency when using the PF cakes rather than the way shown here?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: dmar]
    #25483585 - 09/24/18 02:42 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Has nothing to do with the potency


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25491743 - 09/27/18 06:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

It's great to know that you can use a pf cake as spawn for this tek. Definitely worth trying it out.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: jungleonion]
    #25498503 - 09/30/18 12:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

grosery bag v/s just flipping the lid when going into fruiting?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: sagecl]
    #25500298 - 09/30/18 06:42 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

After years of Martha’s and Monos, I really like the idea of these shoeboxes.

Anyone doing these in foil trays for the ease of disposal?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25519864 - 10/07/18 11:53 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I have to try this


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25520401 - 10/08/18 03:38 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Great write up of this tek bod. Doing this next once my b+s are flushed. Thank you for more wisdom


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: foodguy]
    #25520412 - 10/08/18 03:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I'm trying a round foil tray now with b+s, this is 5 days after spawning 1 half pint of brf spawn to c/v. If it works I have more trays to try once my equadors and costa Ricas are 100%.


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    #25520420 - 10/08/18 03:47 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I know this is off topic how do I get my profile pic to show up it says to big of a file or just looks like it does now, trying to figure it out but cant seem to get it right mean avatar lol


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25569177 - 10/26/18 09:50 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Great tek!


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    #25569185 - 10/26/18 09:56 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

This is seriously a great tek and helpful thread. Getting very excited about shoeboxes.


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    #25573686 - 10/28/18 07:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You can't really monitor your shit that well if you got a bag on top and with so much hassle getting it on and off- only another dollar extra to dub tub and you can even stack them with a couple extra dollars for binder clips.


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    #25575987 - 10/29/18 06:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ive been doing this with minitubs and its saved me so much trouble. Works fucking great. Just a grocery bag, maybe like one hole

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    #25585929 - 11/02/18 10:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So actually, by flush 2 unfortunately my fruit started getting all messed up. I posted in the contam page (tho its likely not a contam at all) and i was told to increase FAE. I have no correct sized bins for dubtub so im getting a few tomorrow. Im just running a fan now. In the write up it said not to, but i seem to be getting fruit that are starved of FAE.

hopefully lots of overnight FAE will help at least. Im sure i can solve this problem by next flush. Seemed like a weird genetic mutation thing at first

I guess this being my first time and seeing flush 1 working well, i assumed it really was set and forget. And Dont worry about FC conditions. So i didnt. I guess one guideline of growing mushrooms is you always should check and adjust if "set and forget" is causing problems.

Lesson learned as far as the bag method. If only i was running a fan once an hour it would have been fine. I know the air in my room doesnt have too much "mobility"


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    #25601259 - 11/09/18 12:16 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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    #25601456 - 11/09/18 02:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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So actually, by flush 2 unfortunately my fruit started getting all messed up. I posted in the contam page (tho its likely not a contam at all) and i was told to increase FAE. I have no correct sized bins for dubtub so im getting a few tomorrow. Im just running a fan now. In the write up it said not to, but i seem to be getting fruit that are starved of FAE.

hopefully lots of overnight FAE will help at least. Im sure i can solve this problem by next flush. Seemed like a weird genetic mutation thing at first

I guess this being my first time and seeing flush 1 working well, i assumed it really was set and forget. And Dont worry about FC conditions. So i didnt. I guess one guideline of growing mushrooms is you always should check and adjust if "set and forget" is causing problems.

Lesson learned as far as the bag method. If only i was running a fan once an hour it would have been fine. I know the air in my room doesnt have too much "mobility"




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    #25602768 - 11/09/18 07:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Was my first time using a bag. I got it down, it seems

in the room im using, what it took was a small fan to make it circulate. I had holes already and even left it open at times. It seems* to me cubes like moving air.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25602769 - 11/09/18 07:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I plan on doing this Tek pretty much. But I just plan on keeping the lid on until colonized.. then flipping the lid to put into fruiting?

Or might just keep the lid flipped from as soon as I add the substrate in the shoebox? Reading your unmodified mono.. I'm safe to assume either one would really work..


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #25602791 - 11/09/18 07:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

People say to introduce FAE and such pretty fast but ive always been in the habit of letting the spawn run at least mostly finish.

However, im likely a few years behind when it comes to teks (used to all tubs, even just SGFC and what RR would recommend, but mostly pollyfill minitubs). So i had to learn about water treating bulk sub, as well as the bag method, and even just suddenly the lack of 6500k lights which were said to be pretty important (at least like 5000k) but now people use indirect sunlight it seems.

Things change, and seem to get easier, which is awesome. Im glad for everyone who took the time to experiment.

I recall when it was recommended to not experiment (also RR) and just stick exactly to the recipe
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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25604090 - 11/10/18 06:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I always let it colonize before I introduce FAE. I've tried both (not with an isolate but with a clone) and only noticed minimal difference. I decided to stick with the way that's worked for me for years and years.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25604956 - 11/10/18 06:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I always let it colonize before I introduce FAE. I've tried both (not with an isolate but with a clone) and only noticed minimal difference. I decided to stick with the way that's worked for me for years and years.




Same. What i do is wait for the first little pin. In my experience its not gonna happen before that anyway

I also stick to what ive learned, which is why i was hesitant to use this bag method. But now i see its fine if theres a fan


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25605725 - 11/11/18 01:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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People say to introduce FAE and such pretty fast but ive always been in the habit of letting the spawn run at least mostly finish.

However, im likely a few years behind when it comes to teks (used to all tubs, even just SGFC and what RR would recommend, but mostly pollyfill minitubs). So i had to learn about water treating bulk sub, as well as the bag method, and even just suddenly the lack of 6500k lights which were said to be pretty important (at least like 5000k) but now people use indirect sunlight it seems.

Things change, and seem to get easier, which is awesome. Im glad for everyone who took the time to experiment.

I recall when it was recommended to not experiment (also RR) and just stick exactly to the recipe
But i saw diff boards doing it differently



Yeah for sure man. You can clearly see I haven't been here for too long. I was doing a lot of research about things and noticed I was looking at threads that were created 13 years ago lol. Everything is so much more updated. So I'm trying to digest best convenient methods prior to last second haha.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #25606443 - 11/11/18 11:22 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone try this with a full size unmodified tub? Substitute the grocery bag for a trash bag.
Kinda dumb come to think of it. Probably wouldn't run out of headroom in a large tub.
I assume the only reason to do it would be if your lid went missing. Nevermind. Carry on.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25606626 - 11/11/18 03:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ive used cling wrap as an alternative for a top. Works great


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25614477 - 11/14/18 10:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

2.3L tubs of SUC with coir at 1:4, cased with verm. About 80% colonized.




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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: teladi]
    #25623913 - 11/19/18 03:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Followed this tek for very first grow.  1/2 pint BRF cakes (4 per shoebox), spawned with coir and verm using Bod's coir tek (needed the verm because I made it too wet not following directions to a T, duh).  Got 25g dry from the box I didn't almost spill, the other two were goofed up because of a little slip but still produced just only on half the substrate lol,  Got over 50g dry between the 3 boxes.  Super happy and learned a ton!  Thanks to everyone on this forum!


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: captmarc]
    #25627369 - 11/20/18 08:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Followed this tek for very first grow.  1/2 pint BRF cakes (4 per shoebox), spawned with coir and verm using Bod's coir tek (needed the verm because I made it too wet not following directions to a T, duh).  Got 25g dry from the box I didn't almost spill, the other two were goofed up because of a little slip but still produced just only on half the substrate lol,  Got over 50g dry between the 3 boxes.  Super happy and learned a ton!  Thanks to everyone on this forum!



For a first grow, sounds like much success.

I was debating if to take my cakes and prep them into a shoebox.. but I think I'm just going to ride them out as cakes.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #25634154 - 11/23/18 07:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

First 2 shoeboxes. I think they are toast. BRF spawned to coir 1:1 and 1:2. Using the bucket tek. So when I spawned these guys they smelled nice and shroomy. Broke them up and put them in a freshly cleaned shoebox on 11/21. Now they have a sour smell and the myc looks like mold. Toss or wait?



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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Atleastdoyourbest]
    #25634262 - 11/23/18 08:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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First 2 shoeboxes. I think they are toast. BRF spawned to coir 1:1 and 1:2. Using the bucket tek. So when I spawned these guys they smelled nice and shroomy. Broke them up and put them in a freshly cleaned shoebox on 11/21. Now they have a sour smell and the myc looks like mold. Toss or wait?






I haven't seen enough myc or mold to tell the difference, but I was just dealing with a terrible smelling shoebox a couple days ago. Smelled like fermenting yeast. Really gross, probably bacteria? I was about to throw it out this morning and decided to give it another smell. The fermentated yeast smell was gone and it smelled like mushrooms. Now I'm waiting for pins. I'd say if it's bacterial, you've got some time to see if it corrects itself. If it's mold get it out asap.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25634604 - 11/23/18 11:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man. I just read your question thread. Yours look like they are much further along than mine. Well here is my plan. Since it is just those 2 in that place I will wait 24 - 48 hours unless there is a major change. It almost smells like coir with a sour bite to it. But again i am not experienced. What worries me most is the look of the myc. IDK time to learn I guess.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Atleastdoyourbest]
    #25634733 - 11/24/18 12:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

My shoebox stunk since the day after I spawned it on November 17. The smell got worse and worse, but colonized fast. I didn't check on it for a couple days. Then I was checking on it today before thinking of throwing it out. Like I said, smell was totally gone. You might have to wait longer than a couple days for the smell to go away.
Here it is a minute ago:



If I had myc that looked like yours I wouldn't be worried, but I don't know much.

Oh also, is your substrate dry? Could just be the lighting or my untrained eye, but that coir looks like a desert.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25634949 - 11/24/18 02:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If I had myc that looked like yours I wouldn't be worried, but I don't know much.

Oh also, is your substrate dry? Could just be the lighting or my untrained eye, but that coir looks like a desert.




It is dry. I don't know why. It seemed to be at perfect field capacity. The lid is not on tight maybe that is it.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Atleastdoyourbest]
    #25635157 - 11/24/18 04:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Probably not the lid, guys leave lids cracked all the time. I'm guessing it was dry from the point it was mixed, or maybe baking in direct sunlight for a long time.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25635200 - 11/24/18 05:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well it is not in sunlight. I use led. Either way going to snap the lids and wait. Once pins arrive ill be missing 1 - 2 times per week. We will see.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25635688 - 11/24/18 04:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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My shoebox stunk since the day after I spawned it on November 17. The smell got worse and worse, but colonized fast. I didn't check on it for a couple days. Then I was checking on it today before thinking of throwing it out. Like I said, smell was totally gone. You might have to wait longer than a couple days for the smell to go away.
Here it is a minute ago:



If I had myc that looked like yours I wouldn't be worried, but I don't know much.

Oh also, is your substrate dry? Could just be the lighting or my untrained eye, but that coir looks like a desert.




Thats weird. It should just smell like mushies. Could be a small amount of bacteria that isnt enough to fuck up the tub. The myc looks decent to me

As far as dryness, seems right about average. Could use some water but doesnt seem dehydrated


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25636367 - 11/24/18 10:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was soaked earlier that day, big pools of water, especially in the corners. I increased fae, then thought I should fan it, then took a syringe and gently sucked up the pools. I couldn't leave it alone.

Lots of guys say they don't mist during the 1st flush, but I've been misting another shoebox (not pictured) that can't seem to keep droplets on the surface. One soaking wet, and one bone dry. I'll get the hang of this balancing act eventually. It seems like they're taking forever to pin as well. Not sure if that's my fault or not.

UPDATE: previously while trying to dry out the soaked sponge shoebox I opened the holes to the size of a pencil. It worked on drying it out a little too well. I got a new bag and made smaller pinholes. They seem to be working a lot better. Moral of the story, figure it out.


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: DonnyNeon]
    #25637511 - 11/25/18 01:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I dont mist i just throw a cup of water into the substrate, or a half cup. Whatever is needed. And i get rid of excess water after like 12-24hr


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25660594 - 12/06/18 07:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I dont mist i just throw a cup of water into the substrate, or a half cup. Whatever is needed. And i get rid of excess water after like 12-24hr




Funny you should mention that as I was contemplating that earlier. I'm at a point in the process where I feel that I should add some moisture to the substrate, but nervous to mess with them. When do you add the cup of water?


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    #25660604 - 12/06/18 07:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I dont mist i just throw a cup of water into the substrate, or a half cup. Whatever is needed. And i get rid of excess water after like 12-24hr




Funny you should mention that as I was contemplating that earlier. I'm at a point in the process where I feel that I should add some moisture to the substrate, but nervous to mess with them. When do you add the cup of water?



Typically shoeboxes are set and forget if you have field capacity correct at spawn. Don't fuck with it until you harvest or (maybe) during first flush.


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    #25661204 - 12/06/18 05:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well if you have a shoebox with a plastic bag, i would say fhats not as "set and forget" as a tub. Why? Because you cant see the fruit till theyre big enough to reach the plastic bag and ready for harvest. Also my first flush didnt get enough FAE cause the guide said no need for a fan basically. So with a tub i can pretty much set and forget for real. When its time to harvest or FAE is too low you can easily tell.

However this bag method is great for just super easy tubs without having to buy containers and make dubtubs and all that. I just wouldnt (personally) call it set and forget. IMO thats more a monotub/minitub. Shoeboxes ive been doing for years but just dubbing them.

So also, i noticed it would dry out much faster than inside a tub. Which is pretty obvious


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Fractal420]
    #25661464 - 12/06/18 08:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I should clarify - The OP mentioned adding water to the substrate. What I meant by "set and forget" was substrate water content when you have Field capacity correct at spawn.

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25663506 - 12/07/18 07:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How many cakes is it best to start with for this method?


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: butterflyaway]
    #25663521 - 12/07/18 07:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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How many cakes is it best to start with for this method?



This method uses grain but the third link in my sig uses cakes as spawn :thumbup:

Wether you're using grain or cakes as spawn you can use as much as you see fit, there is really no real standards really :thumbup:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Mateja]
    #25663524 - 12/07/18 07:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You can use any myc as spawn really.

Also, as far as grocery bags, i figured this whole tek is about the grocery bag thing. Otherwise its just a dubtub or minitub "shoebox" (which to me means a small sized container for sub). The grocery bag is what im referring to as the X factor. With tubs, yeah, def set and forget. The grocery bag thing is cool too. I just assumed itd involve less checking on the shroomies, rather than more

Its def a good tek when you have a bunch of spawn and youve already done a few bins with grocery bags and a fan running

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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: Mateja]
    #25663601 - 12/07/18 08:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!

I think I’ll start with one cake in the 2.5 quart 1:2 ratio.. :smile:


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Re: Bod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE [Re: butterflyaway]
    #25663617 - 12/07/18 08:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have a question

When you add your verm or coir whatever you add to your colonized grain (I use verm) it’s field capacity right?

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