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Invisibletripndicular
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Seeking "grain masters "
    #2527178 - 04/05/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone ever tried hemp seed in a wild bird mixture ?
I get my grains at a bird farm , no additives or such is ever added , all grain sold in bulk . This place is now selling hemp seed(1$ per lb) , and I was curious to know if any one has had luck using hemp as a delayed nute provider , seeing how hemp shell is so thick I figured it would act as a good delayed nute provider for some of the slower colonizing species , hell even the real swift ones for that matter .
Thanx for any input on the subject .
Trip n D


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2527289 - 04/05/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

too oily i hear. there are better grains more cheaply available.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: ]
    #2527346 - 04/05/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Folks use sunflower seed which is just as if not more oily(just softer shelled ) , is it not ?
But point well taken , thanx .
Rape seed is normally used by most .


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2527460 - 04/05/04 02:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you could try a good boil before pc/ing. some oil would most likely seperate from the boiled water and it would help with the hard shell dilemna.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2528340 - 04/05/04 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

in WBS you normally try and get out as much of the sunflower seeds as you can, as they contam easier.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2529808 - 04/06/04 12:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

forget the hemp seed idea. you can probably get it to work but not as good as popcorn or rye. hell, what can't these fungi grow on?

rye and perlite 70/30 kicks ass for spawn
it breaks up very nice..even if it gets left in the cupboard over-incubating for weeks.

g2g in 12 days with 1 shake at 30 percent
jars rule. bags suck. i need a flow hood then maybe i can do bags again..hmmm


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: rollbot]
    #2529982 - 04/06/04 02:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well theres no harm in trying. its always awesome when someone can find a new way to do something. maybe most the time the old technique does prove better, but theres always that chance that something could prove old methods wrong and work better.

isn't that the fun of growing, and this forum?

everyone knows how to grow the regular tried and true ways in this forum... it's simply interesting and fun to learn as much as we possibly can.

so i say go for it. see if you can figure out a way to get it to work. hell, who knows? maybe it colonizes faster than other grains. you just dont know until you try it.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2530196 - 04/06/04 02:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hemp grain, from FAQs

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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2531022 - 04/06/04 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

PS Did I mention I was not trying to get "weed shrooms" ? :whoa:
Just curious if anyone has tried this as a "delayed" nute provider , kinda like how 6T used to say rape seed was a good delayed nute provider , tried that method and had lots of contam problems . Sometimes confused the little black specs of rape as contams also .
Oh well like Psilly girl said ... Try it you might like it ! , well not exactally in those words but just the same .
Thanx all for the input !
Trip n D


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2532272 - 04/06/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh well like Psilly girl said ... Try it you might like it ! ,

everyones doing it...i promise you wont get pregnant....ohh i wont tell anyone...



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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: dobinky]
    #2533447 - 04/07/04 12:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

fine try it
but try growing it on straight sunflower seeds and i bet you'll have the same result.

as an addative maybe the oil would be a good addition to straw or is that just a myth?


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: rollbot]
    #2533537 - 04/07/04 01:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i was merely suggesting that he try it if he believed it might work, it doesnt hurt anything.

you are right about it probably being about as oily as sunflower seeds (which typically contam pretty easily... and are removed from WBS for that reason), but hey if he wants to, i said go for it cause its fun to experiment. experiments produce bad results most of the time in science, but the times they dont, its a wonderful and beneficial thing.

as per the additive thing-- i dont know for sure, but i doubt it.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2535647 - 04/07/04 04:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

coffee. a nut or seed or whatever the hell it is was a good experiment. sooo many pins i have a qt jar full, 3 dry of aborts about to make a 1.75L of psilohol or some chocolates..Hmmmm

anyone ever heard of storing your agar dishes under 100% mineral oil in the fridge to last forever?

use some of the dish then
spray with peroxide
or start one specifically to refridgerate for emergencys
and fill with mineral oil
re-glad wrap parafilm them
fridgerate forever
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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: rollbot]
    #2535661 - 04/07/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

addatives? i want to try this

http://www.frontiercoop.com/shop/merchan...ry_Code=bbbhssd

Guarana Seed Powder, 1 lb. package $20


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: rollbot]
    #2537262 - 04/08/04 12:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As far as storing agar goes, I don't know how useful the mineral oil is, I have never heard of that.  I work in an immunology lab and we usually just store agar petris in a fridge.  That seems to suffice, but then again I don't think we store them for as long term as you are implying.  And in my personal "lab" I usually do an agar transfer or streak the plate with spores no longer than a day or two after the agar solidifies, so I never worried about it.  What exactly does the mineral oil do?

As for the Guarana seed additive, I had never heard of this.  I looked up some stuff and wondered if you wanted to use these seeds because of their caffeine content.  "Guarana seed generally contains 8% tannins and 3.6% caffeine, a ratio 2.2 ( T/C )." from  here  Do you think the high tannin content might cause contam?  Or were you thinking of making an extract, which has a lower caffeine and tannin content?

Thanks
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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: Psilygirl]
    #2537305 - 04/08/04 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The mineral oil is for storing mycelium culture indefinately. I think the previous poster was just using the term agar to mean mycelium culture.


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: tripndicular]
    #2537597 - 04/08/04 01:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, an extract if you consider drinkable coffee to be an extract. guarana seed "coffee" for the hydration step is probably a bad idea...but like you said "theres no harm in trying"
we probably could nutralize any tannic acid with lime.

maybe just pure caffeine is something to try next.

i found it here for cheap -

http://www.aonevitamins.com/caffeine.htm

i think that the mineral oil just works
like an ultra barrier to contams


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Re: Seeking "grain masters " [Re: rollbot]
    #2537656 - 04/08/04 01:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, def. try it!!  :thumbup:

theres been a bunch of experiments with caffeine, in coffee and energy drinks and the like.  do a search and i'm sure you'll find stuff in advanced and in grow logs.

let us know if you try it and how it goes!

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