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OfflineJackal
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Does God Even Care Anymore?
    #2527122 - 04/05/04 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just suppose for a minute that God does exist and that the stories/teachings in the Christian bible are true. Do you think that God has forsaken us?

With the amount of sinning (relative to what is thought sinful in the bible) that we do, some of the time not even aware that we are doing it. Is it possible that he gave up on us long ago and has moved on to another project? (sorry couldn't think of a better word)

Reading the Bible, it's clear that God interacted with the mortals a lot more than he does today. Could this be another indication that he has left us to our own free will? And to what end?


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527133 - 04/05/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

those are big assumptions, not to be taken for granted.

I think this is what markos was talking about with "taking things literal."

why would god limit itself to one book?

why would god be busy judging us, especially since it knows what will happen?


I think sin isn't something that can be universal, especially since a lot of it has to do with morals and opinions.

if god really forgot about us...we wouldn't be here. that's what I think anyway, operating under these assumptions of course.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527137 - 04/05/04 12:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well it also says that jesus will be coming back with a sword. So i dont know what you want to do, or wait for. I think that has to do with the apocalypse. I think thats the end that was intended for us... well... so they say :wink:


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2527201 - 04/05/04 12:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

jesus is back....BUT HE"S PISSED OFFFFFFFFF


He's PACKIN!!!!




















get that freakin cross of yer neck!!!!  :grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527211 - 04/05/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Reading the Bible, it's clear that God interacted with the mortals a lot more than he does today. Could this be another indication that he has left us to our own free will? And to what end?



I think it is more of an indication that the bible is a collection of folklore and stories, not a historical account.
It's clear that dragons interacted with the mortals a lot more than they do today. Could this be an indication that dragons have left us?


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2527481 - 04/05/04 02:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

God threads always seem to die when I post in them. :confused:


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527497 - 04/05/04 02:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As far as sin goes, it always seemed to me that if Jesus died for our sins, if we lived blameless lives he would have died for nothing...


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: particlezen]
    #2527512 - 04/05/04 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

jesus died so that his followers could persecute in his name :nonono:


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2527750 - 04/05/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, I'd imagine if Jesus is around in any form, He's pretty pissed at all that.

As far as the amount of sinning -- "There's nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes.
These times are no worse and no better than times past -- we just get to hear more about it -- even when it comes to any definition of "sin."

I don't think God, however you might conceive of Him/Her/It/Them (or don't conceive of God) hasn't forsaken the world.


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2527759 - 04/05/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ChiefThunderbong said:
God threads always seem to die when I post in them. :confused:




Not this time Chief. Don't worry, sometimes i have the same feeling :wink: .....

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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527782 - 04/05/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."

Deuteronomy 31:8
The LORD himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."

Hebrews 13:5
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

1 Chronicles 28:9b
...for the LORD searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

2 Chronicles 24:20b
"This is what God says: 'Why do you disobey the LORD's commands? You will not prosper. Because you have forsaken the LORD, he has forsaken you.' "

Psalm 9:10
Those who know your name will trust in you,
for you, LORD , have never forsaken those who seek you.


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2527790 - 04/05/04 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. Do you think when Jesus comes back, he's ever gonna wanna see a fucking cross? It's kinda like going up to Jackie Onasis with a rifle pendant on. 'Just thinkin' of john, jackie, just thinkin' of john.'"

-A wise man, named Bill Hicks.


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527797 - 04/05/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

have you ever read something you wrote and thought "what the hell was I thinking when I wrote that?"

God thinks that when he reads the bible.


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2527823 - 04/05/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, well said.

Or "JESUS!"
"What Dad?"
"oh, sorry, I was just frustrated"
"I hate when you do that! Anyway - what?"
"They misquoted us a ton here. And that Paul asshole decided that your 'love one another' stuff really meant women had to wear hats and shut up."
"Aggh!" *sound of .44 magnum round being chambered.


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2527835 - 04/05/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Just suppose for a minute that God does exist and that the stories/teachings in the Christian bible are true. Do you think that God has forsaken us?




I don't think so. According to the bible, the world is entering now to what is called the end of times or apocalypse. Besides, if the story is true, he will go ahead till everything is finished, many will die, some will live and things will be like a paradise on earth.
Btw, when you die, don't forget to be buried near the 7th gate in Jerusalem. When judgement day happens, you'll be near gods court and you'll be judged in the morning, when he's in a better mood.

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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2527874 - 04/05/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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infidelGOD said: God thinks that when he reads the bible.




You crack me up.  Five shrooms :smile:


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2528026 - 04/05/04 04:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

remeber, God is not human.
his ways are not our ways.

yes he is there, yes he loves us, yes he wants all of us to be with him, in love and in spirit

but i think you mistake our assumption of time with what we think he should be doing with his...

he loves you... but he does have a macro plan for this existance.
your life may or may not be intertwined with that paln.

has he forgoten you, no... read the old or new testements.
there is gouing to be a resovle to this thing we know of as evil.

it may or may not be in our life times, thats not for us to question.
but if you belive, be watchful. also be prepared to speak to others who need reasurance & ministry. he already sent a solution a few thousand years back. get out the werd, because you may not have much time to witness...

as far as interaction with god goes... thats a hard one.
do you askfor guidence? do you listen when you hear it??

i used to be in a much more volitile spiritual state, things where weird on a daily basis, life was not good. i let go, started reading the bible daily. and i would see eye's in the clounds by the hundreds on a daily baisis...

glad that is over.
now i just need a job!


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Jackal]
    #2528050 - 04/05/04 04:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

god doesnt care

because he does care.

if he didnt care

then he would care.

get it?

:smile:


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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: DrWho]
    #2528127 - 04/05/04 04:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

there is gouing to be a resovle to this thing we know of as evil.

it may or may not be in our life times, thats not for us to question.





Yes, that resolve can happen within any individual who realizes that "good" and "evil" are oversimplifications, labels created by human ignorance.



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Re: Does God Even Care Anymore? [Re: Viveka]
    #2528204 - 04/05/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


I have always wondered why this is such a serious subject.

Why that one word "god" can start and end battles, hatred, love, kindness, diss beleif, and a milloin other things.

Do you know what I mean?

If some say there is nothing up there than why are we so protective of it.

I know what I mean. I can't expect everyone else to. You know?



Besides there will never be a correct answer, and no one will ever know until either, we kill eachother off. or Jesus Christ does come back to save the saved.

I suggest reading the Left Behind Series. They are actually very interesting.


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