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ehrlich reagent questions
    #25269632 - 06/15/18 09:44 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

So I bought some tabs on DNM, and, being skeptical of something procured from this source, I also bought Ehrlich and Marquis reagents. Until now, I had always relied on trusted friends to test their acid before I tried it, so I have no first-hand experience with this.

The Ehrlich test yielded a strong shade of purple, on the bluer side. The booklet that came with the kit suggests that LSD produces a richer, redder shade of purple. Is that just variations in lighting for the photos of the sample reactions, or are different shades of purple possible with Ehrlich? I tested some melatonin as a control, and it produced the exact same shade as the proported LSD.

(Marquis produced a slight yellow-orange, which also appears consistent with LSD. This appears to rule out DOx series, but it could still be one of the NBOMes with something added to fool Ehrlich)

Is it reasonably safe to put half of a tab in a gelcap and swallow it, since if it is an NBOMe it will be inactive or close to inactive via this ROA?

tl;dr - does Ehrlich always turn the same shade of purple in the presence of an indole? are people actually getting sold tabs of non-LSD with an indole-containing chemical added (melatonin, tryptophan, etc)?


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Re: ehrlich reagent questions [Re: YEM]
    #25269847 - 06/15/18 11:35 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Yes ehrlich isn't a fool proof method, it only tests for the presence of indoles which a lot of compounds that can fit on paper have, including the RC lysergamides ALD52, 1P-LSD, AL-LAD and ETH-LAD are also more commonly sold as "LSD" and could also turn color on Ehrlich, let alone some of the other Rcs.

I'd say the safest thing to do would be to micro-dose a small corner of the paper that way if it is a harmful RC you won't get enough in you to harm yourself. LSD has a specific duration and time-line. Chip off what should be ~20 micrograms and it should take a good 2 hours to fully feel, and should have a general stimulation and enhancement for ~8 to 10 hours

But even then it could still be 1P-LSD and ALD52, but they are similar to LSD-25, and pretty much same safety, it'd be better than getting something else, but most likely it's real LSD you can never know unless you have a lab test though.


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Re: ehrlich reagent questions [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #25348489 - 07/26/18 04:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks. I obtained a small amount of "known" LSD from a friend and tested it. As I suspected, Ehrlich does not just produce a purple/not purple result.

Real LSD (or possibly an analogue bc who really knows at this point) will initially turn pink and then gradually darken to purple. After a few minutes, it will be a pinkish purple.

I have two different batches of fake tabs that turn a bluer purple immediately. Tested some melatonin, and it reacted exactly the same.

Seems to me that dealers are getting wise to Ehrlich and laying some melatonin, tryptophan, or other cheap and available indoles to "fool" the test.


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Re: ehrlich reagent questions [Re: YEM]
    #25348493 - 07/26/18 04:39 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I also placed a quarter of a tab in a gelcap and swallowed it. It still had an effect. I'm not 100% convinced that that rules out NBMOEs, but I didn't enjoy it anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.


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Re: ehrlich reagent questions [Re: YEM]
    #25348499 - 07/26/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and I should mention I tested with Marquis and Mandellin as well. Both of these appeared to rule out DOx chemicals, however I was unable to determine if it's an NBMOe or 2C-x.

After a lot of experience testing though, once you learn to recognize the pink-->purple reaction with Ehrlich, that is all you need to be reasonably sure it's LSD or an analogue.


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Re: ehrlich reagent questions [Re: YEM]
    #25348645 - 07/26/18 06:07 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I swallowed a tab of nbome and didn't feel anything so I'd say you can safely rule that out.


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