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Can coir contaminate?
#25265620 - 06/13/18 12:44 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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cubes in monos on rye.
I grow in a less than sterile area. I always remember RR saying that if the spawn is clean, when you set up your substrate, you can sneeze on the surface, no problem.
But is that really true? I'm feeling like my high spore load (Ive had bad mold outbreaks in my space) is hard on the coir, before it gets fully colonized.
Wouldn't the best practice be to be as near sterile as possible with the monotub until fully colonized?
sincerely, trich farmer extraordinare
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: bodhisatta]
#25265813 - 06/13/18 02:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, but how often do we leave coir in a container that is sweating because its 5 degrees warmer than the room air. Its a little mold making environ, those monos are.
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I agree. Spore load must matter, and I know I got it bad. I've cleaned, but its been crazy in here a few times. Which means that closer to sterile is a thing, not imaginary.
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: tedoro]
#25265827 - 06/13/18 02:23 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Too small of a sample, but I recently did three tubs identical... cased with coir immediately with all of them. First one I taped all the holes. The other two I had varying degrees of stuffing. Both the stuffed tubs molded. the taped up one was fine. After a week I have it untaped and stuffed. Looking good.
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: Tormato]
#25266259 - 06/13/18 05:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I realize bad spawn is what it sounds like. But my bags grow out beautiful, from perfect petri plates, 4 quart bags in 10 days. I'm confident.
If a dirty room is completely harmless, why do we remove a moldly tub? A heavy spore load is more likely than a light spore load to contaminate. I'd bet $5 on that. I also grow on the floor (long story)... this multiplies the problem. Its there or no growing for me at all.
So I just bought a mini greenhouse and will mix up my monos in there carefully, tape them up and keep them in my not so clean area with the fans off for the first few weeks. I'll report back with my results.
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: Ziran]
#25266558 - 06/13/18 07:30 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heres what I'm proposing. Warm, moist uncolonized coir gets mold spores landing on it because its open to the room via loosely stuffed holes and they grow and contaminate the coir. So if the coir is somewhat protected from nasty spores when its uncolonized, it is less likely to go bad. Is this crazy to think? Remember, this isn't the same as having room temp coir waiting in a bucket. This is coir in a warm monotub that is sweating on its walls and surfaces.
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: Mycolorado]
#25266911 - 06/13/18 11:08 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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What do you mean? 3,2,1?
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: Kizzle]
#25267917 - 06/14/18 01:17 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ths is exactly what I'm planning on doing. I've been too casual, cause I see people leveling the substrate with their bare hands in teks. For some reason, I gotta be cleaner.
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Re: Can coir contaminate? [Re: Ziran]
#25268077 - 06/14/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm proposing that my room air is dirty. so its more than hand washing. I've been using gloves.
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