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Bufo Alvarius Season * 1
    #25263269 - 06/12/18 09:35 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone here Catch, Milk & Release Bufo Alvarius (aka Sonoran Desert Toad, Colorado River Toad)? The monsoon season is almost here. I'm lookin forward to my first season milking and first DMT experience. If anyone has done this, any advice or overlooked details would be appreciated. I'm gonna list some of the points I learned below to avoid a wall of text.

There aren't many look-alikes, other toads are smaller, no yellow marks. Alvarius is up to 8", yellow marks, very pronounced venom glands on neck and limbs.

Can't bring my dog, the venom is strong enough to kill pets.

Spotlighting "stuns" these toads making them easy to gently collect.

Glands on the neck and limbs are milked by squeezing the venom out onto glass. It kinda shoots out, careful to keep out of eyes and mouth.

After venom dries, it's scraped and smoked as is. No prep required. Large dose is the size of a match head.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker]
    #25263340 - 06/12/18 10:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Dude get some root bark and extract some dmt.

No need to exploit and harm innocent toads.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Pluviophile]
    #25263345 - 06/12/18 10:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Where do you get exploit & harm from? You don't kill them, just take some venom and release.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker]
    #25265325 - 06/13/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I would love to.. Sonoran desert its very close to me (around a 2 hours ride i think) but i dont have a car or a bud willing to go to find the toad:feelssadman:.

Edited by ADCC420 (06/13/18 12:14 PM)

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: ADCC420] * 1
    #25265338 - 06/13/18 10:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Dude I live on the Colorado river Sonoran desert. Got a pic of this toad? I see many types before during and after rain. Also how does one get the venom? Share some knowlage I'll share what I get lol


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Hoodafucisdat] * 2
    #25265356 - 06/13/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude I live on the Colorado river Sonoran desert. Got a pic of this toad? I see many types before during and after rain. Also how does one get the venom? Share some knowlage I'll share what I get lol




https://erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/index.htm

all the info is in there brother:heart:.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: ADCC420]
    #25265360 - 06/13/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Wish I lived in the area. Sounds like so much fun with a cool reward. Only toads in my area just fill you with regret if you lick em.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Phinieo] * 2
    #25265499 - 06/13/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude I live on the Colorado river Sonoran desert. Got a pic of this toad? I see many types before during and after rain. Also how does one get the venom? Share some knowlage I'll share what I get lol




If you google it you'll see plenty of Pics. ADCC put up a good link to. These are the toads that they warn you about with pets, big (8") and fat, yellow marks on body. You just squeeze the poison out of the glands onto glass, then release the toad. Everything I've found on it is pretty straight forward.


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Wish I lived in the area. Sounds like so much fun with a cool reward. Only toads in my area just fill you with regret if you lick em.




DO NOT LICK. These are poisonous and can cause problems, definately kills pets every year. You smoke the dry poison for the effect. Licking is an old rumor.

I think part of the fun is goin out to catch them with friends for sure, and they're only around for 2-3 months, so maybe i'll make it a fun summer tradition.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #25265504 - 06/13/18 12:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you adcc420 good info. Appreciate it


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: ADCC420] * 2
    #25267471 - 06/14/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Adcc420 dude I've seen those toads. When I milk some ill send or bring u a bit. Thanks a lot man some people don't share information that sucks. Your way cool man thanks


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Hoodafucisdat] * 1
    #25267490 - 06/14/18 09:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Adcc420 dude I've seen those toads. When I milk some ill send or bring u a bit. Thanks a lot man some people don't share information that sucks. Your way cool man thanks




:hug:



Have a good one brother:heart::vibin:!!

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker]
    #25271001 - 06/15/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Where do you get exploit & harm from? You don't kill them, just take some venom and release.




Less harmful than fishing! :grin:

Dont forget your glass pane!

Would love to try but i dont live in Colorado. Yet another awesome part of Colorado.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25271699 - 06/16/18 08:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

That's what I'm thinkin man, this is pretty gentle on the Toads. First rains are here, should see them any day.

Are these as far north as Colorado? I think they got the name from the river, which runs south into Mexico through Sonora. The typical range I've seen is parts of SoCal, AZ, South Nevada, West New Mexico, and most of Sonora Mexico.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #25271718 - 06/16/18 08:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Oh yeah today it's going to rain I'm off to locate some Bufo. Lt. lurker thank you too man. No laws here so no problems either. I'm shure I can find 20 or more in a day here. I'm on the river. I wonder how much each will yeild?


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Hoodafucisdat]
    #25271725 - 06/16/18 08:26 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

And I hear Bufo are in Florida now weird I would think the alkaline region would be the cause of the venom. Like realated to diet


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Hoodafucisdat]
    #25271754 - 06/16/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome man good luck. I can't remember average yield per toad, i think it was in the link ADCC shared. Couple doses worth I think

Florida could have them, I know they have Cane Toads which are more tropical, very poisonous and no dmt. Lots of invasive species seem to do well there. Alvarius is a desert animal though, underground for 9-10 months of the year. Wonder if it behaves different in florida.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker]
    #25271787 - 06/16/18 09:09 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I seen a warning sign for pets was in Florida about Bufo so makes me think still active. Ya underground lots of sand there maybe still possible. Maybe the venom would be different too, diet difference and wetter climate I don't think alkaloids production would be the same. All my life I've mistaken the Bufo for a different spade foot toad. Lol missed on some space trips damn. Lol


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: Hoodafucisdat]
    #25271838 - 06/16/18 09:38 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'm tryin to look it up but I can only find Info on Cane Toads(Bufo Marina) in Florida. Share where you see this cause if they are in Florida I know some people that will want to know. Remember Bufo is the Genus for all Toads, Alvarius is the species for Sonoran Desert Toad.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: LtLurker]
    #25316374 - 07/09/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Please just leave the toads alone. The desert ecosystems are fractured and cut up as much as humanly possible, isolating specific populations of toads, tortoises, cougar, etc in very small and cut off wilderness areas. Wild Lands project is actually buying up BLM desert in California at least and posting it all as private land for wildlife corridors between designated wilderness, which is a good thing except they cut me off from the Orocopia mts and the botryoidal fluorite deposit there. The toads need the toxins in their glands to keep from being eaten by predators such as raccoons, snakes, cats etc. If you take their venom from them, you might be condemning them to a defenseless death. Not something you want to think about while tripping on their venom unless you're a sociopath and don't care about anything but yourself. I would have a better trip taking mushrooms and visiting the toad's habitat. The last thing we need are thousands of hipsters hunting toads like what happened to the once plentiful peyote cactus, not that the Texan farmers are innocent or anything.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Season [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #25316418 - 07/09/18 09:08 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Now you gotta watch out for the Bufo Alvarius Defense.

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