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What is the best Agar recipe
    #25261624 - 06/11/18 01:53 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I was thinking about using this Agar recipe. AGAR recipe: 10 grams of Malt Extract, 2 teaspoons of powder potatoes, 9 grams of Agar Agar, and 1 teaspoon of honey or 1 gram of yeast, 500ml of water. 1 Gram of activated charcoal. Do you think that is a good recipe?
Also, is it ok I use a PC that only holds (4)  4oz quarter pint jars and then stack 4 more agar jars on top of them and then PC or should I only PC the 4 bottom jars at one time?
Thank You in advance


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: wilspeak]
    #25261694 - 06/11/18 02:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

i've tinkered around with different recipes and have decided that 3% malt extract and 2% agar agar to 95% water is my favorite.

what a tiny pressure cooker you have. i'd try stacking them but make sure the top jars aren't over 50% full. agar likes to violently boil and you top jars might boil over due to them cooling faster because the lack of thermal mass

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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
    #25263285 - 06/12/18 09:46 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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i've tinkered around with different recipes and have decided that 3% malt extract and 2% agar agar to 95% water is my favorite.

what a tiny pressure cooker you have. i'd try stacking them but make sure the top jars aren't over 50% full. agar likes to violently boil and you top jars might boil over due to them cooling faster because the lack of thermal mass



Hello verum subsequentis, Thank You for the information. This is the type of PC that I have. it'S A OLDER MODEL >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Mirro-Aluminum-4-2-Quart-Pressure-Cooker/dp/B00002N5ZN


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: wilspeak]
    #25263359 - 06/12/18 10:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

wow, that thing is tiny. you'll probably want to get a presto 23 quart at some point but that thing will work for small batches. i haven't done enough tests yet to absolutely confirm but the rumor is that if the water level isn't up to the agar level you'll experience boil over due to the agar cooling faster than it's surrounding environment. obviously, your bottom layer could be in enough water but your top layer would be completely out of the water. i'd try it but be sure that your top layer of jars isn't too full (50% or so).

    actually, what are you trying to accomplish? are you planning to pour from jars or use them as no pour/pasty plates? if no pour is the route you are going then you'll be fine stacking them because the jars will only have a quarter to half inch of agar in them. i've stacked little mason jars with a tiny bit of agar in them four layers high in my all american and sterilized them all just fine.

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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: verum subsequentis] * 2
    #25263416 - 06/12/18 11:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Most peoples goal with agar is actually to limit the amount of nutrients in it to encourage mycelium to expand outward in search of them. It seems your line of thinking is that you're wanting to make it as nutritious as possible. It's not necessary since agar dishes aren't meant for fruiting. If you want to experiment with ingredients, your best bet would be to alternate them. Meaning you germinate the spores on a pda dish, then transfer them to an mea dish, etc etc. You can stick with established recipes that way.

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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: boom boom]
    #25267392 - 06/14/18 08:16 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hello boom boom, Thank You


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25267398 - 06/14/18 08:19 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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wow, that thing is tiny. you'll probably want to get a presto 23 quart at some point but that thing will work for small batches. i haven't done enough tests yet to absolutely confirm but the rumor is that if the water level isn't up to the agar level you'll experience boil over due to the agar cooling faster than it's surrounding environment. obviously, your bottom layer could be in enough water but your top layer would be completely out of the water. i'd try it but be sure that your top layer of jars isn't too full (50% or so).

    actually, what are you trying to accomplish? are you planning to pour from jars or use them as no pour/pasty plates? if no pour is the route you are going then you'll be fine stacking them because the jars will only have a quarter to half inch of agar in them. i've stacked little mason jars with a tiny bit of agar in them four layers high in my all american and sterilized them all just fine.




Hello erum subsequentis , I took a look at that 23 quart PC that you suggested and its exactly what I need, But I just ordered a new 6 quart PC from amazon, I should return it.  This is what I need for Agar and WBS and BRF. I cant do that with a small PC like you mentioned. Thank You. >>>>  http://www.healthycanning.com/wp-content/uploads/double-decking.jpg


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: wilspeak]
    #25267531 - 06/14/18 09:59 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

that's probably the cutest picture i've ever seen. ah, it's silly what this hobby does to your brain.

Yes, double decking your canning is the shizzle fo rizzle. shit, i quadruple deck my grain bags and i think once i did five or six layers of pasty plates

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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25272794 - 06/16/18 05:12 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I just double stacked my half pint agar jars in my old 4 quart PC , the new 6 quart has not arrived yet.


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: boom boom]
    #25281627 - 06/20/18 06:16 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I just got the new 6 quart PC and I am thinking about returning it because its just as small as the 4 quart. I am going with the 23 quart that you suggested thank you


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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: boom boom]
    #26607094 - 04/17/20 01:22 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Most peoples goal with agar is actually to limit the amount of nutrients in it to encourage mycelium to expand outward in search of them. It seems your line of thinking is that you're wanting to make it as nutritious as possible. It's not necessary since agar dishes aren't meant for fruiting. If you want to experiment with ingredients, your best bet would be to alternate them. Meaning you germinate the spores on a pda dish, then transfer them to an mea dish, etc etc. You can stick with established recipes that way. 




Bumping this for the benefit of other intermediate cultivators.  This line just changed my world.

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Re: What is the best Agar recipe [Re: OldManRiver]
    #26607249 - 04/17/20 05:23 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, all those small PCs are crap if you're willing to pursue that hobby. I used to work with a 9l PC for a long time and it's just painful to use. Always figuring out how to stuff everything in.


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