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Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police?
#25260996 - 06/11/18 07:38 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not writing the whole story out (I woke up and can't get back to sleep - I'd like to try for more soon. Please excuse any errors and ask for clarification)
I've been at this farm nearly every day for months now. By chance, I wasn't at the farm for two consecutive days. The night the thieves decided to do this was either may 26-28 (most likely may 26 - 27), so I can't give an exact date on when this happened. But based on the way the barn looks, etc., some people came to my family's farm, stole the barn wood doors, towed an old datsun from the 80's out of the stable with my dad's tractor, found a forklift attachment for the tractor and used it to haul planks of wood out from behind the datsun.
Note the stack of wood in the back and how the tallest part of the pile is the middle - they stole a lot of wood from both sides of the pile.


They basically hauled as much wood out of the front with the tractor and forklift as they could, until they banged the tractor up against the wood up top, damaging the muffler. So they went around to the back, towed a disk that was blocking another set of doors and began to steal more planks.

Within a week, two guys are arrested after trying to sell the distinct barnwood doors to a place that buys wood. (They also told the buyer that they had more planks of wood they could sell him). They were both charged with receiving stolen property under $10,000, a class D felony, along with a few drug charges.
After they were arrested, I was told by my parents that the police would search both of these guys' farms to find the rest of the wood, but nothing came of it. No search was ever made by the police.
One of the guys is a family friend and sent my mom a facebook message apologizing, giving her a blatantly bullshit story that she wants to believe. (In his message, he also basically admits to trespassing at the farm and stealing the doors - not the wood. Aren't these two more potential charges?) At first, this guy wasn't cooperating. The other guys wasn't and still hasn't.
This happened a week ago and all of this wood is currently either at these guys' houses or burnt/sold as soon as they made bail. I'm planning on talking to the cops today. What should I say/do? I don't necessarily more charges (even though I have an admission of guilt from guy #1 of trespassing and theft of property under $10,000), but I do want the thousands of dollars in wood my grandfather and great uncle milled. I'm also pissed off that the police didn't get a search warrant to find the rest of it when they had every reason to do so.
Edited by Anonymous (06/11/18 07:55 AM)
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25261052 - 06/11/18 08:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Chances are, you'll never see the wood or the money again. You could make sure the guys that stole it eat legal shit by cooperating, and there's a slightly better chance that you'll get the money back if you cooperate with the police, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I'd just plan on congratulating the police on the house party and strippers your stolen wood is gonna pay for as soon as they bust the guys.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Kryptos]
#25261106 - 06/11/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You could make sure the guys that stole it eat legal shit by cooperating, and there's a slightly better chance that you'll get the money back if you cooperate with the police, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I'm not sure what you mean. I can't make them cooperate, I can only potentially add on more charges or talk to the police and get them to get a search warrant. i also want to add that I don't like cops and don't like bureaucracies, but it feels like these guys should have more charges thrown at them and have a search warrant to find the rest of the wood. If more people are involved, I want to know and I don't want them near this farm.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25261131 - 06/11/18 09:22 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Again, your options are to talk to the cops and see if you can get the police to buttfuck these guys a little more or not. It's a pretty safe assumption that your wood, and any profits off said wood, are gonna become "pertinent evidence" which you can't have back until after the case, which is gonna be a few years, and then you'll have to prove it's your money. Otherwise, the cops get a donation. In recent years, such "donations" have surpassed the value of all the property stolen in the US.
If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't waste my time. I'm not particularly vengeful, and police more than likely won't return your property. I'd rather forget about it all and move on instead of wasting a day with bureaucracy. If you really wanna stick it to these guys enough to waste a day giving statements and otherwise interacting with cops, go ahead.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Kryptos]
#25261256 - 06/11/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Again, your options are to talk to the cops and see if you can get the police to buttfuck these guys a little more or not. It's a pretty safe assumption that your wood, and any profits off said wood, are gonna become "pertinent evidence" which you can't have back until after the case, which is gonna be a few years, and then you'll have to prove it's your money.
No. I already picked up the barn doors back from the evidence locker. They only wanted pictures and measurements of them.
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If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't waste my time. I'm not particularly vengeful, and police more than likely won't return your property. I'd rather forget about it all and move on instead of wasting a day with bureaucracy. If you really wanna stick it to these guys enough to waste a day giving statements and otherwise interacting with cops, go ahead.
The police have returned my property. Within two weeks. If they're pushed to do their job and they actually find the wood, why should I believe they won't return it this time?
and surprisingly, I've made zero statements. These cops are retarded.
and yeah, I am a bit vengeful. I'm moving onto this property, so it's unsettling that someone would steal from it. and #2, I have a strong sentimental attachment to this farm and this stable. I used to go in and out of those doors with my now deceased great uncle and put the potatoes we picked in that stable. #3, I would be pissed if someone could do something this fucking unethical, give a bullshit apology to my mom, keep the thousands of dollars of stolen wood, plea down to a misdemeanor and pay off their court fines with the money from 1/4 the pile of black walnut they stole.
Edited by Anonymous (06/11/18 10:56 AM)
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25261266 - 06/11/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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edit: repost
Edited by Anonymous (06/11/18 10:40 AM)
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25262263 - 06/11/18 07:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's so weird. I would of never thought to rip planks of wood off a barn. I mean how much is a plank worth? Do people use them in home decorum or to build old look buildings? Where you able to recover the wooden planks they sold? It's my uunderstanding the company that purchased them would have to return them since they are stolen. I know pawn shops lose money from that all the time.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Crispy224]
#25262964 - 06/12/18 05:46 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea even in cases like this the cops only care about arrest numbers, stuff that looks good on their performance reviews, etc. They don't care about you getting your shit back or being made whole
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: paradoxlost]
#25263413 - 06/12/18 11:10 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Be lucky they didnt blame it on a hurricane and then throw you in a nuthouse for schizophrenia thinking everyones out to steal from you
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Crispy224]
#25266462 - 06/13/18 06:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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paradoxlost said: yea even in cases like this the cops only care about arrest numbers, stuff that looks good on their performance reviews, etc. They don't care about you getting your shit back or being made whole
It'd look great for their performance review if they recovered a few extra thousand in stolen property.
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Crispy224 said: That's so weird. I would of never thought to rip planks of wood off a barn. I mean how much is a plank worth? Do people use them in home decorum or to build old look buildings? Where you able to recover the wooden planks they sold? It's my uunderstanding the company that purchased them would have to return them since they are stolen. I know pawn shops lose money from that all the time.
Meth is a thing here and people want money for it. Weathered wood is becoming a profitable and popular item.
I recovered the doors; not the wood planks.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25266637 - 06/13/18 08:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said:
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paradoxlost said: yea even in cases like this the cops only care about arrest numbers, stuff that looks good on their performance reviews, etc. They don't care about you getting your shit back or being made whole
It'd look great for their performance review if they recovered a few extra thousand in stolen property.
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Crispy224 said: That's so weird. I would of never thought to rip planks of wood off a barn. I mean how much is a plank worth? Do people use them in home decorum or to build old look buildings? Where you able to recover the wooden planks they sold? It's my uunderstanding the company that purchased them would have to return them since they are stolen. I know pawn shops lose money from that all the time.
Meth is a thing here and people want money for it. Weathered wood is becoming a profitable and popular item.
I recovered the doors; not the wood planks.
What's better than recovering stolen property? Recovering unclaimed money. Even if you have to make it hard to claim. That way, you get to keep it and pay out a bonus to the troops.
I'm still somewhat convinced that's why you haven't required the wood planks. I'm also a little paranoid when it comes to the law, so, take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Kryptos]
#25269910 - 06/15/18 12:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're implying that the cops may have an incentive to keep the planks?
Maybe so.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25270295 - 06/15/18 03:15 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said: You're implying that the cops may have an incentive to keep the planks?
Maybe so.
They have a massive incentive to keep the planks. It's called "civil asset forfeiture". Their incentive to keep the planks is directly related to the value of the planks, and how much they want to put that value into their own pockets.
Basically, they could legally sell the planks and then use the proceeds to fund themselves. If the wood is valuable enough that the time spent selling it is worth the value of the wood (since there's no cost to obtain it), I'd tell OP to fuck off and try to sue me if I was a cop who found his planks. Then I'd just hope OP ran out of legal money for lawyers before I had to cough up.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Kryptos]
#25345463 - 07/25/18 02:19 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So, how did this turn out?
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
#25348890 - 07/26/18 08:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cops did nothing. Didn't get the wood back. Guy who is family friends with my mom is out on pre-trial diversion. I don't know about the other guy.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25351385 - 07/27/18 10:35 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm surprised they don't have to pay back restitution as apart of their charges even if they get time over it. From what I've seen, it's pretty standard in NY especially if they get a reduction of charge or probation instead.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: keyohnah]
#25351504 - 07/28/18 12:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Besides stealing the barnwood, they damaged the tractor, parts of the barn, and stole other shit. I cannot wrap my head around how they got out of this (or at least one guy) with only a pre-trial diversion and court fees.
Their court fees could be easily be paid off with the stolen wood. I probably spent more time driving to the evidence locker, driving to the police station, and sorting out this mess than they spent in court or booking.
No one thought the people who did this would be caught and now that they are caught, they experienced nearly zero repercussions.
Considering how harsh the the prison system, court system, and police are/can be, they all failed to deliver a modicum of justice to this scenario. I don't exactly want anyone to experience the USA's prisons, but restitution, community service, and/or drug counseling would all be reasonable.
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Re: Someone stole barn wood from farm - How do I deal with police? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25351537 - 07/28/18 12:41 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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In NY state, from what I've seen, they'd at the very least get drug treatment (if they stated addiction as the cause of their action) along with diversion court or probation and restitution.
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