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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: LtLurker]
    #25279912 - 06/20/18 12:02 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I have the supplies, but not exactly set up yet.  See, I bought all my shit before I even found this place.  I think I got some stuff that wasn't exactly necessary, like four cubic feet of perlite for example. lol  Now that I've read through various teks and threads here, I would ideally opt to do it bulk-style with coco coir and maybe some horse manure.  I feel obligated to use this SHITLOAD of perlite I bought now. xD  Although, I may just cut my losses.

Also, I was thinking I may do each cake in its own 3-liter bottle until I have a grasp on the whole deal.  I realize this is not ideal, but seems safer?  If the cakes finish consolidation with no problems, I may still do bulk.  Idk yet.  So, yeah...  To get back to your question; I have my supplies, but I'm not really set up quite yet.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25279928 - 06/20/18 12:11 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I get ya. Bulk's good and all, but in my opinion it's like putting all your eggs in 1 basket. 1 bad jar makes the whole thing sour quick, over saturate or dry out the sub and you'll have problems

SGFC's are cool for keepin cakes seperate while learning and will give you a use for that perlite, but you will put a million holes in a tub making it hard to use for much else after that.

:shrug: I enjoyed the individual cakes and learned a lot that way, but there's not really a "right" way.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: LtLurker]
    #25279980 - 06/20/18 12:47 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, exactly.  Thanks for the insight. :thumbup::thumbup:

By the way, what is that cactus you've got in your signature?  I see a bunch of users with cacti pics.  I assume it's some kinda mescaline deal?  You guys growing that shit?


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25280382 - 06/20/18 09:03 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

San Pedro, eh?  I thought peyote was the only active cactus. :eek:  That is very interesting...


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25280571 - 06/20/18 11:27 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry I went to bed last night bro. Yea these are San Pedros, or different Trichocereus Species. They contain a little less mescaline than Peyote, but grow faster and are legal to own in the states.

Check out the EthnoBotanical section. Lots of cool plants grows in there.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: LtLurker]
    #25280682 - 06/20/18 12:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Oh, no worries.  I had to go and look into it myself.  Guess this is the shit I'm gonna be reading about today!


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25281926 - 06/20/18 10:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE: DAY 12

Everything is going great still.  There is one thing that has me wondering, however.  One of the five remaining jars still has only one mycelium spot.  It seems to be developing just fine, but it's just from that one injection.  I wonder how far along that will develop if there isn't any growth in the other injection locations...



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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25282034 - 06/20/18 11:05 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

If the jar is clean enough it'll colonize the whole thing. Just takes a little longer.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: LtLurker]
    #25283744 - 06/21/18 06:56 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

You were most certainly correct about that, Lt.  That one spot is really reaching now.

UPDATE: DAY 13

The largest mycelium has grown to just about the entire vertical height of the BRF mix.  Seems like just a few days now until the consolidation phase!



Now I'm wondering about how much yield I can expect per jar...


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25283808 - 06/21/18 07:31 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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UPDATE: DAY 12

Everything is going great still.  There is one thing that has me wondering, however.  One of the five remaining jars still has only one mycelium spot.  It seems to be developing just fine, but it's just from that one injection.  I wonder how far along that will develop if there isn't any growth in the other injection locations...





I ran out of spore juice on my last jar and only hit one point and it was the first to colonize out of the bunch.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Cjmckay]
    #25283831 - 06/21/18 07:45 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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spore juice



:bigyesnod:
ha ha spore juice i love it lol

And to answer your question on yield man I'm not sure what to tell you cause it can vary so much dependent on so many factors. Some people have gotten a crap ton and some have got jack squat. My last single cake flush i only got 22 grams wet... which is like nothing lol. I'm sure there is something some where giving you an estimate but it really can depend on so much its hard to really say


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Opticz]
    #25283886 - 06/21/18 08:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Cjmckay said:I ran out of spore juice on my last jar and only hit one point and it was the first to colonize out of the bunch.




Hah, that's pretty neat. xD

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Opticz said:And to answer your question on yield man I'm not sure what to tell you cause it can vary so much dependent on so many factors. Some people have gotten a crap ton and some have got jack squat. My last single cake flush i only got 22 grams wet... which is like nothing lol. I'm sure there is something some where giving you an estimate but it really can depend on so much its hard to really say




I figured.  Besides the dunking and rolling, do you guys know of any method to get some more growth out of your cakes?  Maybe some kinda fertilizer or food or something.  I was wondering how the fuck the fruit continue to get sustenance after the mycelium have consumed all the BRF.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25283929 - 06/21/18 08:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know of any way to fertilize but i know if you spawn it to bulk the average is 70g from one cake on the first flush. Or at least that what people have been saying, i'm doing my first BRF to bulk as we speak so I will let you know what my yield is on my first flush!


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25283981 - 06/21/18 08:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

The cakes aren't giving me much at all. Only a couple small ones here and there. I only tried 2 and put the rest in shoeboxes.
The dark purple color of the syringes made me think juice.
I just weighed the dried ones from the second box and it's about 25g. 4 cakes went into that one. It's got a few growing here in 2nd flush but not near as many.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Cjmckay]
    #25284017 - 06/21/18 09:09 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm...

Definitely need to move to bulk style.  Before I put all my cards on the table, however, I wanna at least secure spores/wedges of my own.

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Opticz said:i'm doing my first BRF to bulk as we speak so I will let you know what my yield is on my first flush!




Good luck, dude!  That's pretty exciting.  What's your process like after consolidation?

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Cjmckay said:I just weighed the dried ones from the second box and it's about 25g. 4 cakes went into that one. It's got a few growing here in 2nd flush but not near as many.




25g dry from 4 cakes done bulk style in a shoebox?  I have to admit, all this jargon can be a little confusing.  I'm still researching the ins and outs of different teks.  But anyway, 25g from 4 cakes sounds pretty decent.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: MegaSuperLionheart]
    #25284039 - 06/21/18 09:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Good luck, dude!  That's pretty exciting.  What's your process like after consolidation?







Once my jars are 100% colonized I shredded them i didn't let them consolidate. You don't want them to use up all the BRF is what my understanding was of it. But you just shred the cake up using a cheese grater and add it to some Coir\Verm mix and mix it up. After that let it sit. It takes longer for sure but everyone so far says it yields better. I spawned my first one on 6\5 and i'm just now seeing pins well the last few days. But i have another that i spawned on 6\12 and its already pinning so it just depends i guess. Its a lot easier imo than the SGFC only because you don't really have to mess with them.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Opticz]
    #25284044 - 06/21/18 09:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Read up on this thread if you already haven't

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24945782


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    #25284083 - 06/21/18 09:46 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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25g dry from 4 cakes done bulk style in a shoebox?  I have to admit, all this jargon can be a little confusing.  I'm still researching the ins and outs of different teks.  But anyway, 25g from 4 cakes sounds pretty decent.



That's why I did the shoeboxes. Pretty much any size clear plastic container and coir. Everything else was too confusing or too much work for my dumbass. That thread opticz linked is the reason I went for it. It's kind of set it and forget it.


25g dried after these guys came out of the dehydrator.


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Cjmckay]
    #25284109 - 06/21/18 10:08 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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That's why I did the shoeboxes. Pretty much any size clear plastic container and coir. Everything else was too confusing or too much work for my dumbass. That thread opticz linked is the reason I went for it. It's kind of set it and forget it.


25g dried after these guys came out of the dehydrator.




Makes me even more excited to try out my shoe boxes when they come can't wait. Thats pretty impressive getting 25g dry!!


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Re: Preparing for first-time inoculation! [Re: Opticz]
    #25284260 - 06/21/18 11:21 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

On individual cakes a good yield is around 5-7g dry per flush. Dunk & Roll, plus bottom watering is the best thing you can do to keep your average up imo.

Bulking should give a little more, assuming you have clean spawn and can maintain the tub correctly.


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