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Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit
    #25256043 - 06/08/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/06/08/trump-russia-g7_a_23454213/

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Donald Trump injected fresh drama into an already tense meeting of the Group of Seven major industrialized nations Friday, calling for Russia, ousted for its the annexation of Crimea, to be reinstated.

Trump made the comment at the White House Friday after hours of further escalating his rhetoric against longtime allies over U.S. trade practices.

"Why are we having a meeting without Russia in the meeting? Trump said. ''They should let Russia come back in because we should have Russia at the negotiating table."

Solidifying his solo status on the world stage, Trump also lashed out at longtime allies over their criticism of his trade policies and plans an early exit from the G-7 meeting.

Russia was ousted from the elite group in 2014 as punishment for President Vladimir Putin's annexation of Crimea and its support for pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine. In the U.S., special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating whether Trump's campaign colluded with Russia in a bid to sway the 2016 presidential election in his favour.

Trump will arrive Friday at the annual gathering, held this year at a Quebec resort, but will leave Saturday morning before the event is over, heading to Singapore for his highly anticipated summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. The White House announced his travel plans after French President Emmanuel Macron and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau signalled they would use the G7 event to take a stance against new U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

"Looking forward to straightening out unfair Trade Deals with the G-7 countries,'' Trump tweeted early Friday. "If it doesn't happen, we come out even better.''




Apparently at least one of the G7 countries is considering kicking trump out instead and having G6 :strokebeard:


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25256071 - 06/08/18 01:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

G-7, G-8, its imperial bullshit either way.

Talk about collusion.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25256078 - 06/08/18 01:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
G-7, G-8, its imperial bullshit either way.

Talk about collusion.




Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!"

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25256133 - 06/08/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Let Russia in, listen to what they have to say. Even though it's going to be lies at least we'll know that what Putin shares with us won't be the scenario that will happen. We won't 100% be left in the dark. We'll have made progress and we'l be 99% in the dark when it comes to Putin and Russia


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Patlal]
    #25256166 - 06/08/18 02:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Let Russia in, listen to what they have to say. Even though it's going to be lies at least we'll know that what Putin shares with us won't be the scenario that will happen. We won't 100% be left in the dark. We'll have made progress and we'l be 99% in the dark when it comes to Putin and Russia




OK so if North Korea stops cooperating should we just let them in too?

Russia has been up to a lot of shady shit since they got kicked out in the first place, letting them back seems really stupid (as does even asking)

What are your thoughts on this Patlal:

Canada rejects Trump's bid to let Russia back into G7

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Canada is flatly rejecting Donald Trump's suggestion to reinstate Russia in the G7, four years after it was expelled from the group of industrialized nations for annexing Ukraine's Crimea.

Before departing for the G7 summit in Charlevoix, Que., the U.S. president called on the G7 leaders to let Russia back in.

"It may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in. Because we should have Russia at the negotiating table," he told reporters.

But Canada, which pushed for Russia to get the boot in 2014, is not onside.

"Our position has not changed," said Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland.

Former prime minister Stephen Harper said Russia should never be allowed back in the G7 as long as Vladimir Putin is in power.

"Canada would very, very strongly oppose Putin ever sitting around that table again. It would require consensus to bring Russia back and that consensus will just not happen," he said in 2015.

"Russia is more often than not trying deliberately to be a strategic rival, to deliberately counter the good things we're trying to achieve in the world for no other reason than to just counter them."

In April, the Liberal government expelled four Russian diplomats, declaring them unwelcome in the country amid allegations about Moscow's role in the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter.




:strokebeard:


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Patlal]
    #25256168 - 06/08/18 02:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Trump and Putin are going to Make The World Great Again!  :vibin:

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: qman]
    #25256177 - 06/08/18 02:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Trump and Putin are going to Make The World Great Again!  :vibin:




:notsureif:

They seem only interested in making things great for themselves and their cronies.

In Russia's case if you get in the way you will probably end up dead from "suicide by multiple gunshots to the back of the head" or worse.

Trump seems more the whine and threaten to sue type:

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"I do whine because I want to win and I'm not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win,"



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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25256183 - 06/08/18 02:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
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Patlal said:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Let Russia in, listen to what they have to say. Even though it's going to be lies at least we'll know that what Putin shares with us won't be the scenario that will happen. We won't 100% be left in the dark. We'll have made progress and we'l be 99% in the dark when it comes to Putin and Russia




OK so if North Korea stops cooperating should we just let them in too?

Russia has been up to a lot of shady shit since they got kicked out in the first place, letting them back seems really stupid (as does even asking)

What are your thoughts on this Patlal:

Canada rejects Trump's bid to let Russia back into G7

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Canada is flatly rejecting Donald Trump's suggestion to reinstate Russia in the G7, four years after it was expelled from the group of industrialized nations for annexing Ukraine's Crimea.

Before departing for the G7 summit in Charlevoix, Que., the U.S. president called on the G7 leaders to let Russia back in.

"It may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in. Because we should have Russia at the negotiating table," he told reporters.

But Canada, which pushed for Russia to get the boot in 2014, is not onside.

"Our position has not changed," said Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland.

Former prime minister Stephen Harper said Russia should never be allowed back in the G7 as long as Vladimir Putin is in power.

"Canada would very, very strongly oppose Putin ever sitting around that table again. It would require consensus to bring Russia back and that consensus will just not happen," he said in 2015.

"Russia is more often than not trying deliberately to be a strategic rival, to deliberately counter the good things we're trying to achieve in the world for no other reason than to just counter them."

In April, the Liberal government expelled four Russian diplomats, declaring them unwelcome in the country amid allegations about Moscow's role in the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter.




:strokebeard:




Nobody spoke to NK for years. They managed to get nukes. Suddenly somebody decided to talk to them and now they are denuclearizing. Communication is the best form of, well, communication lol


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Patlal]
    #25256199 - 06/08/18 02:15 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Russia's economy is pathetic. Not even in the top 10.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Patlal]
    #25256202 - 06/08/18 02:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

musiclover420 said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Let Russia in, listen to what they have to say. Even though it's going to be lies at least we'll know that what Putin shares with us won't be the scenario that will happen. We won't 100% be left in the dark. We'll have made progress and we'l be 99% in the dark when it comes to Putin and Russia




OK so if North Korea stops cooperating should we just let them in too?

Russia has been up to a lot of shady shit since they got kicked out in the first place, letting them back seems really stupid (as does even asking)

What are your thoughts on this Patlal:

Canada rejects Trump's bid to let Russia back into G7

Quote:

Canada is flatly rejecting Donald Trump's suggestion to reinstate Russia in the G7, four years after it was expelled from the group of industrialized nations for annexing Ukraine's Crimea.

Before departing for the G7 summit in Charlevoix, Que., the U.S. president called on the G7 leaders to let Russia back in.

"It may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in. Because we should have Russia at the negotiating table," he told reporters.

But Canada, which pushed for Russia to get the boot in 2014, is not onside.

"Our position has not changed," said Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland.

Former prime minister Stephen Harper said Russia should never be allowed back in the G7 as long as Vladimir Putin is in power.

"Canada would very, very strongly oppose Putin ever sitting around that table again. It would require consensus to bring Russia back and that consensus will just not happen," he said in 2015.

"Russia is more often than not trying deliberately to be a strategic rival, to deliberately counter the good things we're trying to achieve in the world for no other reason than to just counter them."

In April, the Liberal government expelled four Russian diplomats, declaring them unwelcome in the country amid allegations about Moscow's role in the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter.




:strokebeard:




Nobody spoke to NK for years. They managed to get nukes. Suddenly somebody decided to talk to them and now they are denuclearizing. Communication is the best form of, well, communication lol




They aren't denuclearizing. Get serious

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #25256217 - 06/08/18 02:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
G-7, G-8, its imperial bullshit either way.

Talk about collusion.




Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!"

-tRump




Right.

We can't let ethnic Russians democratically decide they want to be part of Russia.

As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25256237 - 06/08/18 02:38 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Patlal said:

Nobody spoke to NK for years. They managed to get nukes. Suddenly somebody decided to talk to them and now they are denuclearizing. Communication is the best form of, well, communication lol




Maybe 5-10 years, there have been many other peace talks over the decades though. Also they haven't denuked yet  so don't go giving trump credit already, he still has plenty of time to screw things up assuming NK planned on following through in the first place...

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

musiclover420 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
G-7, G-8, its imperial bullshit either way.

Talk about collusion.




Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!"

-tRump




Right.

We can't let ethnic Russians democratically decide they want to be part of Russia.

As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.




Yeah "democratically" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine_(2014–present)

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In February 2014, Russia made several military incursions into Ukrainian territory. After Euromaidan protests and the fall of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, Russian soldiers without insignias took control of strategic positions and infrastructure within the Ukrainian territory of Crimea. Russia then annexed Crimea after a referendum in which Crimeans allegedly voted to join the Russian Federation, according to official results.[8][62][63][64][65] In April, demonstrations by pro-Russian groups in the Donbass area of Ukraine escalated into an armed conflict between the Ukrainian government and the Russia-backed separatist forces of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. In August, Russian military vehicles crossed the border in several locations of Donetsk Oblast.[27][66][67][68][69] The incursion by the Russian military was seen as responsible for the defeat of Ukrainian forces in early September.




Would be interesting to know how legit that vote was though, either way seems like a land grab from Russia :shrug:


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25256783 - 06/08/18 07:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Music, why am I not surprised you ate up that bs propaganda like it was your favorite cake? I read it and when I got to the part where it showed what trump actually said, it had little to no relation to the vitriol in the article. I laughed and shook my head, typical msm crap. His comments were not hostile at all, they were reasonable.

Explain to me how they were hostile or how we should let them tax our exports at higher rates than we tax theirs? I want to hear you defend that if you can


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25256787 - 06/08/18 07:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I just like how Trump doesn't collude with Russia, but literally everything Trump does helps Russia achieve longstanding policy goals.

Dismantle NATO? Trump is working on it.

Drive a wedge between the western allies? Got it.

Protectionist trade aimed at allies only? Check.

Racial and social tensions across the US? Double check.

Shut one of Russia's oil competitors out of the picture? Of course!

Legally mandated sanctions courtesy of congress? What sanctions? Trump doesn't sanction people that aren't allies!

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25256789 - 06/08/18 07:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Music, why am I not surprised you ate up that bs propaganda like it was your favorite cake? I read it and when I got to the part where it showed what trump actually said, it had little to no relation to the vitriol in the article. I laughed and shook my head, typical msm crap. His comments were not hostile at all, they were reasonable.

Explain to me how they were hostile or how we should let them tax our exports at higher rates than we tax theirs? I want to hear you defend that if you can




We should ban imports and exports. That will fix everything.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Kryptos]
    #25257008 - 06/08/18 09:37 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Italy supports it. Are they in bed with Russia as well?

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25257037 - 06/08/18 09:52 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

>Italy supports it. Are they in bed with Russia as well?

No because the extreme left does not hate italy


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #25257056 - 06/08/18 10:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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>Italy supports it. Are they in bed with Russia as well?

No because the extreme left does not hate italy



Trump supports it= hes in bed with putin #Russian collusion

Italy supports it= nothing

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25257510 - 06/09/18 07:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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musiclover420 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
G-7, G-8, its imperial bullshit either way.

Talk about collusion.




Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!"

-tRump




Right.

We can't let ethnic Russians democratically decide they want to be part of Russia.

As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.




Yeah "democratically" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine_(2014–present)

Quote:

In February 2014, Russia made several military incursions into Ukrainian territory. After Euromaidan protests and the fall of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, Russian soldiers without insignias took control of strategic positions and infrastructure within the Ukrainian territory of Crimea. Russia then annexed Crimea after a referendum in which Crimeans allegedly voted to join the Russian Federation, according to official results.[8][62][63][64][65] In April, demonstrations by pro-Russian groups in the Donbass area of Ukraine escalated into an armed conflict between the Ukrainian government and the Russia-backed separatist forces of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. In August, Russian military vehicles crossed the border in several locations of Donetsk Oblast.[27][66][67][68][69] The incursion by the Russian military was seen as responsible for the defeat of Ukrainian forces in early September.




Would be interesting to know how legit that vote was though, either way seems like a land grab from Russia :shrug:




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As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.




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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25257591 - 06/09/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I can see both sides, but ultimately I see no real value in Russia going to the G7, I barely see any value in the G7 itself.

Russia does not fit the G7 purpose and really the G7 does not fit the global purpose for which it was started.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: WeakHyperCharge]
    #25257632 - 06/09/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Of course it doesnt. Neither does the UN.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25258800 - 06/10/18 02:02 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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musiclover420 said:
Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:



Right.

We can't let ethnic Russians democratically decide they want to be part of Russia.

As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.



Would be interesting to know how legit that vote was though, either way seems like a land grab from Russia :shrug:



What do you mean by "legit"?  The US orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, after which the Crimean (and Eastern Ukranian) people said "fuck this".

Do you think a US orchestrated coup is "legit"?


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    #25258812 - 06/10/18 02:27 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

No it doesn't sound legit. It sounds made-up.


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    #25258853 - 06/10/18 03:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

The US orchestrated coup sound made up???  Jesus Christ dude, I don't know how many times I've posted this leaked recording by Victoria Nuland stating who the US would put in charge in Ukraine after Viktor Yanukovych's ouster.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25258900 - 06/10/18 04:34 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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The US orchestrated coup sound made up???  Jesus Christ dude, I don't know how many times I've posted this leaked recording by Victoria Nuland stating who the US would put in charge in Ukraine after Viktor Yanukovych's ouster.




lol. Did you read the transcript? Nowhere does anyone say they are putting someone in charge. Nowhere does anyone say the US had anything to do with orchestrating anything


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods] * 1
    #25259394 - 06/10/18 11:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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lol. Did you read the transcript? Nowhere does anyone say they are putting someone in charge. Nowhere does anyone say the US had anything to do with orchestrating anything



I have read it.  The question is did you read it?

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Victoria Nuland said:
I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.

I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience.



What the hell do you think Nuland was talking about?  It turns out Arseniy Yatseniuk WAS the guy who was installed after the Ukrainian coup.

Do you believe ANY coup is "legit" in a country with elections?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25259442 - 06/10/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like two people discussing politics. You are really out on a limb with this turkey burger.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25259642 - 06/10/18 12:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Good lord did anyone see drunk and possibly coked up Larry Kudlow this morning? This administration is a fucking joke.



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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25259868 - 06/10/18 02:58 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Kudlow is a POS.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25260619 - 06/10/18 11:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Victoria Nuland said:
I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.

I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience.



What the hell do you think Nuland was talking about?  It turns out Arseniy Yatseniuk WAS the guy who was installed after the Ukrainian coup.

Do you believe ANY coup is "legit" in a country with elections?



Sounds like two people discussing politics. You are really out on a limb with this turkey burger.



Who should be installed after an illegal coup that hasn't happened is just discussing politics?!?  :shocked:

And what's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25260660 - 06/11/18 12:12 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

She said nkthjg about installing anyone. She was talking about the person she thought would be the best for the US. It's her job. There's absolutely nothing to indicate they are anything but anxious observers


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25260676 - 06/11/18 12:25 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

What's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?


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    #25260683 - 06/11/18 12:30 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods] * 1
    #25261029 - 06/11/18 08:01 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?




What about interference from a "good" actor, like the US?

It's not like us installing dictatorships has ever gone wrong before...except that time in Iraq, Iran, most of South America...

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    #25261093 - 06/11/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

We know from leaked US cables that Petro Poroshenko was "our guy" in Ukraine.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25261223 - 06/11/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This must prove that Trump is a tool of the Russians. :smirk:


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    #25261407 - 06/11/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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This must prove that Trump is a tool of the Russians. :smirk:




Well, it's either that or he's flat retarded, because everything he does helps achieve one long term Russian goal or another...

At this point, the collusion doesn't really matter, almost, in my mind. For whatever reason, Trump seems to have Russian interests first and American second. Honestly, the guy might not have knowingly colluded, but he's most definitely getting played. I'd rather he colluded, because at least then he wasn't dumb enough to get played like a broken fiddle at a redneck convention.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25261651 - 06/11/18 02:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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What's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?



whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?



Why can't Crimea determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like the US?  They certainly did NOT support the US backed coup.


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    #25261813 - 06/11/18 03:29 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Of course they didn't support the us backed coup because you're making it up


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    #25261832 - 06/11/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

There wasn't a coup in Ukraine that the US supported?

If we actually cared about democracy, wouldn't we have told the Ukrainians to take it to the election booth?

Instead, we recognized their new leadership because they were US friendly/anti-Russia and we couldn't give two shits about democracy, right?


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    #25261923 - 06/11/18 04:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

No there wasn't.


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    #25262045 - 06/11/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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There wasn't a coup in Ukraine that the US supported?



No there wasn't.



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    #25262553 - 06/11/18 10:08 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she favors a U.S.-Russian summit, seeking to point global diplomacy forward after a tumultuous meeting of Group of Seven leaders.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-10/merkel-says-trump-reneging-on-g-7-statement-is-depressing


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    #25263316 - 06/12/18 10:06 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25278926 - 06/19/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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There wasn't a coup in Ukraine that the US supported?



No there wasn't.



U.S. Military Involvement In Ukraine: NATO Expansion Through Proxy War
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Although the U.S. State Department’s direct role in stoking the Maidan conflagration and toppling a democratically elected president is widely accepted as part of the historical record of the political and civil upheaval in Ukraine, little is reported about the initial and ever evolving U.S. military presence in the country. Former Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland’s intercepted phone calls and former U.S. President Barrack Obama’s public admission of the U.S. government’s $5 billion investment in funding fundamentally altering Ukraine’s political, economic and cultural alignment in the world received coverage, even by western main stream media. What has not received extensive media scrutiny is the involvement of the U.S. military and CIA very early on, and increasingly since the civil strife in the country began.

Setting aside the wealth of research suggesting the presence of western-trained snipers on the Maidan that fateful February 20th, 2014, the then Director of the CIA John Brennan’s visit to the new coup leadership just two months later in mid-April was a sign to the world that the U.S. clandestine intelligence services were fully involved in the unfolding drama. U.S. intelligence gathering aid was apparently on offer, yet soon proved to be of little help to the hapless Ukrainian defense establishment. The declaration by the Kiev government of an Anti-Terrorist Operation was a clear sign that the United States was behind the attempt to militarily confront the growing opposition in the eastern regions of Donetsk and Lugansk. Anyone refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of the coup government would be labelled a terrorist.
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    #25280989 - 06/20/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The invasion of Ukraine and Annexation of Crimea was ILLEGAL. There's no 2 ways to see that one.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #25282184 - 06/20/18 10:21 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Can you prove there was an "invasion"???  The annexation was certainly no more illegal than the US orchestrated coup.


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    #25282194 - 06/20/18 10:26 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

It was much more illegal. But equally as bad.


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    #25282259 - 06/20/18 10:58 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Are you aware of a law that states you can't vote to separate after your democratically elected president is removed by force through a coup d'état?  :shrug:

I'm pretty sure a coup d'état's wasn't authorized under the Ukrainian constitution.


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    #25282588 - 06/21/18 06:20 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I'm saying its a lot harder to prove the US subverted and guided Ukrainian democracy into a revolt than it is so take pictures of Russian tanks in Donetsk.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25283250 - 06/21/18 12:29 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

First of all, Russian tanks in Donetsk has nothing to do the Crimean vote to rejoin Russia.

Second, the Russian tanks in Ukraine story is actually very highly suspect, so I don't agree with your premise.  On the other hand, it's easy to prove the US guided Ukraine into a revolt.  Just read the post I made a few threads up.


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    #25283313 - 06/21/18 12:59 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

By prove I mean in a court of law. Or at the UN.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25283381 - 06/21/18 01:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

Did you not read my link about Victoria Nuland’s intercepted phone calls and Obama’s admission of a $5 billion US investment to alter Ukraine’s political, economic and cultural alignment?  Or the article casting very serious doubt on the reports of Russian tanks in Ukraine?

Of course, this will never go to a court of law, unfortunately.


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    #25283776 - 06/21/18 05:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

This was 2 days ago: Ukraine's Joint forces find evidence of Russian Military presence in Donbas. https://www.unian.info/war/10157570-ukraine-s-joint-forces-show-new-evidence-of-russian-military-presence-in-donbas-photo.html


Ukraine's Joint Forces Operation (JFO) Command has showed another evidence of Russian military presence in Donbas. The JFO headquarters posted on Facebook a photo of a soldier of the Russian armed forces, which was made on one of the wind turbines of the Novoazovsk-based wind power plant on June 13, 2013. "...This is confirmed by guiding landmarks: No. 1 – wind generator; No. 2 – wind generator; No. 3 – windbreaker bend; No. 4 – windbreaker bend," the headquarters wrote. Photo from JFO headquarters The photo depicts a complex of radio-electronic reconnaissance means (two Soviet-made circular aerials and two solar batteries). Read also Situation in Azov Sea may escalate amid expansion of Russia's military presence – Turchynov "Presumably, the complex is used for audio interception, and radio direction finding of stations operating in the shortwave frequency range from 3 MHz to 30 MHz.

In addition, a man in Russian military uniform is standing near the antenna. He is probably a representative of one of the operational-combat support units or a military adviser, an instructor of Russia's armed forces," the report says. The author of the photo is most likely not a local resident, as indicated by his age (most of local "fighters" are of more advanced age).

Moreover, the actions of local militants are strictly controlled for photographs that unmask positions and military equipment. They are not admitted to the electronic warfare equipment as well. "But this person on the photo is standing near secret radio electronic equipment and is free to take photographs, exposing the location of the electronic warfare equipment," the headquarters added. Ukraine reports 2 WIA's amid 28 enemy attacks 09:39, 19 June 2018 WAR 1762 0 According to intelligence reports, one enemy armored combat vehicle and a GAZ-66 truck were destroyed. Photo from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Russia's hybrid military forces mounted 28 attacks on Ukrainian army positions in Donbas in the past 24 hours, with two Ukrainian soldiers reported as wounded in action (WIA). "Two Ukrainian soldiers were wounded during the fighting with the use of small arms and grenade launchers near the town of Avdiyivka and the village of Opytne, which are in the Donetsk sector," the press center of Ukraine's Joint Forces Operation said in an update on Facebook as of 07:00 Kyiv time on June 19, 2018. Read also Maiorsk checkpoint in Donbas resumes work – JFO HQ Active hostilities continued in the Luhansk sector, where the Russian occupation forces resorted to provocations near the village of Novotoshkivske, as well as near the village of Verkhniotoretske, which is in the Horlivka sector. Fighting continues in the Mariupol sector, near the villages of Starohnativka, Chermalyk and Lebedynske, where the use of mortars by the occupiers endangered civilians. "According to intelligence reports, one enemy armored combat vehicle and a GAZ-66 truck were destroyed, and five occupiers were wounded as a result of concerted actions by the units of the Joint Forces," the report says. The night passed without aggravation of the situation. The enemy violated the ceasefire four times without using heavy weapons. There were no casualties among the Ukrainian defenders.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #25283786 - 06/21/18 05:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The civilians left in Crimea probably do love Russia and its occupation that is the only reason they aren't dead too. Kiev was the true invasion and it was very strategically important to Putin. That's why they were able to take Crimea easily without many shots because there was almost no one left from the battles of Kiev. The Nazis took France without many shots either. That doesn't mean the French liked them being there but if you talked to a frenchman in Nazi occupied France they'd probably sing Nazi praises to stay alive.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #25284182 - 06/21/18 08:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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This was 2 days ago: Ukraine's Joint forces find evidence of Russian Military presence in Donbas.



What I said is there was no "invasion" of Ukraine.  It's certainly possible that Russia is helping Eastern Ukrainians defend themselves from the killings there of Russian speaking people.  If Russia had invaded, the war would have been over years ago.

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The civilians left in Crimea probably do love Russia and its occupation that is the only reason they aren't dead too.



Yes, they do love Russia.  I know this becuase I visited Crimea last summer.

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Kiev was the true invasion and it was very strategically important to Putin. That's why they were able to take Crimea easily without many shots because there was almost no one left from the battles of Kiev.



And now we're back to this post:
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Can you prove there was an "invasion"???




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The Nazis took France without many shots either. That doesn't mean the French liked them being there but if you talked to a frenchman in Nazi occupied France they'd probably sing Nazi praises to stay alive.



Probably true about France, but 90%+ of the French didn't vote to be ruled by Hitler.  I spoke with the locals in Crimea, and they LOVE being under Russia.


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    #25284374 - 06/21/18 11:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Did you talk to anyone who fought/sympathized with those that wanted a free Ukraine? Did you talk with the Ukrainian Nationalists or just Russian Nationalists sympathizers? Also i'd ask why do they like the Russian occupation? What e exactly are they doing that's so great?


Btw Here's different sources of proof you'll probably find a way to ignore.

Nato reports detailed with pictures and satellite imagery:
https://newrepublic.com/article/119260/russias-invasion-ukraine-evidence-convincing-putin-denies


https://conflictreport.info/2015/01/23/hard-evidence-the-regular-russian-army-invades-ukraine/


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    #25284386 - 06/21/18 11:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes, they do love Russia.  I know this becuase I visited Crimea last summer.





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You realize in cases like that people often get killed for speaking out against fascist regimes right? Russia is also a master of propaganda. Either way that is a ridiculous statement.

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Did you talk to anyone who fought/sympathized with those that wanted a free Ukraine? Did you talk with the Ukrainian Nationalists or just Russian Nationalists sympathizers? Also i'd ask why do they like the Russian occupation? What e exactly are they doing that's so great?


Btw Here's different sources of proof you'll probably find a way to ignore.

Nato reports detailed with pictures and satellite imagery:
https://newrepublic.com/article/119260/russias-invasion-ukraine-evidence-convincing-putin-denies


https://conflictreport.info/2015/01/23/hard-evidence-the-regular-russian-army-invades-ukraine/




He was a stranger anyways, even if he had asked those people I wonder how many would actually be honest and how many would wonder if Falcon is a russian informant or something...


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #25284467 - 06/22/18 01:19 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Did you talk to anyone who fought/sympathized with those that wanted a free Ukraine?



Ummm, Ukraine IS free.  No one fought the Soviets to free Ukraine as there was never a Soviet invasion.  :facepalm3:

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Did you talk with the Ukrainian Nationalists or just Russian Nationalists sympathizers? Also i'd ask why do they like the Russian occupation? What e exactly are they doing that's so great?



I spoke with everyone I could.  I went out of my way to find Ukrainian sympathizers.  I wrote about it here.  Crimeans like Russia for two reasons.

1. Most Crimeans are ethnic Russians as Crimea was historically a Russian territory except during a relatively short period under the Soviet Union.
2. Russia is investing in Crimea, and the economy is doing extremely well compared to Ukraine.

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Btw Here's different sources of proof you'll probably find a way to ignore.



I ignored nothing.  Again, I even went of my way to find people who sided with Ukraine, and I wrote about the other side here.  The Tatars were the primary group who sided with Ukraine (Tatars are the native Muslim population of Crimea)

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Nato reports detailed with pictures and satellite imagery:
https://newrepublic.com/article/119260/russias-invasion-ukraine-evidence-convincing-putin-denies


https://conflictreport.info/2015/01/23/hard-evidence-the-regular-russian-army-invades-ukraine/



Yes, I posted an article about that here.


Just use a little common sense.  If Russia invaded Ukraine, don't you think a lot more people would have been killed?

Let's look at the total numbers:

Euromaidan - "During the events of the Euromaidan protests in Kiev from 21 November 2013 through 23 February 2014, a total of 110–123 protesters and 18 police officers were killed in street clashes"
Crimean crisis - "During the Russian annexation of Crimea from 23 February through 19 March 2014, six people were killed."
Odessa clashes - "Between 26 January and 27 December 2014, sporadic clashes occurred in the city of Odessa. The deadliest of these were the 2 May 2014 Odessa clashes when 48 protesters were killed[13] (46 pro-Russian and 2 pro-Ukrainian)."
War in Donbass - "The overall number of documented deaths in the War in Donbass, which started on 6 April 2014, has been put at 10,303"

Yes, the civil was in Donbass has been deadly, which started after Crimea had left Ukraine.  That's where Russia may now possibly be helping Russian speaking citizens from getting slaughtered.


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    #25284515 - 06/22/18 02:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes, they do love Russia.  I know this becuase I visited Crimea last summer.





:lolsy:

You realize in cases like that people often get killed for speaking out against fascist regimes right? Russia is also a master of propaganda. Either way that is a ridiculous statement.



Either you just made that up, or the US is FAR better at propaganda than Russia.  Either way, your assertion is ridiculous.

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He was a stranger anyways, even if he had asked those people I wonder how many would actually be honest and how many would wonder if Falcon is a russian informant or something...



These people were very eager to talk to me.  It was clear to me that none of them felt endangered by speaking their minds.  The fact that you believe what you do is strong evidence America has the best propaganda by far.  Go visit Russia or Crimea yourself now that they're a free capitalist country if you don't want to be terribly ignorant.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27814333 - 06/11/22 08:08 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Looks like a new G8 was just formed:

US policies led to new G8
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The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars – China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey – in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4% ahead of the old group.

The rupture of existing economic relations by Washington and its allies has led to the formation of new points of growth in the world.

The United States created the conditions with its own hands for countries wishing to build an equal dialogue and mutually beneficial relations to actually form a ‘new Big Eight’ together with Russia.




The West appears to be losing its control of the world...


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27814354 - 06/11/22 08:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

They can hold their meetings the week after the real G8. Like the special Olympics.



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    #27814383 - 06/11/22 08:55 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Their GDP is bigger than the old group.  Seems like we're the Special Olypians now.  :shrug:


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    #27814392 - 06/11/22 09:00 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Lol. The GDP of the US alone is about the same as your entire special g8

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #27814413 - 06/11/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Yes, I misread the original article that I quoted above.  GDP based on Purchasing Power Parity (PPP).


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27816997 - 06/13/22 02:06 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Within days of Labor being elected the new Foreign Minister was on the plane to The Solomon Islands but the new PM's first overseas trip was to Jakarta to see Joko Widodo.


Look how the previous Morrison government behaved, bunch of brainless U.S. lap dogs, Boooooooo
Australia boycotts Russia at G20

This is how Albanese is rolling :super: go Albo the statesman whoooooohooo !
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he will attend G20 meeting in Indonesia after meeting Joko Widodo

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Mr Widodo said he was "delighted" Indonesia was the site of Mr Albanese's first bilateral visit after being sworn in as Prime Minister.




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"I will work closely with President Widodo to help deliver a successful summit. And we discussed that this morning."




I can't wait to see the stupid shit the U.S. government comes up with before the G20 in Bali. What an awkward position for Joe to be in, oh dear :laugh2:

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