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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: WeakHyperCharge]
    #25257632 - 06/09/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Of course it doesnt. Neither does the UN.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: musiclover420]
    #25258800 - 06/10/18 02:02 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Well the funny part is it already was G8 just a few years back but Republicans and Democrats agreed Russia should be kicked out for the Crimea BS.

Now we've got the whole Ukraine/Russia situation and Trump wants to invite Russia back :facepalm3:



Right.

We can't let ethnic Russians democratically decide they want to be part of Russia.

As if the G-7 arent rigging elections, funding insurgencies, and shuffling borders around constantly.



Would be interesting to know how legit that vote was though, either way seems like a land grab from Russia :shrug:



What do you mean by "legit"?  The US orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, after which the Crimean (and Eastern Ukranian) people said "fuck this".

Do you think a US orchestrated coup is "legit"?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25258812 - 06/10/18 02:27 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

No it doesn't sound legit. It sounds made-up.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods] * 1
    #25258853 - 06/10/18 03:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

The US orchestrated coup sound made up???  Jesus Christ dude, I don't know how many times I've posted this leaked recording by Victoria Nuland stating who the US would put in charge in Ukraine after Viktor Yanukovych's ouster.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25258900 - 06/10/18 04:34 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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The US orchestrated coup sound made up???  Jesus Christ dude, I don't know how many times I've posted this leaked recording by Victoria Nuland stating who the US would put in charge in Ukraine after Viktor Yanukovych's ouster.




lol. Did you read the transcript? Nowhere does anyone say they are putting someone in charge. Nowhere does anyone say the US had anything to do with orchestrating anything


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods] * 1
    #25259394 - 06/10/18 11:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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lol. Did you read the transcript? Nowhere does anyone say they are putting someone in charge. Nowhere does anyone say the US had anything to do with orchestrating anything



I have read it.  The question is did you read it?

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Victoria Nuland said:
I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.

I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience.



What the hell do you think Nuland was talking about?  It turns out Arseniy Yatseniuk WAS the guy who was installed after the Ukrainian coup.

Do you believe ANY coup is "legit" in a country with elections?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25259442 - 06/10/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like two people discussing politics. You are really out on a limb with this turkey burger.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25259642 - 06/10/18 12:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Good lord did anyone see drunk and possibly coked up Larry Kudlow this morning? This administration is a fucking joke.



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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25259868 - 06/10/18 02:58 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Kudlow is a POS.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25260619 - 06/10/18 11:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.

I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience.



What the hell do you think Nuland was talking about?  It turns out Arseniy Yatseniuk WAS the guy who was installed after the Ukrainian coup.

Do you believe ANY coup is "legit" in a country with elections?



Sounds like two people discussing politics. You are really out on a limb with this turkey burger.



Who should be installed after an illegal coup that hasn't happened is just discussing politics?!?  :shocked:

And what's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25260660 - 06/11/18 12:12 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

She said nkthjg about installing anyone. She was talking about the person she thought would be the best for the US. It's her job. There's absolutely nothing to indicate they are anything but anxious observers


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25260676 - 06/11/18 12:25 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

What's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25260683 - 06/11/18 12:30 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods] * 1
    #25261029 - 06/11/18 08:01 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?




What about interference from a "good" actor, like the US?

It's not like us installing dictatorships has ever gone wrong before...except that time in Iraq, Iran, most of South America...

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #25261093 - 06/11/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

We know from leaked US cables that Petro Poroshenko was "our guy" in Ukraine.

Surprise! The nation with military bases in 130 nations does imperialism, too!


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25261223 - 06/11/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This must prove that Trump is a tool of the Russians. :smirk:


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: starfire_xes] * 2
    #25261407 - 06/11/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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This must prove that Trump is a tool of the Russians. :smirk:




Well, it's either that or he's flat retarded, because everything he does helps achieve one long term Russian goal or another...

At this point, the collusion doesn't really matter, almost, in my mind. For whatever reason, Trump seems to have Russian interests first and American second. Honestly, the guy might not have knowingly colluded, but he's most definitely getting played. I'd rather he colluded, because at least then he wasn't dumb enough to get played like a broken fiddle at a redneck convention.

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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25261651 - 06/11/18 02:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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What's your thought on coups?  Are coups "legit" in countries with elections?



whh are you judging other people's coups. Why can't the Ukraine determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like Russia?



Why can't Crimea determine its own fate without interference from a bad actor like the US?  They certainly did NOT support the US backed coup.


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25261813 - 06/11/18 03:29 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Of course they didn't support the us backed coup because you're making it up


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Re: Donald Trump Calls For Russia To Be Let Back Into The G8 Ahead Of G7 Summit [Re: koods]
    #25261832 - 06/11/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

There wasn't a coup in Ukraine that the US supported?

If we actually cared about democracy, wouldn't we have told the Ukrainians to take it to the election booth?

Instead, we recognized their new leadership because they were US friendly/anti-Russia and we couldn't give two shits about democracy, right?


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