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I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please?
    #25255699 - 06/08/18 09:22 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I have a brand new Asus lapptop with Windows 10 S version 1709 as the operating system. I desire to make all audio that I play from my laptop play at 432 Hz - everything from Youtube, internet sites, Netflix, Blu-ays and DVDs to a future stash of music I intend to have on my laptop.

I also have a Nokia 3 which I desire to play at 432 Hz for everything.

I wouldn't mind getting a TV and speakers which I want to play at 432 Hz.

So as many 432 conversion tips in as much detail as possible would be amazing.


Thank you


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
    #25256367 - 06/08/18 03:48 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

WTF does this mean, what's so special about 432Hz? Do you mean a 433MHz transceiver?

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: WeakHyperCharge]
    #25256571 - 06/08/18 05:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I only learnt about the 432 Hz frequency in depth in recent times and decided I prefer it after having heard a comparison someone kindly did for me just a metre or so in front of me.

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WeakHyperCharge said:Do you mean a 433MHz transceiver?



No.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
    #25257310 - 06/09/18 03:11 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

There are some tutorials and free converters online; just Google a bit. I'm not sure if there are any apps that convert on the fly. I looked into it years ago (before the advent of smartphones) when a friend came with the same idea. I figured it required quite a complex implementation so I gave up on it. It doesn't help that I personally find it bogus, but it is possible that people with absolute hearing could actually note the difference. Personally I only hear it in actually comparison of the same piece at 440 and 432 played back to back. But if I hear a random recording, I cannot tell if it's 440 or 432. I suspect the same is true for many people who claim the difference is staggering.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: koraks]
    #25258485 - 06/09/18 08:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I think he just likes the 432 hz sound and wants to hear more. He will get bored after a while


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #25262710 - 06/12/18 12:06 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
    #25269018 - 06/14/18 11:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Buy a external sound card and a mixer with headphones :shrug:


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25271267 - 06/16/18 12:20 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I wanted to re-download music already at 432 Hz instead of having to convert. Is there a program that can do this?

Also, does anyone know which sound card, mixer, headphones, etc are the best for 432 Hz?

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
    #25271349 - 06/16/18 01:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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I wanted to re-download music already at 432 Hz instead of having to convert. Is there a program that can do this?



What do you mean by 're-download'? At this point it is unclear to me what you actually want.

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Also, does anyone know which sound card, mixer, headphones, etc are the best for 432 Hz?



That doesn't matter; that is to say, it doesn't matter if it's 432 or 440 Hz (or whatever other base tuning) for the audio equipment. There's no such thing as sound equipment optimized for 432Hz.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: koraks]
    #25271390 - 06/16/18 02:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I have Audacity but wanted to know if there was a faster way to convert music, or even download music from scratch in 432 Hz.

Do I require a specific kind of laptop, headphones, speakers, sound card etc to hear music in 432 Hz?

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller] * 1
    #25271531 - 06/16/18 05:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus how can you be so ignorant.

Errr, yes. I'll PM you a listing for a 432Hz certified Laptop and headphones, just $7999.97 today only!

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25271822 - 06/16/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

432 hz is ridiculous. OP is out of the loop and senseless


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25271915 - 06/16/18 10:21 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Everybody knows 448Hz is the one true frequency.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: WeakHyperCharge] * 1
    #25272546 - 06/16/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

As ridiculous as I think the basis for what he's asking for may be, there actually are a couple options.
First, there's Impulse media player (https://archive.codeplex.com/?p=impulsemediaplayer), which allows you to pitch shift everything you play up or down.  In this case, to take middle A from 440Hz to 432Hz, you'd shift down 32 cents.
Probably other apps out there that can do this.

Another option is to find a piece of musician-geared hardware to do this.  Pitch-shifting (or downtuning) effects pedals, modules, or multi-effect rack devices can have this functionality.  Then you'd just run your PC/TV output through the effects processor, then out to your stereo or amp.  You'd have to do a little research before you buy and make sure the pitch-shifting adjustment is granular enough to do "cents" and not just semitones (one semitone down from 440Hz is 415Hz).  The ones that have an analog-style knob probably are.  Some of these can get expensive real fast, but there are cheap ones, like this guy: https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Signal-Processors/Effects/M100/p/P0CAH ($99)
And sometimes you can find neat used shit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DigiTech-TSR-12-Studio-Reverb-Multi-Effects-Processor/113053094532?epid=1423075559&hash=item1a527d5284:g:e1cAAOSwfCpbHbzV (bids only at $23 now)

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: jasen]
    #25273027 - 06/16/18 07:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

If it all is at 432hz then there will be no music or voice, just a tone


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25275142 - 06/17/18 07:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

What they mean is all the frequencies are down-tuned so that middle A is at 432Hz instead of 440Hz.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: jasen]
    #25275174 - 06/17/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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What they mean is all the frequencies are down-tuned so that middle A is at 432Hz instead of 440Hz.




How do you know that is what they "mean"? 432hz is a single tone not a range of frequencies


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25275274 - 06/17/18 08:13 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I believe OP is talking about sample frequency. For example, wave form recordings are sampled at 44.1kHz. Records are at 48kHz.

A song at 453kHz is Very high quality.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25275293 - 06/17/18 08:27 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

>A song at 453kHz is Very high quality.

OK but that is not what op said. If you look closely you will see he said 432 hz not 432 khz which makes quite a difference. Maybe khz is what he meant but he was questioned on it and insisted it was hz


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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25280798 - 06/20/18 11:20 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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If it all is at 432hz then there will be no music or voice, just a tone



Yeah, but the 432Hz thing is a hype - although I'd say: it was a hype some 10 years ago or so. It's as jasen says: A=432Hz instead of 440Hz, the rest varying accordingly.

Concerning pitch-shift: I'm not sure if it's so simple. I bet it will sound just off to the critical ear. The same reason why you can't perfectly tune a piano; it's always a compromise. The octaves will be OK, but there will be problems in-between.

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I believe OP is talking about sample frequency.



No, it's really about what reference is used in tuning the instruments themselves. Sampling frequency is a completely different matter - also interesting and certainly relevant when it comes to sound quality, but the 432/440 thing is more of an esoteric matter.

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: koraks]
    #25474165 - 09/20/18 12:08 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Cheers for all the replies. I shall read them all once I get a chance :smile:

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Re: I desire all my devices to play at 432 Hz. Can you help me please? [Re: Painkiller]
    #25479315 - 09/21/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Take your time. U got plently of time.

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