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OfflineDeadfrancis
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no family
    #25241153 - 05/31/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

family is just a label, brother, mom, father, they are all roles we play, we are pretending to be a family. there is no god saying that because a certain sequence of events happens that you have to label yourself a brother, and an uncle, and a father, so the validity of "family" doesnt hold up in the courts of the universe. same goes for your name, you have no name, call yourself whatever you want, it doesnt hold up in the courts of the universe. that said, yeah we can still love the people who had sex and created our body, im not saying we should all tell our parents goodbye forever, im saying, how many times have you said "oh he is like a brother", and how many other lives have we spent with other families who we dont even know exist, and say we learn they exist, do you suddenly miss them? awakening is all about letting go of everything, trading it in for awareness. one day ill be long gone and my family will all forget i ever existed, so it does no good to hold on to something that just isnt there. i love my mom and dad, but i do not see them but as other people, i do not worship them like so many parents ignorantly wish, and recieve, of their children. if anything the only reason i feel drawn to them is beause they are lost people who need guidance, and one day very soon i will be forced to stop wasting my time trying to awaken the dead, a greater calling will come, an even greater awakening, with a stronger power of will to carry me to a place where i will know a more efficient way to help all sentient beings, and you will too when you start to let go of labels. labels, there is nuclear family, extended family, childless family, grandparent family, single parent family, like you can just keep labeling because they are all ideas, people are people, we are all one big "family". i honor my birth parents but i belong to the world. i also believe in raising the youth as a civilization, they are your responsibility, everything we do is everyone elses business, whether i smoke a cigarette is your business too because one day you will live my life and you will make the ignorant decision to light up and no one will be there to stop you except the guy or girl standing beside you, which is you in this life right now, so make the decision for me in the life you are living now, they are both your life, you are the holy spirit.


im not trying to induce fear, just putting an end to unnecessary suffering, that includes confusion from being ignorant of things like labels. we can not destroy all fear forever, all we can do is look fear in the eye and dare it to try to control us. all things fall apart, and come together, and fall apart again. that goes for our sense of security as well, which means that there is no nirvana, or eternal bliss. we will never ever be in a heaven forever, fear will always be present, and we will all suffer in hell, which is a place in our consciousness, i find there is absolutely no way around it, it is a necessary tool for teaching us the power of free will. there is no answer, or holy grail, you have a rough road ahead of you and you must walk it, no excuses, and there isnt a happy ending, just more fear, but when you are afraid to be afraid, it only prolongs your suffering. in my next life i am ecstatic to be born as someone who faces many hardships, not someone who has it cut out easy like i had in this life, i learned that even in a place of heaven it is possible to feel trapped, i no longer hold on to hope, i long for emptiness, to let go of every part of the self. i realized that it is contradictory in a sense to say that everyone is you, when for there to be a you there has to be a someone else, and there is no one else, so there also is no self.

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Re: no family [Re: Deadfrancis]
    #25241940 - 06/01/18 02:14 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Parents who didn't care for their kids can't expect to be loved by them back later.
In 'primitive' cultures, it's the opposite. There, normally parents love their kids and don't expect that back. Later they are loved by their kids back.
Love also means 'care'.
[Maybe not 'over-care', which can only be misdirected self-love and leads to giving up oneself or trying to fill something lacking in oneself (projection), disregarding the other self.]

Yes, name-giving is a labeling process. But in this case, the object which is labeled is a subject and can know the label. If it then acts according to it, or not is its own decision.
Parents infuse their wishes onto their kids by labeling them like that. If those labels run in line with the kids life, and in how far this occurs for the whole parents-kids relation is another deal.

Edited by BlueCoyote (06/01/18 02:23 AM)

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OfflineDuncan Rowhl
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Re: no family [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #25243008 - 06/01/18 04:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I must admit, and I feel borderline guilty for claiming so, and I appreciate those who are without family (whilst appreciating my own), but the entire concept of family completely diminishes together with the concept of ego when I'm at the pinnacle (or 'depth') of deep states.

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Re: no family [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #25250545 - 06/05/18 05:38 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Duncan Rowhl said:
I must admit, and I feel borderline guilty for claiming so, and I appreciate those who are without family (whilst appreciating my own), but the entire concept of family completely diminishes together with the concept of ego when I'm at the pinnacle (or 'depth') of deep states.




And that makes total sense.


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