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OfflineJML
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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #25247355 - 06/04/18 03:31 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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BrendanFlock said:
I think when people deny Jesus' existence..is usually because it threatens a type or part of their world belief..

Whether its Atheism.. or Materialism.. for example..

Because what Jesus represents..is an attack on those world belief systems..

|its like how Jesus says that he comes with a sword..it is to shatter your belief system..into the proper one..where all of life is a miracle..




I believe it's the exact opposite. When you threaten Christians belief system they start grasping at straws. If you believe something exists you should be able to prove it, not the other way around.


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #25247387 - 06/04/18 04:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
I do not think we have arrived at the same conclusions despite the dearth of historical evidence.
I still pray in his Name. Do you?





Well that's all I was saying was the lack of historical evidence and the gap of time we have no data on Christ.

I think Jesus represents All Things. Whether he was real or not, he was what he claimed to be. The living Logos. Whenever I pray I always say "In Jesus name..amen" I always will. Even though I feel he didn't exist as a man, what I feel, I call it Jesus.

Don't forget I came to the shroomery originally with the username TheMushroomJesus:lol:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (06/04/18 07:11 AM)


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Lucis]
    #25247795 - 06/04/18 10:37 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Bible = Allegory.




Allegory is one of three possible levels of interpretation according to this Jewish exegetical method:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardes_(Jewish_exegesis)


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: JML] * 1
    #25247802 - 06/04/18 10:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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If he was real (...) then his name would be written somewhere besides the bible.




If you think his name wasn't recorded outside the books of the Bible you've done 0 research.


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Virtually all New Testament scholars and Near East historians, applying the standard criteria of historical investigation, find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain[3][4][5][6][nb 1][nb 2][nb 3][nb 4]

(...)two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[12][14][56][57]





https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #25247803 - 06/04/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus liked to get stoned on cannabis. He used to tell his disciples to anoint anyone in the same of god. it is thought that the anointing oils he used contained cannabis. Cannabis is dermally active so it would get you high. Jesus experimented with psychedelics like cannabis. This is how he had spiritual experiences. This is Jesus's lost years. \

I think Jesus was a hippy who liked to get stoned and prached about peace and love and they killed him for it.


Edited by Fractal Orgasmabis (06/04/18 10:44 AM)


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? *DELETED* [Re: JML]
    #25247970 - 06/04/18 12:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #25247973 - 06/04/18 12:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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JML said:
If he was real and causing problems for the Roman Empire as much as we're lead to believe, then his name would be written somewhere besides the bible.

I think the stories are great, but yeah nothing more than fairy tales




You've a lot more 'stories' to study if you assume that!...:thumbup:


Edited by Duncan Rowhl (06/04/18 12:48 PM)


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25248376 - 06/04/18 03:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

JESUS WAS A MUSHROOM  :hi:


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Ethric]
    #25248453 - 06/04/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I know this guy who wanted to spread shrooms all over the world and preach peace and they killed him for it... He wasn't Jesus though just some random dude I heard about on the news.


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25248474 - 06/04/18 03:56 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Lord sananda lived as jesus on earth. he is no prophet, he is just a man on a mission of love, it is the myths that are so hard to believe but he likely did perform tasks that put faith in the hearts of the people he taught. he had a lot of listeners.

i do not believe that he is coming back, it is highly unlikely since we already have all the tools we need. for him to come back would keep the better half of humanity in a state of infancy, feeling the need for a father figure of some sort. it would stunt our growth.


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Re: Was Jesus a real person? [Re: Ethric]
    #25248490 - 06/04/18 04:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Ethric said:
JESUS WAS A MUSHROOM  :hi:




Null Hypothesis. Amanita muscaria does not have a history of prolific cultic use in the Middle East. They grow only in a rhizomorphic relationship to certain conifer trees, most of which do not characterize the flora of ancient Judea. Dung-loving Psiocybians would've violated Jewish dietary restrictions. Christianity existed within the Jewish synagogues for the first 150 years and was not even called Christianity or members Christians until after that period. Followers of The Way were a sect within Judaism much like the Essenes were (only women were admitted by ritual cleansing (baptism) among The Way.

Jesus is a highly mythologized 1st century Judean mendicant rabbi who fell afoul of the corrupt religious establishment of his people, who conspired with occupying Roman authorities to eliminate him. Or, conversely, some would say that he was a literary creation comprised of Jewish prophesies, Egyptian Coffin and Pyramid text stories, and in the case of author John, Greek mythology and used to consolidate the Roman Empire under a single state-sanctioned religion.


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