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 ShattrdHarlequin
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 First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! 
#2209881 - 12/30/03 02:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently found some of the seeds at a local head shop and am planning on taking them for New Years. I found this method of ingestion here on the shroomery:
1) Peel the fuzzy outer covering off of your seeds.
2) Grind in a coffee grinder into a fine powder.
3) Let soak in a few tablespoons of pure lime juice for 30 minutes in a decent sized drinking glass, mixing every 10 minutes.
4) After 30 minutes, mix the lime juice with a good amount of orange juice.
5) The last mouthful will be a lot of the hard, ground up powder. You can opt to chew it, but none of us did, we all chugged it, and tripped fine.
Does this method work fine? How many seeds should I be using for a first time trip? Any other advice would be GREATLY appreciated. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
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 Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: ShattrdHarlequin]
#2209956 - 12/30/03 02:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah it works fine. for my first HBWR trip I had 7,5 seeds and tripped pretty good! 
it's a very nice trip but it's also pretty narcotic; I didn't move much that night. just sitting or lying felt good and I had no intentions to move. my muscles felt weak.
So if you're planning to party or something I wouldn't take them. if you're planning on a quiet evening on the couch with some close friends go for it
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: stefan]
#2209965 - 12/30/03 03:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds very nice. Thanks. Would you recommend doing more than the 7.5? or was that a good enough dose? Does anyone have a better method of ingestion?
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stefan
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: ShattrdHarlequin]
#2210126 - 12/30/03 04:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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depends on how strong your seeds are, but you don't know how strong they are...
take 5-8 seeds and be sure to smoke weed 
oh yeah, take 'em on an empty stomach
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: stefan]
#2210578 - 12/30/03 09:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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If he experiences nausea and needs to vomit he is going to have a rough time trying to evacuate his stomach contents when there is nothing to evacuate. I thought that this way the to go as well until I spent 12 hours huddled over a bowl trying to purge an empty stomach.
I have found that peeled/de-fuzzed seeds chewed and held under the tongue for 10 minutes before swallowing causes the onset to occur alot quicker than if the seeds were just swallowed. Nausea is also significantly reduced (only puked 4-5 times as opposed to 10-15), and I imagine that if you were to expel the seeds after you held them under your tongue that might help the situation further.
That being said, my reaction to HBWR seeds has nothing to do with you. Effects will vary from person to person, some experience nausea, some don't.
Just have yourself a good night, I know you will
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: ShattrdHarlequin]
#2211874 - 12/31/03 03:16 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I posted that method long before I unregistered. Makes me feel good people are actually using it 
Have pot, definitely. You'll need it for the stomach ache/cramps. ~8 is a good first time trip, I had a lotta fun my first time. Don't jump into high doses just yet, get used to the chemical and whatnot. You can get up there in the 20s-30s, and the trips are AMAZING. It's a very distinct trip, VERY visual, little mindfuck.
Edit: Anyone reading this post thinking they can handle a really high dose for your first time, you're going to find you're very wrong. My friend's first time tripping was on 12, and he narrated his entire childhood for ~10 hours. He was so out of it, we didn't think he'd be normal again. It got to the point he was just babbling and rambling nonsensical, foreign phrases. On 28-30 for another kid's first time, we almost had to bring him to the ER. Don't fuck around. Use not abuse.
Edited by s2dope (12/31/03 03:18 PM)
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: Adden]
#2211901 - 12/31/03 03:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i find that after grinding them up put them into capsules. i have 0 nausea everytime this way and they are easy to consume
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: Adden]
#2212589 - 12/31/03 11:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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HBWR is total under-rated man. Capsules are best route for eating (but still toxic). Best route is sublingual I find. You trip harder too. But you need a higher dosage.
Ganja is a must!
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: ShattrdHarlequin]
#2212890 - 01/01/04 05:13 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i've taken up to 25 with no effects at all.
i wonder whether they were old or not the 'desired kind of hbwr', like pakistanian or whatever.
at least i have a small sprout of a known good one, gonna wait for it to grow and see... so far it looks identical. (many convulvolaceae should look identical on its first times)...
FH
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: ShattrdHarlequin]
#2212952 - 01/01/04 07:07 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I lived in Hawaii for 12 years and have dosed over 1000 people with baby wood rose seeds.
One they are from India, and were introduced into Hawaii as an ornamental.
If you scrape the seeds carefully spending a few minutes on each seed, then 2-8 seeds is a good dose.
If you are not moving about for 6 hours you will never get any stomach discomfort. you can even chewe the seeds as I do, two at a time. once you crack them in your teeth they are easy to chew ont he teeth only and l not let the taste touch your tongue or roof of your mouth. I posted a lengthy paper on baby woodrose seeds with photos at nansnook in my forum inthe journals section called Tales of the shroom.
Check it out.
mj
And never try to increase the dosage. many who think it is like LSD take two doses and do get stomach and nausiating problems when they try to take more than the body requires.
You get all of the physical of LSD witht he seeds, however, not a lot of melting scenery as in acid. You do get trails and waving and shimmering imagery.
And never eat the large hawaiian woodrose. They do not contain anything psychoactive int hem although many companies in High Times and on the internet offer them for sale. It is the baby woodrose seeds which are psychoactive.
mj
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: mjshroomer]
#2213498 - 01/01/04 06:02 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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is the large baby woodrose bunk? dammit, i've been trying to grow some!
FH
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: mjshroomer]
#2215914 - 01/03/04 12:36 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mjshroomer have you ever dosed HBWR sublingual?
www.innerexotics.com never bunks out on me. I reccomend them.
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: theshiftingwalls]
#2215927 - 01/03/04 12:46 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I rarely get halucinations on HBWR. But when I do its always, twisting, twirling, waving, breathing. I remember looking at the coners of the walls and I couldnt tell if knew what I was seeing, it looked so real.
Things shift to yellow and red. With a stactic white breathing haze of twirling shapes. Everything flashes like a camera
People who use HBWR as a rec drug have no hope of having a good trip. Its like all strange ethnogens, you use them for a creational experience. Spirtual use is the only way to have an awaking from the Vine Serpent.
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: theshiftingwalls]
#2215932 - 01/03/04 12:52 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I consider HBWR a dirty rough drug. While Ololiuqui is more visual and a overall better trip. Note : I will only use the sublingual route from now on with any LSA seed.
Ololiuqui is quite the spiritual experience. LSA is a medicine.
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Re: First time with Baby Hawaiin Woodrose. Help! [Re: theshiftingwalls]
#2524485 - 04/04/04 03:18 PM (17 years, 21 days ago) |
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what is the usual dose for Ololiuqui?
same as hbwr?
thanks
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