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Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix??
    #25228023 - 05/25/18 02:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure this information exists somewhere on here but I've been searching and reading for 2 hours and running out of time!

So I've got fully colonized jars now using BRF recipe. (Well they're about 90-95% colonized but I'm getting everything ready for when they're 100%.)

Using 64 qt monotubs which I'm about to drill holes in using the method I've seen most recommended on here (Each long side gets two 1-inch holes about 5 in from the bottom, and a single 1-inch hole at the top).

Is that correct? (I will be "dialing them in like a boss" ha ha, per Frank's instructions using the polyfill. I have a fan in the room pointed elsewhere, i'm in a very humid area, room temp can be controlled separately from other rooms, natural sunlight in the room but not direct...)

I don't want to use a casing since I've read a lot stating it's unnecessary. But if I'm advised otherwise I am happy to. Limited funds but have most supplies mentioned in the teks here already on hand.

But I've seen so many different teks (some with WBS and some BRF substrate/jars), I'm confused about the following:

1. With using no casing during the tub colonization, should I keep the lid on? Or use saran wrap with tiny holes in it in place of the lids?

2. I'm using this tek and recommended ration for bulk substrate verm/coir pasteurization. If this type of bulk substrate or ratio won't work with the BRF please tell me now!  https://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir
4 quarts spawn per bucket tek recipe (650 grams coir, 2 to 4 quarts of verm and 4.5 - 5.5 quarts of water)


THANKS IN ADVANCE everybody. Happy my jars are finally ready for the next step. Took a lot longer than I had hoped.


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: southerngirl] * 1
    #25228046 - 05/25/18 02:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

You never case at the beginning,  always case after 100% colonization.

Leave the lid on the tub, I usually just use duct tape to cover your FAE holes until your ready to expose your colonized substrate to fruiting conditions.

How many jars do you have to spawn?


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: southerngirl] * 1
    #25228050 - 05/25/18 02:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

follow that tek and you'll be fine. i use 1.5" holes but that doesn't matter too much as long as you dial it in upon fruiting.

don't get too excited and spawn your stuff before it's ready. give it time to make sure that the center are also colonized.

i don't put a trash bag around my tubs either but that tek even says it's optional.

i use 4 quarts of water to 650 grams coir, 2 quarts verm and a handful of gypsum. don't trip on the saran. just tape the holes, put the lid on and wait for full colonization. the introduce fruiting conditions.


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #25228634 - 05/25/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I have 14 jars. Not rushing it. but some are at 100% externally at least and some are really close to that so. I figured I better get the tubs ready and all.


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: southerngirl] * 1
    #25228806 - 05/25/18 09:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Personally,I would try to break your grow up into multiple containers.(namely shoeboxes)
Making shoeboxes
Awesome thread on this.

Also BRF to bulk/Cakes as spawn : Post your BRF Bulk grows has some info you can use.:awesomenod:


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #25228828 - 05/25/18 09:15 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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You never case at the beginning,  always case after 100% colonization.




This is a matter of personal preference. People used to case at spawn all the time and my best friend swears by it.

Though to be fair it has become less common but people do case at spawn. I agree personally that it works best at full colonization but I said before, my friend swears by casing at spawn. Though he hasn't logged into this site for almost 9 years.


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: southerngirl]
    #25229319 - 05/26/18 05:54 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I believe the best ratio of jars to substrate is 1:1. So 14 half pints equals 7 pints so mix with 7 pints of prepped coir coir.


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25229468 - 05/26/18 07:59 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

My 14 jars are quart jars...


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: southerngirl]
    #25229552 - 05/26/18 08:47 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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I have 14 jars. Not rushing it. but some are at 100% externally at least and some are really close to that so. I figured I better get the tubs ready and all.




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My 14 jars are quart jars...




You habe the right idea moving to bulk substrate, But you say you have 14 quart jars of BRF? 

Shoeboxes are a great idea, the pic in my sig is a shoebox of PE6 brf cakes to cvg

Your totally ok doing a full size mono just keep your ratio at 1:1...so if you have 14 quart jars I would use a 5:5 ratio on two tubs and a 4:4 on the last tub...


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Re: Quick ?? about spawning to tub with BRF jars: Tub Design, substrate mix?? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25229561 - 05/26/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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You never case at the beginning,  always case after 100% colonization.




This is a matter of personal preference. People used to case at spawn all the time and my best friend swears by it.

Though to be fair it has become less common but people do case at spawn. I agree personally that it works best at full colonization but I said before, my friend swears by casing at spawn. Though he hasn't logged into this site for almost 9 years.




This is prolly true, I've never cased at spawn but i could understand doing it if you were casing and exposing to fruiting conditions immediately after spawn...i know some people do that too...BUT personally I've had great success doing it in seperate steps and I'm only willing to advise folks on what to do based my own experiences and personal success...

I guess this goes to the old addage...There's more then one way to skin a cat! :acidcat:


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