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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: MagicMush123] * 3
    #25394986 - 08/17/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Wrong thread. This is an example of a right winger being abused for his political beliefs. He peacefully protested and ended up getting assaulted, and you're glorifying it? If this was the other way around you guys would be talking about how violent the right is... hypocritical to say the least



No, it is about a clueless right-winger who thinks that politics is not an integral part of a large portion of punk music. It is about a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life, and as a result the believe that "politics" can and should remain an academic discussion separate from daily life.

Mike Ness grew up getting his ass kicked by jocks and blue collar drunks not unlike this buddy Tim because he looked and acted differently. Unsurprisingly, right-wing beliefs aren't highly tolerated in the punk scene. It's not just catchy lyrics. The only people who go to a punk show and expect politics to be left at the door are right-wing bros who have never had political violence forced on them in their daily life, and they inevitably get their first taste. 

Besides, freedom of speech doesn't protect you from getting your ass beat by the person you flip off. Fighting words, my brother. Yes, Mike Ness has a history of violence - it won't be his first time being charged for a fight if that happens. Punk music in general has a history of violence. Only a clueless right-winger would think they could walk into the centre of a highly political music scene, give a big middle finger to their politics, and then expect everyone else to leave their politics aside when he gets the response that any non-clueless idiot would expect.

Clueless privileged right-winger get's his free speech middle finger shoved up his ass?
This is the perfect thread for that.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25395225 - 08/17/18 08:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25395284 - 08/17/18 09:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
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MagicMush123 said:
Wrong thread. This is an example of a right winger being abused for his political beliefs. He peacefully protested and ended up getting assaulted, and you're glorifying it? If this was the other way around you guys would be talking about how violent the right is... hypocritical to say the least



No, it is about a clueless right-winger who thinks that politics is not an integral part of a large portion of punk music. It is about a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life, and as a result the believe that "politics" can and should remain an academic discussion separate from daily life.

Mike Ness grew up getting his ass kicked by jocks and blue collar drunks not unlike this buddy Tim because he looked and acted differently. Unsurprisingly, right-wing beliefs aren't highly tolerated in the punk scene. It's not just catchy lyrics. The only people who go to a punk show and expect politics to be left at the door are right-wing bros who have never had political violence forced on them in their daily life, and they inevitably get their first taste. 

Besides, freedom of speech doesn't protect you from getting your ass beat by the person you flip off. Fighting words, my brother. Yes, Mike Ness has a history of violence - it won't be his first time being charged for a fight if that happens. Punk music in general has a history of violence. Only a clueless right-winger would think they could walk into the centre of a highly political music scene, give a big middle finger to their politics, and then expect everyone else to leave their politics aside when he gets the response that any non-clueless idiot would expect.

Clueless privileged right-winger get's his free speech middle finger shoved up his ass?
This is the perfect thread for that.



Ok, he was assaulted for "fighting words" and not for his political views. Got it. Either way there's an awful lot of assumptions going on in your post. This a random guy attending a concert and you're talking about him as you know him. You have no idea that hes "privileged" or that " hes a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life" tell me how you could possibly know that? The word "privileged" doesn't come to mind when you read "trump supporting farmer". I thought you only supported violence against nazis and fascists? I didn't know that also carried over to anyone on the right. Have a good one

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #25395298 - 08/17/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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MagicMush123 said:
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shivas.wisdom said:
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MagicMush123 said:
Wrong thread. This is an example of a right winger being abused for his political beliefs. He peacefully protested and ended up getting assaulted, and you're glorifying it? If this was the other way around you guys would be talking about how violent the right is... hypocritical to say the least



No, it is about a clueless right-winger who thinks that politics is not an integral part of a large portion of punk music. It is about a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life, and as a result the believe that "politics" can and should remain an academic discussion separate from daily life.

Mike Ness grew up getting his ass kicked by jocks and blue collar drunks not unlike this buddy Tim because he looked and acted differently. Unsurprisingly, right-wing beliefs aren't highly tolerated in the punk scene. It's not just catchy lyrics. The only people who go to a punk show and expect politics to be left at the door are right-wing bros who have never had political violence forced on them in their daily life, and they inevitably get their first taste. 

Besides, freedom of speech doesn't protect you from getting your ass beat by the person you flip off. Fighting words, my brother. Yes, Mike Ness has a history of violence - it won't be his first time being charged for a fight if that happens. Punk music in general has a history of violence. Only a clueless right-winger would think they could walk into the centre of a highly political music scene, give a big middle finger to their politics, and then expect everyone else to leave their politics aside when he gets the response that any non-clueless idiot would expect.

Clueless privileged right-winger get's his free speech middle finger shoved up his ass?
This is the perfect thread for that.



Ok, he was assaulted for "fighting words" and not for his political views. Got it. Either way there's an awful lot of assumptions going on in your post. This a random guy attending a concert and you're talking about him as you know him. You have no idea that hes "privileged" or that " hes a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life" tell me how you could possibly know that? The word "privileged" doesn't come to mind when you read "trump supporting farmer". I thought you only supported violence against nazis and fascists? I didn't know that also carried over to anyone on the right. Have a good one




SW supports violence against people that disagree with his view of the world and he makes no apologies for that outlook.

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman] * 2
    #25395710 - 08/18/18 05:40 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

"Whoa whoa whoa we dont know the full story this guy could easily NOT be a white supremacist."


Weird how yall give nazis the benefit of the doubt but never a black kid shot in the back by police, or child thrown in cages by ICE.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25395711 - 08/18/18 05:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

When the resurgent right wing in the UK is so resurgent that you need youtube virgins to boost your popularity:



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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25395771 - 08/18/18 07:17 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Lmao



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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25395852 - 08/18/18 08:21 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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"Whoa whoa whoa we dont know the full story this guy could easily NOT be a white supremacist."


Weird how yall give nazis the benefit of the doubt but never a black kid shot in the back by police, or child thrown in cages by ICE.




What does it take for a straight white male that supports Trump not to be a "white supremacist" or "Nazi" these days? 

Or is that the automatic label one receives according to the Antifa handbook?

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman] * 1
    #25395900 - 08/18/18 08:50 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

There are non racist trump supporters.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: koods]
    #25395925 - 08/18/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman] * 1
    #25396328 - 08/18/18 12:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Its so important to you that black people like your side, despite you despising black people.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25396391 - 08/18/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Its so important to you that black people like your side, despite you despising black people.




"like your side"

Blacks in the US should embrace nationalism, how has globalization been working out for them? 

"despite you despising black people"

Total nonsense, I put ALL US citizens first regardless of race, can you say the same?  No.

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25396393 - 08/18/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
"Whoa whoa whoa we dont know the full story this guy could easily NOT be a white supremacist."


Weird how yall give nazis the benefit of the doubt but never a black kid shot in the back by police, or child thrown in cages by ICE.



:whateveryousayfreak:

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #25396461 - 08/18/18 01:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Its so important to you that black people like your side, despite you despising black people.




"like your side"

Blacks in the US should embrace nationalism, how has globalization been working out for them? 

"despite you despising black people"

Total nonsense, I put ALL US citizens first regardless of race, can you say the same?  No.




Lmao why would blacks support nationalism in a nation that enslaved and continues to oppress them? Youre hysterical.

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Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
"Whoa whoa whoa we dont know the full story this guy could easily NOT be a white supremacist."


Weird how yall give nazis the benefit of the doubt but never a black kid shot in the back by police, or child thrown in cages by ICE.



:whateveryousayfreak:




Thanks for your contribution.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25396488 - 08/18/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Its so important to you that black people like your side, despite you despising black people.




"like your side"

Blacks in the US should embrace nationalism, how has globalization been working out for them? 

"despite you despising black people"

Total nonsense, I put ALL US citizens first regardless of race, can you say the same?  No.




Lmao why would blacks support nationalism in a nation that enslaved and continues to oppress them? Youre hysterical.





Because they would be doomed without living in the US, they have a first world standard of living that's better than 95% of the worlds population.  They better be pro-USA, this so called "oppression" is better than any other alternative.

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25396532 - 08/18/18 02:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Its so important to you that black people like your side, despite you despising black people.




"like your side"

Blacks in the US should embrace nationalism, how has globalization been working out for them? 

"despite you despising black people"

Total nonsense, I put ALL US citizens first regardless of race, can you say the same?  No.




Lmao why would blacks support nationalism in a nation that enslaved and continues to oppress them? Youre hysterical.

Quote:

MagicMush123 said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
"Whoa whoa whoa we dont know the full story this guy could easily NOT be a white supremacist."


Weird how yall give nazis the benefit of the doubt but never a black kid shot in the back by police, or child thrown in cages by ICE.



:whateveryousayfreak:




Thanks for your contribution.



Your contribution was insinuating that a random trump supporter at a concert was a white supremacist and brought up blacks for some reason. Talk about  a hysterical contribution  :thefuckisthis:

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25396560 - 08/18/18 02:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If you cant parse the point i was making thats on you bucko


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman] * 1
    #25396588 - 08/18/18 02:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Ok, he was assaulted for "fighting words" and not for his political views. Got it. Either way there's an awful lot of assumptions going on in your post. This a random guy attending a concert and you're talking about him as you know him. You have no idea that hes "privileged" or that " hes a person who does not face any significant oppression in their daily life" tell me how you could possibly know that? The word "privileged" doesn't come to mind when you read "trump supporting farmer". I thought you only supported violence against nazis and fascists? I didn't know that also carried over to anyone on the right. Have a good one



He was assaulted for both his political views and the way he aired them.

He could have gone to the punk show and left his politics aside and just ignored the anti-Trump rant just as he obviously ignores the lyrical content of Social Disortion, and he would have been left alone.

Instead, he decided to insult the frontman by holding his middle finger in the air. Now, admittedly, Mike Ness is off the drugs and doing much better these days, but here are a few stories from his past:

  • Police arrive to break up the first-ever gig by Social Distortion at a house party in Yorba Linda. A 17-year-old Mike Ness spits in a plainclothesman's face and is carted off to jail.

  • Ness, now almost 18, goes into a rage (nothing unusual) at his Fullerton apartment, which other local punks have nicknamed the Black Hole. He starts slamming a knife into his living room wall. The knife gets stuck, Ness's hand slips and he filets his left index finger.

  • It is the early '80s, and Ness is brawling (nothing unusual) outside the Cuckoo's Nest, the Costa Mesa club that is the hub of the Orange County punk-rock scene. His antagonist wrestles Ness to the ground and bites off a chunk of his left ear.

  • Ness punches out a bouncer before a Social Distortion club gig in San Diego. The triumph is short-lived: After the show, a posse of bouncers grabs Ness, beats him up and calls the police to bring assault charges. Ness lands in jail for several days--a particularly uncomfortable place to be for a heroin addict.


He built a reputation for himself as the hardest of the hard cases, the punk rocker who was every inch a wiry, pugnacious, tattoo-covered, needle-punctured punk. And then this bumbling farmer rolls up, insults him and his politics, and is surprised at the result?

It doesn't matter if I support this or not (I never said I condone the assault), the point is that punk rock has a history of being confrontational and belligerent. Mike Ness stands as a shining example of this. Regardless of your politics, insulting some of punk rocks famous frontmen would lead to a brawl. Tim the farmer either is unaware of this aspect of punk rock, or he didn't think it would happen to him.

This is why I talk of privilege. I wouldn't walk into a redneck bar, insult the flag, and then be surprised that they couldn't leave the politics at home. But, I've also been targeted for my politics. Someone who has never experienced real violent pushback for just living their politics (like a sheltered conservative white male) might not understand that politics isn't just this passive conversation - it is real and lived. It is a privilege to be able to consider politics as an academic discussion, because  those facing political oppression do not have that luxury.

Yes, these are assumptions - but I would consider them an educated guess based off of buddies reaction to his two black eyes.





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SW supports violence against people that disagree with his view of the world and he makes no apologies for that outlook.



And you support violence against people because they crossed an imaginary line and make no apologies for that outlook.

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman] * 2
    #25397102 - 08/18/18 07:24 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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qman said:
I put ALL US citizens first regardless of race, can you say the same?  No.



Lmao why would blacks support nationalism in a nation that enslaved and continues to oppress them? Youre hysterical.



Because they would be doomed without living in the US, they have a first world standard of living that's better than 95% of the worlds population.  They better be pro-USA, this so called "oppression" is better than any other alternative.



Welp, there you have it folks.  Blacks have no right to complain about shitty treatment in America so long as they have it better than Africans.


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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #25397875 - 08/19/18 07:45 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Qman has always thought that blacks are inherently a retardation of society.

Africa is a shithole because black people live there, according to him. Europe and the US would be shitholes if blacks ran things according to him. So its actually a GOOD thing we oppress them, lest we let their dastardly genetics destroy the greatness of Western Civilization.




But no yeah race has nothing to do with it, right qman? Its all *inhales deeply before blowing dog whistle* about economics.


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