|
wolf8312
Pennywise


Registered: 10/01/12
Posts: 2,365
Last seen: 14 hours, 39 minutes
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos] 3
#27385399 - 07/13/21 05:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said:
To be clear, I don't really care about Assange. I am aware of his situation, but I...don't care. He's a whistleblower. Of course he's getting railroaded. That's what happens to whistleblowers. When you decide to become a whistleblower, you kind of accept that you're gonna get fucked over.
But this is a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the situation. Julian Assange is not a whistleblower in the sense that he was working for an organization where he was legally or duty-bound not to disclose (CIA, etc.) its secrets. Assange is/was an Australian journalist and publisher who published material (of war crimes, etc.) that he received from external sources. He was working for all of us, not the pentagon.
The US authorities have done this not so much to punish him personally but as a warning to all other journalists who might do the same, an attack upon press freedom and democracy itself that -assuming you believe such things are important- you definitely should care about.
Quote:
Want your opinion to not be marginal? Make it non-marginal. Make people care.
I personally with a flag and a megaphone against an all-encompassing and century-entrenched media empire that reaches into every home, vehicle, and pocket and could -and would- simply ignore me?
There are plenty of people out there waving flags and attempting to get issues like this mainstream support but they are facing a ludicrously steep uphill climb for so many different reasons the biggest being that, like you, most people simply don't care about Assange, any more than they do the horrific crimes he reported. The same with Snowdon. The issues people do care about are those that are either affecting them personally (such people are always in the minority) or those that are trending on Facebook/Twitter. The new left/right culture war or our very own proverbial matrix.
It's kind of a trite and overused quotation in this internet age but never has it been more relevant and is I believe why you personally should care about Julian Assange. I'm not joking here, we are all (the entire world) in serious trouble as long as this criminal regime and the media/propaganda aparatus it controls is still in power:
First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
Edited by wolf8312 (07/13/21 11:26 AM)
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: wolf8312]
#27386200 - 07/13/21 04:59 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Kryptos said:
To be clear, I don't really care about Assange. I am aware of his situation, but I...don't care. He's a whistleblower. Of course he's getting railroaded. That's what happens to whistleblowers. When you decide to become a whistleblower, you kind of accept that you're gonna get fucked over.
But this is a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the situation. Julian Assange is not a whistleblower in the sense that he was working for an organization where he was legally or duty-bound not to disclose (CIA, etc.) its secrets. Assange is/was an Australian journalist and publisher who published material (of war crimes, etc.) that he received from external sources. He was working for all of us, not the pentagon.
The US authorities have done this not so much to punish him personally but as a warning to all other journalists who might do the same, an attack upon press freedom and democracy itself that -assuming you believe such things are important- you definitely should care about.
That's not helping your case at all. You basically said "Well, Assange wasn't a credible whistleblower, he's just a dumb link dump!" -- So he doesn't even get the whistleblower protection that whistleblowers theoretically get.
Again, there is a certain point at which you put yourself at risk by rocking the boat. Whether you do that knowingly or not is a different question, but when you rock the boat that way, you're accepting the risk.
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Want your opinion to not be marginal? Make it non-marginal. Make people care.
I personally with a flag and a megaphone against an all-encompassing and century-entrenched media empire that reaches into every home, vehicle, and pocket and could -and would- simply ignore me?
There are plenty of people out there waving flags and attempting to get issues like this mainstream support but they are facing a ludicrously steep uphill climb for so many different reasons the biggest being that, like you, most people simply don't care about Assange, any more than they do the horrific crimes he reported. The same with Snowdon. The issues people do care about are those that are either affecting them personally (such people are always in the minority) or those that are trending on Facebook/Twitter. The new left/right culture war or our very own proverbial matrix.
You know who Joe Arridy was? He was a death row inmate that was mind-of-a-six-year-old retarded. Nobody cared about him until someone wrote a very eloquent article around 2007. Because nobody cares about a retard in a gas chamber.
Until someone makes them care.
Become more popular than facebook. Even better, get trending on facebook. Boom, now you've made people care about your cause.
Quote:
wolf8312 said: It's kind of a trite and overused quotation in this internet age but never has it been more relevant and is I believe why you personally should care about Julian Assange. I'm not joking here, we are all (the entire world) in serious trouble as long as this criminal regime and the media/propaganda aparatus it controls is still in power:
This is where you are wrong. People that rock the boat are in trouble. People that don't rock the boat are not. And maybe I'm just a dumb sheep, but I am a dumb sheep, willingly. Nobody pays attention to me when I'm doing things I'm not supposed to do.
|
wolf8312
Pennywise


Registered: 10/01/12
Posts: 2,365
Last seen: 14 hours, 39 minutes
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos] 2
#27386552 - 07/13/21 08:26 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Kryptos said:
Quote:
That's not helping your case at all. You basically said "Well, Assange wasn't a credible whistleblower, he's just a dumb link dump!" -- So he doesn't even get the whistleblower protection that whistleblowers theoretically get.
Sorry, what does that mean? A dumb link dump? I basically said that?
I may have said that Assange "blew the whistle" in my OP but that doesn't mean I was saying he was actually a whistleblower (as I explained above) it was just a turn of phrase. Even if I did say he was a whistleblower, that doesn't mean he was a whistleblower. He was not a whistleblower!
Let's be honest here the whistleblower thing was only ever a rationalization you put forward to justify your not giving a shit about Assange or the wider attack on the freedom of the press and democracy itself, as if you cared the position you are taking on these issues would quickly be untenable.
Quote:
Again, there is a certain point at which you put yourself at risk by rocking the boat. Whether you do that knowingly or not is a different question, but when you rock the boat that way, you're accepting the risk.
A journalist deserves to be sentenced to over 100 years in prison for bringing war crimes to the attention of the public because you don't rock the boat?
Journalists are supposed to rock the boat aren't they or what is the point of having journalists? All that would be left would be propaganda (and guess what!).
I agree, in his position, I wouldn't do what he did either or risk my life or that of my family but thankfully there are people out there willing to make such sacrifices on our behalf.
Quote:
Become more popular than facebook. Even better, get trending on facebook. Boom, now you've made people care about your cause.
I have to become more popular than Facebook now? Well I'll check back in a few weeks and let you know how that's going! 
As for trending on Facebook, for one I would never have Facebook on my computer, and two that's completely ignoring the issues about Facebook that I and others are raising, so we're just going around in familiar Shroomery political forum circles.
Quote:
Until someone makes them care.
I guarantee that if you are representative of the public at large then nobody will ever give two shits about any of the issues we are talking about here! Not about freedom of the press, not about democracy, and not about kids being blown up by cheering American troops.
-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: wolf8312]
#27386652 - 07/13/21 10:28 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
wolf8312 said: Kryptos said:
Quote:
That's not helping your case at all. You basically said "Well, Assange wasn't a credible whistleblower, he's just a dumb link dump!" -- So he doesn't even get the whistleblower protection that whistleblowers theoretically get.
Sorry, what does that mean? A dumb link dump? I basically said that?
I may have said that Assange "blew the whistle" in my OP but that doesn't mean I was saying he was actually a whistleblower (as I explained above) it was just a turn of phrase. Even if I did say he was a whistleblower, that doesn't mean he was a whistleblower. He was not a whistleblower!
Let's be honest here the whistleblower thing was only ever a rationalization you put forward to justify your not giving a shit about Assange or the wider attack on the freedom of the press and democracy itself, as if you cared the position you are taking on these issues would quickly be untenable.
I would actually give more of a shit about him if he was a whistleblower. As I have learned as a direct result of this conversation, he was not a whistleblower. He was a link dump. As in, he did not actually do things, he simply took other people's things and published them (while heavily editing with regards to his own political agenda).
There are much bigger attacks on democracy going on than an incel hiding in an embassy while running a shittier and somehow less moderated 4chan.
Quote:
wolf8312 said: A journalist deserves to be sentenced to over 100 years in prison for bringing war crimes to the attention of the public because you don't rock the boat?
Journalists are supposed to rock the boat aren't they or what is the point of having journalists? All that would be left would be propaganda (and guess what!).
I agree, in his position, I wouldn't do what he did either or risk my life or that of my family but thankfully there are people out there willing to make such sacrifices on our behalf.
Yeah, he's not a journalist. He's a content aggregator for actual journalists, and political hack.
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Become more popular than facebook. Even better, get trending on facebook. Boom, now you've made people care about your cause.
I have to become more popular than Facebook now? Well I'll check back in a few weeks and let you know how that's going! 
As for trending on Facebook, for one I would never have Facebook on my computer, and two that's completely ignoring the issues about Facebook that I and others are raising, so we're just going around in familiar Shroomery political forum circles.
I literally gave you two options: Break the system (become more popular than facebook) in a way that gives you a voice, or work within the system (get trending on facebook) to give yourself a voice. You rejected both. You don't seem to want a voice.
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Until someone makes them care.
I guarantee that if you are representative of the public at large then nobody will ever give two shits about any of the issues we are talking about here! Not about freedom of the press, not about democracy, and not about kids being blown up by cheering American troops.
Well, we agree on one thing then. Until someone makes people care about your marginal opinion, your opinion will remain marginal and ignored by the general public. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
|
wolf8312
Pennywise


Registered: 10/01/12
Posts: 2,365
Last seen: 14 hours, 39 minutes
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27386666 - 07/13/21 10:50 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said:
Quote:
wolf8312 said: Kryptos said:
Quote:
That's not helping your case at all. You basically said "Well, Assange wasn't a credible whistleblower, he's just a dumb link dump!" -- So he doesn't even get the whistleblower protection that whistleblowers theoretically get.
Sorry, what does that mean? A dumb link dump? I basically said that?
I may have said that Assange "blew the whistle" in my OP but that doesn't mean I was saying he was actually a whistleblower (as I explained above) it was just a turn of phrase. Even if I did say he was a whistleblower, that doesn't mean he was a whistleblower. He was not a whistleblower!
Let's be honest here the whistleblower thing was only ever a rationalization you put forward to justify your not giving a shit about Assange or the wider attack on the freedom of the press and democracy itself, as if you cared the position you are taking on these issues would quickly be untenable.
I would actually give more of a shit about him if he was a whistleblower. As I have learned as a direct result of this conversation, he was not a whistleblower. He was a link dump. As in, he did not actually do things, he simply took other people's things and published them (while heavily editing with regards to his own political agenda).
There are much bigger attacks on democracy going on than an incel hiding in an embassy while running a shittier and somehow less moderated 4chan.
Quote:
wolf8312 said: A journalist deserves to be sentenced to over 100 years in prison for bringing war crimes to the attention of the public because you don't rock the boat?
Journalists are supposed to rock the boat aren't they or what is the point of having journalists? All that would be left would be propaganda (and guess what!).
I agree, in his position, I wouldn't do what he did either or risk my life or that of my family but thankfully there are people out there willing to make such sacrifices on our behalf.
Yeah, he's not a journalist. He's a content aggregator for actual journalists, and political hack.
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Become more popular than facebook. Even better, get trending on facebook. Boom, now you've made people care about your cause.
I have to become more popular than Facebook now? Well I'll check back in a few weeks and let you know how that's going! 
As for trending on Facebook, for one I would never have Facebook on my computer, and two that's completely ignoring the issues about Facebook that I and others are raising, so we're just going around in familiar Shroomery political forum circles.
I literally gave you two options: Break the system (become more popular than facebook) in a way that gives you a voice, or work within the system (get trending on facebook) to give yourself a voice. You rejected both. You don't seem to want a voice.
Quote:
wolf8312 said:
Quote:
Until someone makes them care.
I guarantee that if you are representative of the public at large then nobody will ever give two shits about any of the issues we are talking about here! Not about freedom of the press, not about democracy, and not about kids being blown up by cheering American troops.
Well, we agree on one thing then. Until someone makes people care about your marginal opinion, your opinion will remain marginal and ignored by the general public. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Thank you! I shall get started around the beer halls!
-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27386720 - 07/14/21 12:23 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said: he did not actually do things, he simply took other people's things and published them (while heavily editing with regards to his own political agenda).
Can you give an example of what you mean by "heavily editing"?
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
The Ecstatic
Chilldog Extraordinaire


Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 34,046
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 1 hour, 38 minutes
|
|
Enjoy this article about Tucker Carlson’s pathological need to lie about everyone he’s ever met in order to justify his persecution complex.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tucker-carlson/2021/07/13/398fa720-dd9f-11eb-a501-0e69b5d012e5_story.html
--------------------
|
The Ecstatic
Chilldog Extraordinaire


Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 34,046
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 1 hour, 38 minutes
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#27386996 - 07/14/21 08:44 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
As we see reports from the media about how terrible it is that we’re “leaving” Afghanistan, here’s a reminder that the Taliban offered to hand over bin Laden only a couple weeks after 9/11, and the Bush administration refused.
--------------------
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
|
Quote:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:
Kryptos said: he did not actually do things, he simply took other people's things and published them (while heavily editing with regards to his own political agenda).
Can you give an example of what you mean by "heavily editing"?
Sure. Where were the RNC emails published?
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27387517 - 07/14/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
The Ecstatic said: Enjoy this article about Tucker Carlson’s pathological need to lie about everyone he’s ever met in order to justify his persecution complex.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tucker-carlson/2021/07/13/398fa720-dd9f-11eb-a501-0e69b5d012e5_story.html
I can't read the article without a subscription.
But I'm guessing you posting an article from an establishment paper about someone who often goes against the establishment isn't serious?
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (07/14/21 03:27 PM)
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27387527 - 07/14/21 03:27 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said:
Quote:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:
Kryptos said: he did not actually do things, he simply took other people's things and published them (while heavily editing with regards to his own political agenda).
Can you give an example of what you mean by "heavily editing"?
Sure. Where were the RNC emails published?
Were RNC emails ever even given to Wikileaks? That's news to me.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
|
Well, you claim that there was no nefarious dealings with Russia, so I think the hackers would have been fair and balanced and given over both sets.
So, either Assange or a bunch of Russian hackers decided that there should be some editorializing.
|
tyrannicalrex
Strange R



Registered: 04/24/03
Posts: 38,333
Loc: subtropics
|
|
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tucker-carlsons-first-grade-teacher-finally-calls-him-out-for-his-lies-about-her/ar-AAM9M48?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL
Fucker Carlson’s First-Grade Teacher Finally Calls Him Out for His Lies About Her Vivian Kane 4 hrs ago 26 Comments
In his 2018 book Ship of Fools, Tucker Carlson describes his ultra-right-wing origin story. As he tells it, he was just seven years old and in the first grade when he grew to detest liberals. Tucker Carlson wearing a suit and tie talking on a cell phone: Tucker Carlson sits cross-legged, scratching his head during a talk at a convention © Provided by The Mary Sue Tucker Carlson sits cross-legged, scratching his head during a talk at a convention
In the book, Carlson details his hatred for Mrs. Raymond, whom he describes as “a parody of earth-mother liberalism” who “wore long Indian-print skirts” and “had little interest in conventional academic topics, like reading and penmanship.”
“He recalled her sobbing theatrically at her desk, saying, ‘The world is so unfair! You don’t know that yet. But you’ll find out!'” writes The Washington Post in a new story on Carlson titled “How Tucker Carlson became the voice of White grievance.”
According to the Post, that journey toward white grievance started with Mrs. Raymond:
Carlson said he just wanted liberals to “stop blubbering and teach us to read. . . . Mrs. Raymond never did teach us; my father had to hire a tutor to get me through phonics.” Thus, Carlson says, he began his sojourn as a conservative thinker, questioning the liberals who he said were all around him, exemplified by his first-grade teacher.
Here’s how he later described Mrs. Raymond to CSPAN:
She was sort of willowy, blonde, wore Indian peasant skirts with long-wind chime earrings and she was a kind of political activist/first-grade teacher and spent most of the year trying to make us like her birth mother liberals.
Except according to Marianna Raymond (yes, Carlson didn’t even give his caricatured version of his teacher a pseudonym in his book), none of that is true. She told the Post she never sobbed at her desk, didn’t wear “Indian-print skirts,” and as for that tutor his father hired—that was her. Or at least, she was hired by Carlson’s father to be one of his home tutors.
She apparently wasn’t aware that she made an appearance in Carlson’s book until the newspaper told her.
“Oh my God,” she said when she heard what he had to say about her. “That is the most embellished, crazy thing I ever heard.”
One of Carlson’s biggest, longest-running talking points is that America talks too much about race and that racism wouldn’t be an issue if we didn’t harp on it so much. That’s why he seems to think that Black people are responsible for racism in America—because they’re leading the conversations about it. He loves to speak out against the idea that white people are responsible for or even benefit from racism in America.
“The idea that I’d be responsible for the sins (or, for that matter, share in the glory of the accomplishments) of dead people who happened to share my skin tone has always confused me,” Carlson wrote in a 2009 Esquire article. “Racial solidarity wasn’t a working concept in my southern-California hometown.”
Of course it wasn’t! Carlson grew up in one of the whitest, most affluent areas of California—maybe the entire country. Asking Carlson what he thought of white privilege is like the old joke of asking a fish what he thinks about water. Growing up in an environment like that, he would have had no concept of racial injustice because he never had to see it.
Sure, when he was seven years old, if he had heard someone mention these issues, they might have seemed odd to him. Maybe that’s where his heavily embellished image of Mrs. Raymond came from.
Or maybe he just made up a story about a nice, normal woman because he needed some way to justify the fact that as a grown man, he still carries a Richie Rich seven-year-old’s view of the world.
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27387571 - 07/14/21 03:45 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said: Well, you claim that there was no nefarious dealings with Russia, so I think the hackers would have been fair and balanced and given over both sets.
So, either Assange or a bunch of Russian hackers decided that there should be some editorializing.
FBI Director James Comey said Russia never penetrated the RNC servers.
Are you saying Russia did successfully hack the RNC servers and, if so, that they gave the emails to Assange?
Source, or make believe?
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27387577 - 07/14/21 03:48 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
tyrannicalrex said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tucker-carlsons-first-grade-teacher-finally-calls-him-out-for-his-lies-about-her/ar-AAM9M48?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL
Fucker Carlson’s First-Grade Teacher Finally Calls Him Out for His Lies About Her
Why was this post directed at me? Did I say Tucker never lied, or that I even agree with most his positions (I don't)?
I said he's one of the only mainstream anchors who regularly speaks out against the establishment.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
|
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27387594 - 07/14/21 03:57 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it
By the way, your "source" is a 404 error.
Sorry about the 404 error. It was good 4 years ago.
Here's another article by the NY Times:
Russian Hackers Gained ‘Limited’ Access to R.N.C., Comey Says
Quote:
The director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey, told lawmakers at a Senate hearing on Tuesday that Russian hackers had penetrated the Republican National Committee’s computer records, but he called it a “limited penetration of old R.N.C.” computer systems that were “no longer in use.”
Federal investigators have said that a single email server used by that contractor had been penetrated. But it was going out of service and contained outdated material that the Russians probably found to be of little value.
He said there was no evidence “that the current R.N.C.” — he appeared to be referring to servers at the committee’s headquarters or contractors with current data — had been hacked.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
Kryptos
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,848
Last seen: 24 minutes, 22 seconds
|
|
Oh, so they didn't actually fail to get into the RNC servers, they only "minimally" got into the RNC servers now. Can you define "minimally"? Just so we know what we're working with here before you move the goalposts again.
Because my source says James Comey is wrong or lying, and based on James Comey's political history, I'm inclined to believe it.
|
tyrannicalrex
Strange R



Registered: 04/24/03
Posts: 38,333
Loc: subtropics
|
|
I was just posting an article because you said the one the other poster linked was a pay per view, so I posted another link to a story for you.
|
Falcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger



Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US
Last seen: 8 months, 8 days
|
Re: Humans of the Right Wing: AsCompendium [Re: Kryptos]
#27387653 - 07/14/21 04:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptos said: Oh, so they didn't actually fail to get into the RNC servers, they only "minimally" got into the RNC servers now. Can you define "minimally"?
I didn't use the word "minimally" which you put in quotes. I said the NY Times reported, "there was no evidence 'that the current R.N.C.' — he appeared to be referring to servers at the committee’s headquarters or contractors with current data — had been hacked."
If you're talking about the "outdated material" "of little value" on a contractor site previously used for website hosting and donor lists (NOT emails), I agreed that happened years ago.
Quote:
Kryptos said: Just so we know what we're working with here before you move the goalposts again.
First you said Assange was "heavily editing" his material. Then you said it might have been the Russian hackers who were withholding the emails. Then we see the hacked materials were website hosting and donor lists, not emails. Finally, we know these materials were outdated and of little value.
It seems to be you that's moving the goalposts. 
Or would you agree you were wrong to say Assange was "heavily editing" his content?
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
|
|