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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Your argument has been that since people are prejudged, it's cool to discriminate against them.
Nice strawman. I have stated that everyone prejudges other humans and their environments for a large variety of reasons.
There's no such thing as operating with a blank slate that liberals like to pretend exists in their minds.
I didn't disagree with you nor did I say people operate with a blank slate, so the strawman is yours.
What I meant is exactly what I said: Since people are prejudged, you think it's cool to discriminate against them.
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qman said: Are some of our prejudgments accurate? Absolutely. Are some off base? Absolutely.
Which is why you shouldn't discriminate based on prejudgments.
"you think it's cool to discriminate against them"
I do, are you a mind reader now?
Why is discriminating based on a prejudgment so horrible?
If I see a person that I perceive is very old and weak, why wouldn't I treat them differently by holding the door open for them? I perceive a distinction in my mind, that's discrimination, correct?
Making prejudgments isn't a bad or good aspect of human nature, it's just what we do as humans. Our minds are constantly accessing other people and our environments. Humans aren't perfect, either are our prejudgments.
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman]
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qman said: Making prejudgments isn't a bad or good aspect of human nature, it's just what we do as humans. Our minds are constantly accessing other people and our environments. Humans aren't perfect, either are our prejudgments.
So you've known a few bad apples and think it's just good human nature to advocate "darkies stay out of my country"?
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/07/10/man-harasses-woman-wearing-puerto-rico-shirt-illinois-park/770858002/
How are these people so aggressively stupid? It genuinely amazes me.
How is a person like this able to survive so long in the wild?
If this guy actually has a job I hope an undocumented immigrant or robot takes it.
Natural selection is not taking care of some of these people fast enough...
I like the idea of universal healthcare and all, but maybe it's best if we let some of these folks "move along" before we really get that cranked up. Some people shouldn't be helped. 

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Authorities in Illinois are investigating an incident caught on video in which a white man harangued a Latino woman who was wearing a shirt displaying the Puerto Rican flag at a local park.
In addition, officials from the Forest Preserves of Cook County, which runs several wooded areas that surround Chicago, are looking into the behavior of a police officer who observed the incident and appeared to do little or nothing to stop it.
"After the incident, we immediately launched an investigation pursuant to our personnel policies into the response of our officer," the organization said in a series of tweets. "The investigation is ongoing and the officer involved has been assigned to desk duty pending the outcome.”
In the statement, Forest Preserves said the man, who they did not identify, had been arrested and charged with assault and disorderly conduct.
The developments came after video of the harassment, which occurred last month, was posted on Facebook and went viral. The footage was recorded by Mia Irizarry, who was setting up a picnic in the park to celebrate her 24th birthday.
As she was making the preparations, the man approached her and demanded to know why she was wearing her shirt, which also had the words "Puerto Rico" written on it.
"You should not be wearing that in the United States of America," the man shouts, adding, "Are you a citizen? Are you a United States citizen?"
Irizarry responds that she is wearing the shirt “because I can” and explains that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.
“We don’t own Puerto Rico,” the man says. “Are you educated?” Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and is classified as a Free Associated State or commonwealth.
Irizarry, who remains polite throughout the confrontation, calling the man “sir,” then asked a nearby park police officer to help, saying "I am renting this area and he's harassing me about the shirt that I'm wearing."
When the policeman did nothing, she again requests help. "Officer, I feel entirely uncomfortable, can you remove ... please officer." The officer is then seen walking away.
"Officer, I'm renting, I paid for a permit for this area,” she adds. “I do not feel comfortable with him here, is there anything you can do?"
The officer then approaches the man, who uses an expletive.
As more police arrive, Irizarry tells them she still doesn't feel safe as the man continues his tirade. "You're not American, if you were American you wouldn't wear that,” he shouts. “You know that, right?"
A female officer then intervenes and explains that Irizarry has a permit. She also warns him that he could be arrested "for not being compliant."
"You don't come here harassing people," the officer continues. "People have just as much right to be here as you and when you're drunk, you don't belong here."
Later in the video, Irizarry comments about the male officer, saying he “did absolutely nothing. He did absolutely zero. I told him I felt uncomfortable multiple times … literally here watching this and he did not do anything.”
On Monday, Puerto Rico’s Governor Ricardo Rosselo tweeted an angry reaction about the incident.
“Today a video surfaced of an undignified event in which a Puerto Rican woman was brutally harassed by a bigot while an officer did not interfere. I am appalled, shocked & disturbed by the officer’s behavior,” he said.
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: waves]
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qman said: Making prejudgments isn't a bad or good aspect of human nature, it's just what we do as humans. Our minds are constantly accessing other people and our environments. Humans aren't perfect, either are our prejudgments.
So you've known a few bad apples and think it's just good human nature to advocate "darkies stay out of my country"?
I think our past experiences formulating our statistical commonsense is a little more complicated than "known a few bad apples".
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Here's logic and facts boy genius Ben Shapiro declaring he doesnt give a fuck about innocent civilian deaths:

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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: qman]
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people fucking suck.
"Go back to Mexico": 91 year old man beaten with a brick by woman while on his daily walk
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A 91-year-old grandfather was reportedly told to "Go back to Mexico" before a woman and four men left him beaten and bloodied near the street in a Los Angeles-area neighborhood.
Rodolfo Rodriguez had left for his daily walk near his family's home in Willowbrook on July 4 when he passed a small girl and a woman, the latter of whom attacked him with a concrete block without warning, he told CNN. Soon after, a group of men attacked Rodriguez, too.
Misbel Borjas, a neighbor, witnessed the attack from her car, she told the Los Angeles Times. She captured the incident on video shared with KTLA-TV, which shows Rodriguez with blood running down his face. He was left unable to walk along with a broken cheek bone, bruised ribs and head injuries, the station reported.
“She was yelling at him, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to Mexico,’” Borjas told the Times. “It was racist.”
Rodriguez travels to the U.S. yearly from Michoacan, Mexico, to visit his family in Willowbrook, grandson Erik Mendoza told CNN, which reported that the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department was seeking up to five suspects — the woman and three or four men — as of Monday night.
Authorities said Rodriguez may have bumped into the girl, according to KTLA. His grandson expressed shock to the station.
“How can you hurt a 92-year-old man?" said Mendoza, who told CNN that Rodriguez turns 92 this fall. "What kind of threat does he pose to you, for you to do this to him?"
A GoFundMe campaign established by Mendoza for his grandfather's medical expenses has already blown way past its $15,000 goal, raising nearly $200,000.
Rodriguez is now recovering at home, according to NBC Los Angeles, which reported from his bedside:
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: relic]
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who TF hits a 91 year old man in the face with a brick. i couldn't hit anyone with a brick unless it was in defense and even then, that's harsh AF.
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and he addresses his booshit to Dear Liberals because any veneer of the right in the US--the right in very general terms--caring about humans has been cast off.
any decent people on the right should condemn shit like this in the strongest terms while the rest of the right wring their hands and whine about his free speech rights.
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The Ecstatic said: Here's logic and facts boy genius Ben Shapiro declaring he doesnt give a fuck about innocent civilian deaths:

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Taken out of context.
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Right on cue, qman arrives to defend the right.
But hes not a conservative yall. Hes a moderate
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: relic]
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relic said: people fucking suck.
"Go back to Mexico": 91 year old man beaten with a brick by woman while on his daily walk
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A 91-year-old grandfather was reportedly told to "Go back to Mexico" before a woman and four men left him beaten and bloodied near the street in a Los Angeles-area neighborhood.
Rodolfo Rodriguez had left for his daily walk near his family's home in Willowbrook on July 4 when he passed a small girl and a woman, the latter of whom attacked him with a concrete block without warning, he told CNN. Soon after, a group of men attacked Rodriguez, too.
Misbel Borjas, a neighbor, witnessed the attack from her car, she told the Los Angeles Times. She captured the incident on video shared with KTLA-TV, which shows Rodriguez with blood running down his face. He was left unable to walk along with a broken cheek bone, bruised ribs and head injuries, the station reported.
“She was yelling at him, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to Mexico,’” Borjas told the Times. “It was racist.”
Rodriguez travels to the U.S. yearly from Michoacan, Mexico, to visit his family in Willowbrook, grandson Erik Mendoza told CNN, which reported that the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department was seeking up to five suspects — the woman and three or four men — as of Monday night.
Authorities said Rodriguez may have bumped into the girl, according to KTLA. His grandson expressed shock to the station.
“How can you hurt a 92-year-old man?" said Mendoza, who told CNN that Rodriguez turns 92 this fall. "What kind of threat does he pose to you, for you to do this to him?"
A GoFundMe campaign established by Mendoza for his grandfather's medical expenses has already blown way past its $15,000 goal, raising nearly $200,000.
Rodriguez is now recovering at home, according to NBC Los Angeles, which reported from his bedside:
Thats a nasty part of town. I doubt the lady is a right-winger though. I've been following this for a few days. an article i read yesterday quoted the grandson as saying that the family thinks they know who it was but they want the justice system to handle it. I wouldn't be surprised at some sort of retaliation if they don't arrest someone soon.
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: ballsalsa]
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got it, thanks. if you hear anything else, please let us know.
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Right winger upset that, after sweeping arrests of inauguration day protesters and over a year of punishment without conviction via the drawn out pre-trial process, charges against all J20 anti-Trump defendants were finally dropped - decides to submit new legislation that threatens fifteen years of prison for wearing a mask so next time they won't walk.
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said: Right winger upset that, after sweeping arrests of inauguration day protesters and over a year of punishment without conviction via the drawn out pre-trial process, charges against all J20 anti-Trump defendants were finally dropped - decides to submit new legislation that threatens fifteen years of prison for wearing a mask so next time they won't walk.
They can easily walk and protest. The point is, is that you have a masked gang that are routinely vandalizing and attacking people. You have the right to protest or walk wherever you want. The last time i checked, you don't have the right to assault people that you disagree with
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Re: Humans of the Right Wing: A Compendium [Re: MagicMush123]
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To be clear, I don't expect this act to stop militant antifascism. Militant opposition to the state and its institutions has always met with significant repression. Before antifa it was the 'animal enterprise terrorism act' and the green scare, which targeted militant environmentalists. Repression is expected. We won't be intimidated.
But aren't you in the small government and freedom camp? So why support this law, other than the fact that it's title is anti-antifa? We already have laws against vandalism and assault. There are also legitimate reasons to wear a disguise or mask that don't involve avoiding arrest for illegal acts. How will this law make punishing those guilty of vandalism and assault easier without infringing on the freedom of others? Have you read the text of the act?
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In General.--Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, while in disguise, including while wearing a mask, injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both.
What qualifies as a disguise or mask? Sunglasses and a hat? A scarf around the face? Are you comfortable with this term being so ambiguous?
Especially when you consider that "injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates" are the proscribed actions. I'm sure you are familiar with sketchy self-defence legal cases built on a flimsy standard of feeling threatened or intimidated.
Or how about the part that saws "any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States" is included. So would nonviolent protesters who sit in front of traffic be considered guilty of infringing on a privilege secured by law?
Are you at all concerned about the potential for this law being applied to people who aren't militant antifascists? Do you have no concern that "unmasking antifa" is being used as a selling point for authoritarian legislation that will be used to suppress public dissent?
And, even if you agree with the law, don't you think that a possible 15 years for an act that may not even include physical violence, just a perceived threat, is a little draconian? Seems intended to set up defendants for accepting plea bargains, pressuring people against a fair trail (and something that the vast majority of J20 defendants refused to accept).
What benefit will this legislation provide that will outweigh the vast potential for abuse?
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shivas.wisdom said: To be clear, I don't expect this act to stop militant antifascism. Militant opposition to the state and its institutions has always met with significant repression. Before antifa it was the 'animal enterprise terrorism act' and the green scare, which targeted militant environmentalists. Repression is expected. We won't be intimidated.
But aren't you in the small government and freedom camp? So why support this law, other than the fact that it's title is anti-antifa? We already have laws against vandalism and assault. There are also legitimate reasons to wear a disguise or mask that don't involve avoiding arrest for illegal acts. How will this law make punishing those guilty of vandalism and assault easier without infringing on the freedom of others? Have you read the text of the act?
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In General.--Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, while in disguise, including while wearing a mask, injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both.
What qualifies as a disguise or mask? Sunglasses and a hat? A scarf around the face? Are you comfortable with this term being so ambiguous?
Especially when you consider that "injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates" are the proscribed actions. I'm sure you are familiar with sketchy self-defence legal cases built on a flimsy standard of feeling threatened or intimidated.
Or how about the part that saws "any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States" is included. So would nonviolent protesters who sit in front of traffic be considered guilty of infringing on a privilege secured by law?
Are you at all concerned about the potential for this law being applied to people who aren't militant antifascists? Do you have no concern that "unmasking antifa" is being used as a selling point for authoritarian legislation that will be used to suppress public dissent?
And, even if you agree with the law, don't you think that a possible 15 years for an act that may not even include physical violence, just a perceived threat, is a little draconian? Seems intended to set up defendants for accepting plea bargains, pressuring people against a fair trail (and something that the vast majority of J20 defendants refused to accept).
What benefit will this legislation provide that will outweigh the vast potential for abuse?
The fact is, is that they wear masks or disguises because they know what they are doing is inherently wrong. They dont want to be identified and linked to their crimes( assault, vandalism, rioting) what exactly is wrong with the new law? Its protecting the freedom for those who wish to exercise their right to free peech. Thats the whole point in free speech, to be able to express unpopular opinions without being murdered or assaulted. Thats what makes America so great. Free speech helps to prevent us from living in tyranny. Why does antifa need to have militant tactics? Why cant they show up and counter protest without being violent? We all know those nazi activists are losers. Why stoop to their level? Im sure if antifa stuck with peaceful protests, they would have many, many supporters. But the reality is, is that all people see are a masked gang of anarchists vandalizing, assaulting, rioting and intimidating trump supporters. They seem like a group of misfits who are merely using antifascism as an excuse to riot and cause trouble. Remember how we were always taught that violent protests lead you to being discredited and shunned? Now you know why many people dont take them seriously and dismiss them violent troublemakers. As of right now both sides are extremists, and hopefully this new law helps to stop the violence and mayhem that antifa is creating. And just to be clear this goes for all protesters or activists who use violence as a means to spread their message. Atm antifa are the biggest offenders.
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MagicMush123 said: [The fact is, is that they wear masks or disguises because they know what they are doing is inherently wrong. They dont want to be identified and linked to their crimes( assault, vandalism, rioting)
Yes, I've never denied that one reason to disguise one's identity is to escape arrest. Still, you appear to be conflating legality with morality, and ignore my point that avoiding arrest for illegal behaviour is not the only reason a protestor may choose to hide their identity.
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what exactly is wrong with the new law?
I feel I already explained what I perceive as wrong with the new law. Perhaps you could review my previous post and address some of the questions I posed?
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Its protecting the freedom for those who wish to exercise their right to free peech. Thats the whole point in free speech, to be able to express unpopular opinions without being murdered or assaulted. Thats what makes America so great. Free speech helps to prevent us from living in tyranny.
This is a bunch of nice platitudes about free speech and freedom but does nothing to address my concerns.
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Why does antifa need to have militant tactics? Why cant they show up and counter protest without being violent?
Perhaps you would have the answer to these questions if you studied a basic history of antifascism, but you have stated that you are unwillingly to invest any amount of time in achieving this. Yet, here you are again - so sure in your criticism d something you remain willfully ignorant of.
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We all know those nazi activists are losers. Why stoop to their level? Im sure if antifa stuck with peaceful protests, they would have many, many supporters. But the reality is, is that all people see are a masked gang of anarchists vandalizing, assaulting, rioting and intimidating trump supporters.
This implies that nazis will leave people alone if we just ignore them. History proves this wrong. Not even taking about nazi Germany, in the modern USA nazis and other far-right extremists are responsible for the majority of political murders and an untold number of assaults and harassment. Antifascism is self-defence against this perceived community threat. Just because a corporate media leashed to the interests of capitalists doesn't make this obvious to those watching at home, doesn't make it not so. Once again, you should ay least put a cursory effort into learning about the history of antifascism if you are so keen on criticising it.
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Remember how we were always taught that violent protests lead you to being discredited and shunned? Now you know why many people dont take them seriously and dismiss them violent troublemakers.
Yea, it's highly beneficial for the state to convince its citizens that the only valid form of protest is nonviolent. A close examination of both the civil rights era and Indian liberation reveal the lie. Just because most people are duped doesn't mean I'll cripple myself too.
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As of right now both sides are extremists, and hopefully this new law helps to stop the violence and mayhem that antifa is creating.
Once again I'll ask, what benefit will this legislation provide that will outweigh the vast potential for abuse?
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And just to be clear this goes for all protesters or activists who use violence as a means to spread their message. Atm antifa are the biggest offenders.
Biggest offenders? What are you basing this claim on?
And just so there's no confusion, here are my concerns regarding the law:
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We already have laws against vandalism and assault. There are also legitimate reasons to wear a disguise or mask that don't involve avoiding arrest for illegal acts. How will this law make punishing those guilty of vandalism and assault easier without infringing on the freedom of others? Have you read the text of the act?
What qualifies as a disguise or mask? Sunglasses and a hat? A scarf around the face? Are you comfortable with this term being so ambiguous?
Especially when you consider that "injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates" are the proscribed actions. I'm sure you are familiar with sketchy self-defence legal cases built on a flimsy standard of feeling threatened or intimidated.
Or how about the part that saws "any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States" is included. So would nonviolent protesters who sit in front of traffic be considered guilty of infringing on a privilege secured by law?
Are you at all concerned about the potential for this law being applied to people who aren't militant antifascists? Do you have no concern that "unmasking antifa" is being used as a selling point for authoritarian legislation that will be used to suppress public dissent?
And, even if you agree with the law, don't you think that a possible 15 years for an act that may not even include physical violence, just a perceived threat, is a little draconian? Seems intended to set up defendants for accepting plea bargains, pressuring people against a fair trail (and something that the vast majority of J20 defendants refused to accept).
What benefit will this legislation provide that will outweigh the vast potential for abuse?
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Whatever dude, you can defend violence and extremism all you want, although it is telling to your character.
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I'm not even trying to defend the actions of militant antifascists right now. My point is that this law, if passed, is ripe for potential misuse and abuse in order to supress dissent. Period.
Laws against vandalism and assault already exist, if you wish to punish antifa. What more does this law provide, that makes it worth the potential for abuse?
"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"
But sure, it's easier to just avoid answering questions that might force you to reconsider your worldview.
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What dissent? You're literally allowed to protest and say whatever you want in the United states. They're so free that they can openly mock their leader and criticize him and yet nothing happens to anyone who states those views. Maybe if they banned protesting or free speech, then you might have a case here.
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