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I need some advice in making a spawn bag
    #2521791 - 04/03/04 02:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Tell me if you guys think this might work..

-Using a Hefty ziplock freezer bag
-Cutting a small square hole on one of the sides towards the top of the bag
-Puting a layer of Tyvec taken from an unused ups envelope and using industrial strength tape to secure it over the hole.
-Fill the bag with brf/verm
-Wrapping in a towel, or tin foil so when its being boiled it does not melt
-Innoc' in a few seperate areas all over the bag, then putting tape over the holes
-Then incubating the bag

To me, the only problem I see would either be the bag melting, or the tape coming off during the boiling process... Would like to get some feedback if anyone has tried this, Thanks!


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2521826 - 04/03/04 02:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The only real problem I see is with the tape,
Tape tends to come apart in steam, so I would
suggest a plastic glue, used for plumbing in
hot water plastic pipes instead of tape, for
glueing on the tyvek square.


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2521831 - 04/03/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, ziplock bags will melt in a pc, regardless of whether or not they touch the sides. You can buy autoclavable spawn bags with filter patches from many shroomery sponsers at very reasonable prices.

-Odium


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: OJK]
    #2521848 - 04/03/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You can get away with steaming them, or boiling them, as long as you allow them to cool down well. If he has a pc he needs to use either what you suggest, or oven bags, used for cooking turkeys.
If he does have a pressure cooker, he also needs to be using grain, not brf.


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: Loki]
    #2521869 - 04/03/04 03:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

-No, I dont have a PC.
-As much as I would like to support the Shroomery's sponsors I am pressed for cash at the time.
-Are those autoclavable oven bags sealable? or could I just tie in a knot at the top or use a rubberband?
-Would straw mixed with some verm be a good substitute for brf?


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: Nickster_154371]
    #2521973 - 04/03/04 03:27 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry dude, I assumed you would be using a p.c. Straw is typically used as a bulk substrate, and pasteurised as opposed to sterilised. I wouldn't recommend injecting straw with spores. Oven bags are not usually sealable, but could be closed with wire or "impulse sealed" using a normal iron with a peice of paper between it and the bag.

-Odium


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Re: I need some advice in making a spawn bag [Re: OJK]
    #2522003 - 04/03/04 03:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Cool thanks, but I have one more question to bug you guys with. Im going to choose the oven bag with brf/verm. How much substrate do you recommend I fill it with to get a decent colonization time? My goal is to use the colonized bag for my first bulk attempt with straw.


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