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OfflineEschalt
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Thinking abstractly..
    #2520237 - 04/02/04 11:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You know how there are stages of development that describe what the human mind is capable of? Like Freud had the 4 cognitive development stages or something, well how do you know if you have, for instance, reached the 4th stage of abstract thought because supposedly not everyone will reach it, or you can fluctuate between stages. Are you guarenteed, do you think, to be capable at least of reaching a higher stage through psychedelic drug use? Just some thought I had, been wondering lately if I am even able to think abstractly . . . :confused:


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Eschalt]
    #2520282 - 04/03/04 12:12 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Eschalt said:
You know how there are stages of development that describe what the human mind is capable of? Like Freud had the 4 cognitive development stages or something, well how do you know if you have, for instance, reached the 4th stage of abstract thought because supposedly not everyone will reach it, or you can fluctuate between stages. Are you guarenteed, do you think, to be capable at least of reaching a higher stage through psychedelic drug use? Just some thought I had, been wondering lately if I am even able to think abstractly . . . :confused:




How do you know if abstract thinking isnt normal thinking?

Or how do you know if normal thinking isnt abstract thinking?


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Eschalt]
    #2520320 - 04/03/04 12:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Uhh.... What?


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2520333 - 04/03/04 12:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

now thats thinking abstractly mr gubjet


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2520367 - 04/03/04 12:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Eschalt said:
You know how there are stages of development that describe what the human mind is capable of? Like Freud had the 4 cognitive development stages or something, well how do you know if you have, for instance, reached the 4th stage of abstract thought because supposedly not everyone will reach it, or you can fluctuate between stages. Are you guarenteed, do you think, to be capable at least of reaching a higher stage through psychedelic drug use? Just some thought I had, been wondering lately if I am even able to think abstractly . . . :confused:




How do you know if abstract thinking isnt normal thinking?

Or how do you know if normal thinking isnt abstract thinking?




Thats the problem. Eh...maybe I'll be able to think abstractly tomorrow. night.


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2520371 - 04/03/04 12:55 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

According to the MBTI only 15% of the population uses abstract thought patterns...

It makes communication with the "normals" a bit difficult at times :smirk:


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Eschalt]
    #2520404 - 04/03/04 01:15 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Chris, your true talent is abstract reasoning

You are good at processing complex information in a clear and logical manner. Whether understanding a project's details or seeing the big picture behind a particular strategy, you appear to be more skilled than others when it comes to putting a collection of facts to use.

Your ability to look at information abstractly also implies that you have a rich imagination. Chances are, you're one of those rare people who can mix two unrelated ideas together to come up with a great new one. Most individuals aren't as skillful as you are at applying knowledge outside of its usual context. Your combination of strategic thinking and creativity can be an incredible value in a business environment.


not exactly "abstract thought" but "reasoning"
online quiz though.. meh.. that was a couple years ago when i was much heavier into psychedelics..
nowadays i just think i'm going crazy rather than thinking "outside the box"--when i say crazy, i don't just mean wierd like i've always been.. i've been going through some insane shit lately ;/


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: Eschalt]
    #2520419 - 04/03/04 01:27 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes I catch myself before I say things to people because I realize "woah, this is way too out there for this person to understand". The logic I employed to arrive the statement makes perfect sense to me, but after years of getting strange looks from people....well yeah. However, the few friends i have that are able to pick up on it, or at least enjoy the abstract nature of my thought patterns make it worth my while.

But this tends to make me shy around people I don't know very well, I don't want to say whats on my mind because lots of times other people don't even know how to respond...awkward silences aplenty. Explains why I'm usually a lurker on these boards too....


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Re: Thinking abstractly.. [Re: TheDude]
    #2520430 - 04/03/04 01:37 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, same here. Even in fields such as math, when I had to take tests I'd get the right answer but I'd get there in such a weird way that nobody knew what I was talking about. It does make sense if you follow it based on previous knowledge, but it seems some people have problems connecting knowledge and theories. Good for us, as those that can think as such occassionally turn into great minds.


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