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chinacat72
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Ecstacy Rising Help please 1
#2519395 - 04/02/04 03:25 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I need help please.
Last night eating supper in a bar with some family I saw the ABC special on ecstacy. I NEED THIS FUCKING TAPE BAD. This was a very acurrate view of Ecstacy and it's ban and the following consequences. I knew this special was going to be on ,but didn't stay home to record it becuase I figuered it would be propaganda and inaccurate info. I was wrong. I shows the fundamental flaws in our drug policy especially when dealing with psychedelics. This also showed the the goverment funded bad science supporting brain damage. In a nutshell it was a very good program.
I need a copy of this to show my elementary psychology students that I teach and peers and professers that don't understand my claims of the need for psychedelic research restrictions to be lifted.
PLEASE anybody that taped this PM me. It will be seen by alot of people it can influence.
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Learyfan
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2519463 - 04/02/04 03:43 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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You could get someone to tape it for you, but considering what you're doing with it, you should get the original.
CLICK HERE
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2519529 - 04/02/04 04:07 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah i missed it also ...there is a thread in OTD and they are raising money to get a copy
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: OldSpice]
#2519597 - 04/02/04 04:33 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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nice.. someone that can upload it should get it
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: buckwheat]
#2519619 - 04/02/04 04:43 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I caught the show and I couldn't believe what I was seeing!!! The otd thread gives a good description of what went on.
I liked the fact that they kept showing this huge pile of pills and they had "o.k" stamped on them! They could have used any pill design out there but they showed those over and over.
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Learyfan
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: Dankman]
#2519707 - 04/02/04 05:12 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I liked the fact that they kept showing this huge pile of pills and they had "o.k" stamped on them! They could have used any pill design out there but they showed those over and over.
Yeah. Were they subliminally telling us that ecstasy is........."ok"???
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: Learyfan]
#2519906 - 04/02/04 06:46 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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DAMNIT! I MISSED IT! I forgot to set my TiVo!
well i will have my DSL back in a few days so if someone can get a copy of it i can downloiad it and stick up an FTP for you guys!
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chinacat72
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: Learyfan] 1
#2519925 - 04/02/04 06:55 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I may be getting a copy. If I do i'll make a bunch of extra's. This needs to circulate. It had alot of intelligent info from some very well respected pioneers in the psychedelic community. It also showed how the DEA's emergancy scedualing of drugs does nothing ,but take it away from researchers and therapists while making the black market drugs more prevalant, costly and dangerous. Imagine if you could go to a special place were a trained professional could give you pure LSD or MDMA or ext. Making the experiance of a good and safe trip for everyone. This needs to happen for our survival. I'm not saying that psychedelics should be limited to the academic professional world, but they need to be included in it.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2519939 - 04/02/04 07:02 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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that would be the day that i "die"
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: Dankman]
#2519956 - 04/02/04 07:12 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I liked the fact that they kept showing this huge pile of pills and they had "o.k" stamped on them! They could have used any pill design out there but they showed those over and over.
Are you sure it wasn't "C.K."? I've never heard of E pills with "o.k." on them, but Calvin Kleins are a real batch of pills.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: silversoul7] 1
#2519977 - 04/02/04 07:21 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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yeah they were white ok's. they showed them a lot too, must have been a large bust.
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Learyfan
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2519994 - 04/02/04 07:28 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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If you're going to be making copies, I suggest getting the original. Otherwise your copies will be copies of copies. Good to hear that you'll be showing this to people.
SS7: No, the pills had "o.k"(yes O period K) stamp. I thought it was "CK"(Calvin Klein) , but they kept showing it, and it's obviously "O.K" whatever that is.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2520020 - 04/02/04 07:44 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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My friend recorded it onto his computer so i am going to get it sent to me but i dont know how to do anything with it after that aside from burn it onto a cd.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: solidshroom]
#2520037 - 04/02/04 07:59 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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watch it on the computer...burn a VCD of it and play it in your DVD player...give it to me
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: solidshroom]
#2520040 - 04/02/04 08:01 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I could probably host it for download if you could have it sent to me on aim/soulseek/whatever, I'd like to see it as well
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: DannyT]
#2520409 - 04/02/04 11:18 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I really want to see this show as well, i am so disapointed that i missed it. If anyone finds out somewhere to upload it from let us all know, i just got dsl and i love it.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2520713 - 04/03/04 02:49 AM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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good initiative china! very good idea to show students and especially the professers.
I study psychology and the professer on cognitive psychology tells about when you're smoking joints during learning you better smoke too before you have an exam (also said after that that sober was still the best way to go) I never smoke while learning btw, that wouldn't work for me
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: stefan] 1
#2520881 - 04/03/04 06:01 AM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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We studied that also in cognitive psy. It's called state dependent learning. There have been study's on it with many diffrent types of chemicals and states. Unfortunatly pot seems to not work as well(for some) as other drugs becuase of the temporary memory effects it has on STM. I do know some fellow grad students who smoke quite abit and they do very well with their study's. The most research study's seem to be done with amphetamine. If you stay up studying and use speed to help you then you need to get some sleep and when you take you exam be under the influence of speed. According to the research statistics there is a huge difference in taking the exam on speed and not taking it on speed if you have studied on speed. They have also done quite abit of these studies with benzodiazapines and alcohol.
State dependant learning is very useful in dealing with somebody that has undergone some traumatic event(ie rape) and repressed the memory. By getting the person in the emotional state they were in at the time of the incident you can get the memory to surface and deal with it from there. This is a very valuable tactic for a psychologist to have. I remember talking to a clinical psychologist who had a patient. She had been out one evening and somebody gave her Halcion. She didn't know what happened next, but the therapist knew it was something traumatic. He got permission and with the aid of a doctor gave her a dose of Halcion in a set and setting similiar to what she was in. She remembered that she had been raped by 2 people that were with her. Obviouslly this memory was always there ,but do to the trauma of it she repressed it out.
People who experiance trauma and repress their memory's have the potential to develop Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. An amazing thing about MDMA that we all know is that it can allow the memory's to surface and to be HEALED!!. This is so important for psychologist to have. Psychedelics in general have so much potential to help so many people. The fact that there illegal even for doctor's and psychologists and other professionals plain pisses me off. I mean it's bad enough that there illegal in the first place in a country that is supposedly based on a document that guarentee's us the right to pursue happiness. The fact that there are dying people that can't smoke pot, or people with addictions or other disorders that can't have psychedelics as a treatment option is a basic human rights violation.
Sorry for the ramble. It's morning and my coffee is kicking in.
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2521165 - 04/03/04 09:14 AM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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I wish I had seen the show myself, but like you, even had I known it was going to be on I would not have made a point of viewing it. It's truly rare to see accurate reporting content related to any scheduled substance these days.
That said, Way to go Chinacat
I would love to see accurate information given to our youth!
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Re: Ecstacy Rising Help please [Re: chinacat72]
#2521178 - 04/03/04 09:20 AM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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Sorry for the ramble. It's morning and my coffee is kicking in.
don't worry
state dependant learning, that was the right term now I remember. all these things are so interesting, glad I chose to study psychology
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