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Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning.
    #25186202 - 05/05/18 03:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Spray painted my sub level black to experiment with the myth that light creates side pinning. Here is proof that is nonsense.


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: USFCav]
    #25186219 - 05/05/18 04:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

We know this, the favorable conditions in the space between your sub and tub wall are what cause side pinning.


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: MrSturgill]
    #25186307 - 05/05/18 05:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Slightly off-topic but MrStrugill i get a goddam epileptic fit every time i come across you sig


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: Madoxx]
    #25186769 - 05/05/18 10:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

yeah it's a bit rough but i love it, i try not to spam it too much

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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: MrSturgill]
    #25186806 - 05/05/18 11:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Except I've used clear liners that stick to the sides of the sub and gotten side pins....

So... no microclimate, yet pins form when the liner is clear.

Explain?

Also your experiment is poorly conducted. There is plenty of room for light to get down the cracks between the sub and tote. :facepalm:

Just playing devils advocate here.


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25186812 - 05/05/18 11:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Wow that's funny because I've had the same thing happen with clear liners and wondered why tf it side pinned.... :confused:


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: Psicomb]
    #25187026 - 05/06/18 04:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

What makes you think it's a myth? Light is a pinning trigger. You can't remove all pinning triggers from the side of your substrate (full colonization) but if you take away the microclimate and light while providing ideal surface conditions the majority of pins should be forming there.

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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: bobwastaken]
    #25187143 - 05/06/18 07:23 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Calling this an experiment with proof is like calling yourself a mycologist after growing some shrooms. That being said

I always considered light as more of a secondary pinning trigger, while necessary for recreating the best conditions for fruiting, ime surface conditions are more important. Although in low light they will grow towards whatever natural light source is available, kinda like a sunflower. I'm wondering if you nocced up some brf jars and put them in a box in your closet for a couple months without light if you wouldn't get some invitro pins?

There are plenty of people who use liners and still get side pins, and plenty of people who don't use liners, and don't get any side pins, I don't think light is the main factor here.

Liners aren't going to make a perfect seal to your sub, microclimate by definition is "the climate of a very small or restricted area, especially when this differs from the climate of the surrounding area." If you don't want side pins make sure the conditions on the surface of your sub are the best place for your mushrooms to grow.

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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: MrSturgill]
    #25187188 - 05/06/18 07:48 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve seen many grows of people not even using a liner and having 0 side pins, if you keep your surface conditions perfect you will litterally never get them. Even though side pins don’t do anything bad fuck I made a tub with 1 qt of spawn 2 qts coir and got 60g dry side pins only.

I don’t know why I got like 5 mushrooms on top and every other one was on the sides but still results. Do you guys want your tubs to be good looking or have maximum dry weight? I go for weight for profit.

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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: USFCav] * 1
    #25187259 - 05/06/18 08:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Spray painted my sub level black to experiment with the myth that light creates side pinning. Here is proof that is nonsense.





Its been nonsense for 30+ years lol

But people still get cultivation info from old books, erowid, YouTube. And often repeat this shit old info. So there's still remnants of shit advice all around. This is why research is so important.



No side pins, no liner, clear tub


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Re: Proof!! Light does not trigger side pinning. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25191791 - 05/08/18 03:39 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome guys thanks for all your input.

I also have a different mono also no liner and this time no stupid spray paint  :facepalm3:
Surface area must have been much better in this tub bc I got a nice pin set on top with minimal side pinning. I'll keep working on better surface area techniques in my next tubs, but also not upset with my side pins.


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