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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25174184 - 04/29/18 06:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Probably tea.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25174245 - 04/29/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Im going to try a tissue culture experiment with Erythroxylum.
I have started a growlog where i plan to document my experiment, progress and setbacks.
I will start my first preparation steps tomorrow.
Maybe it will turn out to be above my skillevel but i want to try.
Who knows, it might work and i probably learn something at least.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo] * 1
    #25174257 - 04/29/18 07:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Im going to try a tissue culture experiment with Erythroxylum.
I have started a growlog where i plan to document my experiment, progress and setbacks.
I will start my first preparation steps tomorrow.
Maybe it will turn out to be above my skillevel but i want to try.
Who knows, it might work and i probably learn something at least.




Once you say tissue culture i think scientists stuff.

Goodluck. Hope it worka and then gives us hope. So we all can do sucj grand things.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25184102 - 05/04/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)



New growth looks really healthy compared to before :smile: Also showing buds / branching.. I think supplementing iron, magnesium and calcium hit the spot.

What do you think about dilute compost tea next time they look dreary?

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
    #25184303 - 05/04/18 03:38 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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New growth looks really healthy compared to before :smile: Also showing buds / branching.. I think supplementing iron, magnesium and calcium hit the spot.

What do you think about dilute compost tea next time they look dreary?




Looking good buddy. :fonz:

As for the conpost tea, do half strength. Remember less is more.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25186087 - 05/05/18 02:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)



Hoping the little guy pulls through. Not sure what's going on here exactly. That plant has never been as vigorous as it's larger counterpart.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #25186190 - 05/05/18 03:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Hoping the little guy pulls through. Not sure what's going on here exactly. That plant has never been as vigorous as it's larger counterpart.




My experience is that if a plant is never fully vigorous it tends to be a runt and will eventually have to be culled. The previous grow, mu final 2 plants one was viggorous the other not so much. But it grew. When it got cold the vigorous one died. I wasnt able to get home in time to save it. The other one slowly grew and eventually died. I would never have put money on it. Sorry to say.

Hope your planta do better Bigbadwoof.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25186276 - 05/05/18 04:37 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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For the magnesium (and calcium) I am putting some crushed antacid in my soil and to help things along maybe mix some up in acidified water.

For the iron, I took those so-called basic iron acetates I got from putting the iron filings in cleaning vinegar (for ebonizing wood), added citric acid and brought it to pH 3 and am now trying to see if I can use photoreduction by blue light to convert some of the Fe3  in there into Fe2 . But it is not strictly necessary, the Fe3  may act more like a time release form. Hopefully the citrate at least chelates some of the iron.

I think it helps that these plants grow in acidic soil, to make these metals less unavailable.




So this supplements above made your Novos perk up, Solipsis?
I might have some antacid tablets somewhere, how much you used?

Or i try find some ferts who has magnesium, calcium and iron chelate and try that.
My novo seedlings has very pale leafs i think i must try something.
The coca seedlings look much healthier.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo]
    #25186972 - 05/06/18 02:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I think while the soil in their native regions is acidic, it's also supposed to contain plenty of iron and lime off the top of my head??
I must warn about the antacids that it could make the pH matter pretty complicated, especially over time. Might require giving extra acidic water and dialing it in. Being a buffer of sorts it may be tricky to actually do that...

I spread about 1½ tablet's worth, and started carefully with one or two plants. Note that not antacids are the same, something like maalox has extra aluminum in there. And of course you definitely don't want proton pump inhibitor types which altogether don't apply.
It would be pretty shitty if I had to fix it, is not exactly easy to dig out of the soil again.

The iron acetates do seem like a pretty good idea in any case. If anything, the dosages aren't easy with makeshift supplements but I trust you can do it with feeling if the compounds are not way too soluble or too insoluble.

The photoreduction I couldn't test if it worked (might require very intense light), but it should be good as is if you make this from iron filings and vinegar.

As I adjusted to about pH 3 to make the iron optimal, it neutralizes the antacids a little.

I just don't have the money or interest to buy something like supplements for plants, even if I take growing my plants and fungi seriously... in the end I'd rather learn how to use alternatives.

Let me just report back in a month or two, then I feel better about advice based on what I did.

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
    #25192042 - 05/08/18 05:52 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My first E. novogranatense flower didn't make it. The second one has now opened and is visible in the picture. I tried to pollinate it with a cotton swap I previously used for the first flower. I have little hope for it though, but one can only try. The left one looks a bit yellowish since it's just starting to recover from a period of decline. The right one is growing swiftly again. They will soon be repotted.



And my two smaller E. coca plants. New growth on the left one likewise is a bit pale, but I gave them some freshly harvested worm castings recently, so I'm sure it'll be alright. These will also be repotted.



Homemade worm castings are used as a fertilizer for them and most of my other ethnobotanical plants.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
    #25193083 - 05/09/18 08:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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New growth looks really healthy compared to before :smile: Also showing buds / branching.. I think supplementing iron, magnesium and calcium hit the spot.

What do you think about dilute compost tea next time they look dreary?




I'm a bit surprised that your plants don't have any branches yet.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #25194801 - 05/10/18 05:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I was given the impression that pretty slow growth at that stage is par for the course but it clearly isn't? Really seems like my soil was not rich enough and in ways depleted and/or I didn't have enough organic matter to begin with. I'm still not really clear on whether I have not followed some info / cultivation instructions properly or whether some common tips might be overstated.

Quite possibly some of these elements were depleted already when I started and you're not really supposed to fertilize Novo's much at that point under normal circumstances so they wouldn't get supplemented normally. I guess make sure you use good charged soil to start with or even supplement a little almost from the start.

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Solipsis]
    #25194977 - 05/10/18 07:56 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

The repotting sure didn't come too early, since they were all rather root bound. They were growing in a soil mix high in sand content, which got a bit compacted. I made them a new potting mix containing small lava rocks, perlite, organic potting soil and a handful of worm castings. Their leaves started losing a bit of turgidity already by standing in the sun for 30 minutes, so I placed them back in the grow tent. Hopefully they will recover swiftly and start pushing out new and healthy growth again!


 

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25195880 - 05/10/18 03:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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The repotting sure didn't come too early, since they were all rather root bound. They were growing in a soil mix high in sand content, which got a bit compacted. I made them a new potting mix containing small lava rocks, perlite, organic potting soil and a handful of worm castings. Their leaves started losing a bit of turgidity already by standing in the sun for 30 minutes, so I placed them back in the grow tent. Hopefully they will recover swiftly and start pushing out new and healthy growth again!


 




My grow well under the shade of my tree. I never put them in full sun. Yours look great.:grampofapproval:


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #25204982 - 05/15/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

i still have all 11 of mine. this is the biggest one

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: GlitchInSpace]
    #25205623 - 05/15/18 01:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Your Cocas look great.
Mine is very sad looking.
But i see they start forming new leafs now and hopfully they soon is as green and healthy as yours.
The E.Coca is making very many new flowers as well as new leafs, too bad i dont have 2 big E.Coca plants to i can pollinate the flowers.
I have tried pollinate the E.Coca with E.Novo pollen but no berries have ever been developed.
Maybe in the future, i have small E.Coca seedlings.
When they look little better i post pics.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Mateo]
    #25208197 - 05/16/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Still alive after 14 days away. What survivors. :prettyflyforawhiteguy:


A repot is in order. I think a top dress of kelp meal, milorganite, a little bone and blood meal. Slow release ferts. Then watered with half strength kelp extract and fish emuksion to get things started.

What do you all think?


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25208219 - 05/16/18 02:44 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Well done, Ferrel! How did you keep them alive? They look very healthy and will probably appreciate a repotting! I'd say you can't go wrong with the organic, slow release fertilizer route.

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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25208290 - 05/16/18 03:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks man. I had them in that tub covered up with water at the bottom. Created a little bit of humidity. Honetly i wqs expecring ro get honw to a bunch of dead plants. I was definitly surpriswd.


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Re: Pruning and picking [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25208308 - 05/16/18 03:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

someone posted here a link to experiments for using apple vinegar to enhance drought tolerance

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