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OfflineMetaQuizzical
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Salvia Scalarea / Splendens
    #25172435 - 04/28/18 08:32 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I remember a long time ago people talking about activity in these.  Does anyone remember anything or have any anecdotes?


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: MetaQuizzical]
    #25175184 - 04/30/18 09:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I am doing a bioassay soon but I have talked to other people who have tried it and they get no effects from it.


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: Markosheehan]
    #25175303 - 04/30/18 10:51 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

From reports I've read on Salvia splendens I believe the effects to be placebo.


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #25175875 - 04/30/18 04:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

think I read something about nemorosa having opioid like effects... not sure though !


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: sidvivius]
    #25175882 - 04/30/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

As far as I know, only recognita and divinorium have any psychoactive properties


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: TheUpsideDown]
    #25175897 - 04/30/18 04:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

A highly recommended read on the topic: http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/knowledge-psychoactive-salvias.html

The only known species to contain Salvinorin are S. divinorum, S. recognita, S. glutinosa & S. cryptantha but many other species contain potentially active diterpenes, they might not be hallucinogenic as such but there's been many reports of psychoactivity.


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25177570 - 05/01/18 10:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Well Salvia miltiorrhiza, is most likely psychoactive. The seeds have stimulant  effects but the roots and flowers/ leaves have sedative effects I think. Does anyone have experience with this .?


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: Markosheehan]
    #25177583 - 05/01/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Also I am growing salvia microphylla this summer. Does anyone have any experience with this.

Which part of the plant has the strongest psychoactive effects..?


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: Markosheehan]
    #25177645 - 05/01/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Someone I know visited the Orto botanico di Pisa, in Italy. In this botanical garden, they have a collection of 150 species of the genus Salvia. Just thought I'd mention it.


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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25178926 - 05/01/18 09:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Salvia Scalarea / Splendens [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25179181 - 05/02/18 02:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Here's an interesting analysis of other species;

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28722248

Very few of the Salvia species (S. recognita, S. cryptantha and S. glutinosa) contained relatively high levels of salvinorin A (212.86 ± 20.46 μg/g, 51.50 ± 4.95 μg/g and 38.92 ± 3.74 μg/g, respectively). Salvinorin B was also found in Salvia species of S. potentillifolia, S. adenocaulon and S. cryptantha as 2351.99 ± 232.22 μg/g, 768.78 ± 75.90 μg/g and 402.24 ± 39.71 μg/g, respectively. The sequences of 5S-rRNA gene of 40 different Salvia species were presented and it was found that none of the Salvia species in Turkey had similar DNA sequence to Salvia divinorum plant.


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