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Pandemoon
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#25137645 - 04/14/18 05:28 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't let anybody tell you length is what matters, it's the diameter!

But sure one can measure in feet.. When I do so I talk about average diameter. I don't see a problem there..  "Thin cuttings have less alkaloids than thick cuttings of the same plant." Of course! But you are probably right, wheight is a better scale than length. Still not too accurate, as cacti vary so much in potency, but maybe more accurate than length.
The strongest trip I ever had was with 8" bridgesii tipcutting of 1.5 inches in diameter. It was very dehydrated, laied on it's side for more than a year and had sprout roots all over it's side, though.. Blew my mind completly. Like 7g of shrooms or so.. heavy!
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WeAreMushroom
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Pandemoon]
#25137655 - 04/14/18 05:44 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said:
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Don't let anybody tell you length is what matters, it's the diameter!

But sure one can measure in feet.. When I do so I talk about average diameter. I don't see a problem there..  "Thin cuttings have less alkaloids than thick cuttings of the same plant." Of course! But you are probably right, wheight is a better scale than length. Still not too accurate, as cacti vary so much in potency, but maybe more accurate than length.
The strongest trip I ever had was with 8" bridgesii tipcutting of 1.5 inches in diameter. It laied on it's side for more than a year and had sprout roots all over it's side, though.. Blew my mind completly. Like 7g of shrooms or so.. heavy!
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Definitely dosing is sort of a toss up if you're eating cacti you're brand new to.
I keep a journal of which strains I've eaten and which effects I get from them in grams-per-dose format.
At least half my garden is named trich clones so an entry would look something like:
"20g raw Eileen no. 3 planted 4/2016 eaten on 4/14/18, Felt expanding vision almost immediately, music enhancement, marked euphoria.
This experience came with an intense rush of stimulation and energy much like I get from LSD. Looking forward to trying 100g of this next time."
This way, for me at least, dosage is not so much guesswork.
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Pandemoon
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#25137656 - 04/14/18 05:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's a very good idea! 
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Pandemoon]
#25137904 - 04/14/18 08:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would chop up all your cactus, then put the pieces/stars in a dehydrator. once completely dry, grind to powder.
Then you can boil water with the all the mescaline and just keep boiling it down. Then split it.
or you could put the powder cactus in capsules and eat it that way.
Or you could even brew your cactus powder in a coffee maker and split it with your friend, Many many options.
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#25138100 - 04/14/18 10:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have everything for an A/B hcl extraction but I wanna try all the alkaloids before I try pure mescaline so I was leaning towards brewing up a strong 6 oz tea and split it with my friend. I've considered tar capsules but I feel like tea is the easiest way to do it (besides swallowing snot or expanding my gut with powder). ONE MORE QUESTION: How much San pedro would I need to add to these cacti to make it a strong brew for 2? In ft or lbs. Also I'm excited about this because I'm gonna be trying a Peruvian torch + bridgesii + San Pedro blend!! Thats a full spectrum trip if I've ever heard of it I'm gonna do 6 + pulls if I end up doing tea, I wanna get everything I can out of these cacti
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@ Pandemoon: You're the only one on Shroomery other than myself I've seen with the balls to eat the cactus raw.
Anybody else you know chomp them raw?

I feel like it's at least 30% more medicinal than any tea or extracted concentrate or whatever.
Mother Earth knew what she was doing when she made the cactus, adding excessive heat during drying or boiling for tea just wastes precious medicine IMO.

To OP: If you're making trea, I's chop your other pedro and add another 2 ft. to the brew cause it's gonna be way weaker than eating it raw.
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#25138144 - 04/14/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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WeAreMushroom said: @ Pandemoon: You're the only one on Shroomery other than myself I've seen with the balls to eat the cactus raw.
Anybody else you know chomp them raw?

I feel like it's at least 30% more medicinal than any tea or extracted concentrate or whatever.
Mother Earth knew what she was doing when she made the cactus, adding excessive heat during drying or boiling for tea just wastes precious medicine IMO.

To OP: If you're making trea, I's chop your other pedro and add another 2 ft. to the brew cause it's gonna be way weaker than eating it raw.
Im tempted to try eating it raw now haha I've read mescaline is hardy and doesn't lose potency with boiling? Not that your wrong, everyone on here has their own opinion, just trying to get yours. The way I could see loss in potency with tea is in not pulling enough out of the cactus when your brewing. That's why I was planning on doing 6+ pulls..
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Yeah, eating raw ist best imo. I've done it several times and my best trips were from eating raw plantmatter (the dark green flesh).
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#25139812 - 04/14/18 10:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Yeah, eating raw ist best imo. I've done it several times and my best trips were from eating raw plantmatter (the dark green flesh).
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My best trips have come from the crytsals I can't drink sludge let alone raw pieces. Don't get me wrong the tea is great and all the terpenes and phenolic compounds synergise nicely with mescaline, but i can't drink that shit. Literally i will puke it back into the glass after years of chug a lugs.
I'll eat peyote raw but when it comes to trichos i gotta turn em into Crystal. Less nausea most zang. Plus i know for sure this is 2 doses sitting on the scale. No guesswork no girth and length measuring to find out. Consistent every time. The same spiritual grandeur of the cactus experience is still there in tact in the crytsal.
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#25140001 - 04/15/18 12:48 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Psilosoulful] 1
#25141988 - 04/15/18 08:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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UPDATE: Bought myself some new cacti today. Quote:
Pandemoon said: Yeah, eating raw ist best imo. I've done it several times and my best trips were from eating raw plantmatter (the dark green flesh).
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UPDATE: We're gonna eat em raw  Next time I'll try pure hcl mescaline but I wanna get the most goodies out of my limited cacti for my first mescaline trip. I bought a few new cacti to add to my collection, how much would I need to add to this (image below) for two strong trips?

  I've heard these bridgesii clone B can be very potent, but I also have those two bridgesii clone A's. I also have this big ol San Pedro but I wanna leave it so it grows huge once I put it in the ground.
 What should I add to the dose in your opinions? I'm blasting off tomorrow so let me know what you guys think soon!
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PortabellaKindaGuy said: Next time I'll try pure hcl mescaline but I wanna get the most goodies out of my limited cacti for my first mescaline trip.
You should, pure mescaline hcl is so much nicer! 
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#25160977 - 04/23/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#25162135 - 04/24/18 11:23 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit!
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Portabellakindaguy: If you don't mind- How was the experience of actually eating the cactus flesh? I looked up a few trip reports on Erowid, and some folks wrote about having a pretty miserable experience physically, combined with rather mediocre psychedelic effects. Some said that they definitely got off, but the experience was rather flat, and not much fun. I would really like to try this, but I'm reluctant to sign up for ten hours or more of feeling like crap.
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: JWM]
#25167283 - 04/26/18 05:02 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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JWM said: Portabellakindaguy: If you don't mind- How was the experience of actually eating the cactus flesh? I looked up a few trip reports on Erowid, and some folks wrote about having a pretty miserable experience physically, combined with rather mediocre psychedelic effects. Some said that they definitely got off, but the experience was rather flat, and not much fun. I would really like to try this, but I'm reluctant to sign up for ten hours or more of feeling like crap.
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The taste of the Trichocereus is not pleasant, but if you don't have a weak stomach then its definitely do-able. I noticed out of the three cacti we ate, San Pedro was by far the worst tasting , the thick slime had a taste so bitter and pungent that we avoided eating the San Pedro till last. Bridgesii clone A was the most palatable of the three , the taste was still there but I found Bridgesii to be much less slimy and pungent . P. torch was quite similar to bridgesii A, but the strongest tasting of the three was bridgesii Clone B (penis, short). We ate a few pups each, but these ones tasted extremely peppery. It had a hint of spiciness that was pretty hard to get down. I would suggest eating your cactus before noon because I ate mine at 3:30pm and was tripping until I fell asleep at 3am. Staying up so late in a state of mental exertion definitely screwed up my sleep schedule big time for a few days. I felt the effects steadily coming down since I had peaked sometime around midnight. Expect a rising feeling about an hour and a half after ingestion. To me it felt like a low, ominous, completely inaudible hum slowly enveloped my body for the next 6 hours, getting stronger as time went on. By the time I peaked I had just gotten back home from a sunset picnic/hike/smoke sesh in the woods. Listening to loud music staring at posters on my wall is when I had the most visuals. I felt a little tired mentally for a few days after, but it just took a few nights of full sleep to get myself back to the norm. Take medication for nausea if you think you'll want it, but besides literally being full of raw cactus I didn't feel discomfort or "like crap". If anything, its a little headache the next morning. Very worth all those extra goodies you get out of your cactus that the high majority of extraction methods miss.
-------------------- Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit!
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Thanks for the response. I'm going to have to go for it, one way or another. If not raw, then the tea, or the tar. I have the time to mess with it. It seems that the word is, well, sort of out there on the San Pedro. They are pretty common here in So Cal. I noticed many of the ebay vendors are local. Craigslist has a few folks selling cuttings, as well. But they're already asking fifteen to twenty per foot. No one charges that for an ornamental.
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Re: Is this enough for 2 strong mescaline trips? [Re: JWM]
#25171653 - 04/28/18 12:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would look at my tutorial on how to prepare san pedro (works with Peruvian torch as well)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25171775
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