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Potentcy
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PF Tek - First timer 1
#25164655 - 04/25/18 02:31 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello guys! I decided to get ahold of spores and thought I’d give it a shot to grow them. The species of the spores are Fiji Cubensis. I’ve never grown shrooms before, only cultivated mmj. I went ahead and went with the PF Tek because it seemed easiest for a beginner and I don’t plan on growing a huge bulk amount. I’ve followed every single step exactly from the old “Let’s Grow Msuhrooms!” video except for 2 things. 1.) I unfortunately lost my tape and decided to just put foil over it without tape covering the holes 2.) when inoculation, I did not use a tub like the videos show for sterilization. I used my countertop (of course sterilized it) and gloves.
I’m currently Day 13 into colonization with 4 jars total, what are your guys thoughts? Anything I should be concerned about
Edited by Potentcy (04/26/18 12:40 AM)
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy] 1
#25165645 - 04/25/18 09:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Upload your pictures to the site so we can see them.
Take the foil off your jars now. The foil is only for sterilization. The dry vermiculite layer is your protective filter.
You can't 'sterilize' your kitchen counter. You can sanitize it to make it safe to eat off of but thats not even close to being 'sterile'
You can get away with doing PF jars without a still air box but the reason they do that in the video is because a still air box opens the doors to the world of mycology, more specifically, working with grains and petri dishes for which your kitchen counter is not going to cut it.
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Good luck.
Ditch the foil, its job is done now.
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It's kinda hard to make out the images clear when they're so big, but I don't see anything that stands out as bad. Maybe a slight yellowish tinge from bacteria, but that could be ok.
I can't add anything more to what Tiger already said.
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Ama420
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Jars look healthy, and everything tiger said
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25165907 - 04/26/18 12:28 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry I’m on mobile I’m trying to upload but won’t let me .. but thank you guys so far. Will update you guys on them and figure out why my phone let me upload.
EDIT; figured out the upload part. Took off the tin foil. Will I be fine with the holes on the top uncovered?
Edited by Potentcy (04/26/18 12:42 AM)
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25165929 - 04/26/18 12:56 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya man all looks good, the dry berm. On the top is suppose to be what's protecting everything in there from contams. The point of doing it inside a tub is to stop the air around the jars from moving. Even if you sanitize the countertop it doesn't stop the spores and microbes floating through the air from landing on your syringe tip, or from falling onto the spot your innoculating then getting pushed into the substrate when you insert the needle. Like you see with your success obviously you don't need it when innoculatong jars.
Looks good dude. Let us see the success !
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I know you said you're not spawning to bulk but consider checking this out
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24945782
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25165960 - 04/26/18 01:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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And if you decide to fruit as cakes DONT build a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Build one of these. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564#25103564
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25165962 - 04/26/18 01:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Potentcy
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25165965 - 04/26/18 01:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you. Will probably use that for next grow. I don’t plan for bulk right now due to this being my first time and would like to understand more about growing mushrooms. Appreciated much though my friend!
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: Good luck.
Ditch the foil, its job is done now.
This.
Also, if you have less cakes I'd either do what elastic said, or spawn them to bulk.
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elasticaltiger said: And if you decide to fruit as cakes DONT build a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Build one of these. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564#25103564
Here's how I get down on mini mono's. I recommend them more than shoe boxes honestly. Gets you used to dialing in tubs a bit better. Which scale the same into bigger tubs.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25105884/page/1
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25165967 - 04/26/18 01:40 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah no problem, I think a lot of people don't realize you can soawn cakes to bulk.
If I would have known when I had cakes I definitely would have.
Seems like it only helps increase the chances of getting fruits.
Good luck
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25165971 - 04/26/18 01:43 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was actually thinking of using a 20 gallon aquarium as that’s all I have right now till payday rolls around
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy] 1
#25165975 - 04/26/18 01:45 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Potentcy said: I was actually thinking of using a 20 gallon aquarium as that’s all I have right now till payday rolls around
eh. Buy a 10 dollar tote man, you'll get a 66 quart tote. Way better than a 20 gallon aquarium.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ziran]
#25165979 - 04/26/18 01:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Honestly just might go ahead and do that. Might as well make my time worth it
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elasticaltiger said: And if you decide to fruit as cakes DONT build a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Build one of these. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564#25103564
So is the monotub-SGFC hybrid model the next level shit?
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elasticaltiger
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said:
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elasticaltiger said: And if you decide to fruit as cakes DONT build a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Build one of these. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564#25103564
So is the monotub-SGFC hybrid model the next level shit?
No it's just the level that should always have been.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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So I’ve decided I’ll go ahead and go with a monotub for the fruiting chamber. Just still have to grab a few more supplies while I have the time. A couple questions though. 1.) I seen you put 6 quart boxes inside the tub and then filled the perlite up to the rim of the boxes. For those boxes and putting the mycelium in there, how would I go about that? Am I fine with just breaking it up by hand? 2.) is lighting necessary at all during the fruiting stage?
New pics today;
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25166627 - 04/26/18 11:34 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Breaking clean spawn up by hand is fine. Proper lighting is beneficial to all stages of growth .
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Neowynd8]
#25166773 - 04/26/18 12:39 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I should be giving it some sort of light even now? Because I honestly just put them in a cabinet and let them be
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25167010 - 04/26/18 02:46 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Light is beneficial at all stages of growth.
Do you have to give it to them? No. But it seems that mushrooms have a sort of circadian rhythm. The light cycle helps them somehow. It's not well understood yet.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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UPDATE; It’s been a few days now since I posted this and want to give an update. 1 jar appears fully colonized, the other 3 are 90% colonized. About when is best to throw them in the fruiting chamber?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25179887 - 05/02/18 12:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait a few days after they colonize for full consolidation. Just to make sure the middle is full.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25196763 - 05/10/18 11:27 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello guys! So tomorrow is the day I plan on putting everything in a fruiting chamber! But one problem.. I think I may have ran into contamination? Can someone please let me know? It’s only 1 jar that has it.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25196773 - 05/10/18 11:32 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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That doesn't look too scary. It's probably just metabolites, the piss given off by the myc.
Give the cakes a solid week of consolidation after they are 100%. Then when you birth them, give them a good sniff. If somethings wrong, it won't smell earthy and good like the others.
I think it's fine.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: joey]
#25203914 - 05/14/18 05:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seeing signs of mushroom growth ! Got 1 cake on tin foil and the other 3 soaking for 24 hours. I’m going to break those up and throw them in a small container I have. Will have more pics but here’s this
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said:
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elasticaltiger said: And if you decide to fruit as cakes DONT build a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Build one of these. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564#25103564
So is the monotub-SGFC hybrid model the next level shit?
wow.
ok.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: McGrimm]
#25204144 - 05/14/18 07:28 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would trim that foil back, allow better airflow around the cake
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25204146 - 05/14/18 07:29 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dont forget to roll in verm after the dunk if not crumbling the cakes
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25218883 - 05/21/18 02:49 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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5 days later in the fc, no bad smells, sprayed around the tub & on the perlite 1-2 times a day depending on the condensation, I fan 1-2 times a day as well. Generally before i go to bed & when I wake up type of schedule. Elevated off the ground, and yes I decided sgfc because it’s cheapest for my budget. I know some people told me not to but it’s trial and error. And also I’m growing for personal. Here’s an updated pic of them below. 1 cake doesn’t have verm on it because it wasn’t actually dunked at all due to a mushroom forming and my thoughts were to just take it out and put in the fc. that’s my mistake if that is an issue. Lemme know if I need improvements (and not trying to tell me I need to do a different fc)
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25218890 - 05/21/18 02:52 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mist cakes directly, mushrooms dont grow on the tub or perlite. Fanning is pointless, your chamber has holes all over. How close is the sgfc to the wall? Want to make sure you have room for airflow 360 degrees around it. Cut the foil down to allow better air around cakes dont need it but the size of cakes
Edited by Ama420 (05/21/18 02:53 PM)
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25218894 - 05/21/18 02:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everything he said, and Trim the foil close to the cakes & bring them all close together.
Nothing wrong with a sgfc as long as you built it right.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: LtLurker] 1
#25218895 - 05/21/18 02:57 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is how i used to set mine up
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25218899 - 05/21/18 03:01 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I shoved even closer and tighter foil than it looks in that picture. I do like this. The tighter it is the better the micro climate.
That set-up looks nice ama.
Edited by LtLurker (05/21/18 03:03 PM)
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: LtLurker] 1
#25218924 - 05/21/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with creating the microclimate ltlurker. I keep mine a little farther apsrt so fruits have room to grow, but no wrong with either. And thank you, i try to stay clean and organized
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25220360 - 05/22/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Okay, so I took advice from you great people and did a few fixes. I cut the tin foil down, spaced out the cakes more, misted the cakes directly and made sure no water stayed sitting, pulled it a little further away from the wall (its the only space I have so it kinda has to be near a wall)
I got signs on 3 out of 4 of the cakes growing pins
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25225300 - 05/24/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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2 days later and these pins are really starting to show! However 1 cake has no signs of pins.. and it happens to be the one I mistakenly didn’t dunk and roll in verm. Should it be tossed or let it ride out and see if anything will happen?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25225323 - 05/24/18 11:05 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice pins. As long as that cake isn't showing signs of being contaminated, leave it. They don't all grow at the same speed, some will just be slower than others.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: LtLurker]
#25228407 - 05/25/18 05:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just a quick question if anyone can answer, I have my tub next to a wall but not too close where there is at least a good amount of air exchange to the side closes to the wall. Does me rotating the tub everyday really make a difference? Or am I wasting time rotating the tub ?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25228463 - 05/25/18 05:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If one side is pourer conditions why rotate all sides throughout that? Let 3 good sides and 1 not so good side. How far is it from the wall?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25228475 - 05/25/18 05:52 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Naw man I doubt it will make a noticeable difference bro
Don't stress it imo
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25229435 - 05/26/18 07:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Possible contam? This cake seems to be giving me the most hassle and it’s the only one I didn’t dunk n roll.
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25229460 - 05/26/18 07:53 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How long has it been there ? If it feels light you could try redunking for 12 hours or something then roll in verm.
May want to trim there foil down to a circle or just fold it in a bit the push the corners down so it's kind of like a hill or mound to prevent any water pooling and to allow the air currents not to be blocked by the foil
Some people use their lods, could wrap an extra kid in foil if you have any but it's not a big deal
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Enkidu]
#25229501 - 05/26/18 08:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just noticed the bluing on the top today, I also noticed pins finally today along the bottom of that cake. The other 3 are doing great, nice healthy shrooms forming. I do have mushies splitting on 1 cake, can that be from over misting or anything specific like that?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25229769 - 05/26/18 11:17 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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That cake is dry, a dunk and roll after birth will make a noticable difference
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Ama420]
#25229879 - 05/26/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah id say its struggling for water, dunk and roll.
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Dunk and roll even with it having pins on it?
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25229906 - 05/26/18 12:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would.
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I am very excited to follow this thread lol
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Just an update for you guys, I have the cake still in the dunking process and will roll in verm a little later on today. The other 3 cakes though are doing great! Check them out
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tripdawg420
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Re: PF Tek - First timer [Re: Potentcy]
#25231344 - 05/27/18 07:55 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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