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Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures
#25163257 - 04/24/18 08:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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By the way, they knew that Cannabis had significant potential to kill cancer as far back as 1974... They crushed the data from academic research that the government sponsored that they hoped would show Cannabis caused cancer... They apparently shit themselves when the research proved just the opposite... I think it sucks that a pharmaceutical company is being issued a patent on something found in nature. It's another example of the FDA bedding down with corporations... There's nothing we can do...
Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Nikon Addict]
#25163284 - 04/24/18 08:36 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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How in the fuck do you patent THC?
Also, why is the author of the article "admin"
If you read the article, however, it does explain what would be patented
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On the other hand, the first clinical trial to investigate these cancer treatments only began last month, launched by GW Pharmaceuticals for their cannabis drug Sativex.
The trial investigates Sativex in combination with the standard chemotherapy drug temozolomide, and involves 20 patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme (GBM), an aggressive and rare form of brain cancer.
Edited by sh4d0ws (04/24/18 08:38 PM)
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chibiabos
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: sh4d0ws] 2
#25163440 - 04/24/18 10:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're not patenting THC. They're patenting a regimen of treatment that makes use of THC and CBD.
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: chibiabos]
#25163575 - 04/25/18 12:17 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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i wonder are they just guessing, or what? what makes theyre ratios and dosages better than the patient taking a random flower and tokin up???
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Veihler]
#25163599 - 04/25/18 12:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont see how they can patent a schedule 1 substance, but its been done with marinol
In this case its probably out of context
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Fractal420]
#25163610 - 04/25/18 01:13 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah it is more the patent of the thc to cbd ratio in a concentrated way.
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: chibiabos]
#25163706 - 04/25/18 02:57 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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chibiabos said: They're not patenting THC. They're patenting a regimen of treatment that makes use of THC and CBD.
Yes, which I went on to explain in my post
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25163720 - 04/25/18 03:41 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wonder if RSO is patented. Along with all those c02 cart/pod brands, and edibles. I wonder if companies like Korova have actual patents on their cannabis products and actual recipes for both canna- oil and the chocolate mixture as well
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Fractal420]
#25164119 - 04/25/18 09:13 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rso is not patented in any way and all the people selling rso are just using the name brand simpsons set up. Evem the phoenix tears us branch is unaffiliated due to the legality issues.
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Veihler]
#25164404 - 04/25/18 12:04 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fractal420 said: I dont see how they can patent a schedule 1 substance, but its been done with marinol
Because patents and scheduling are entirely separate processes. They don't interact.
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Veihler said: i wonder are they just guessing, or what?
More than likely. It's common in the pharmaceutical industry to patent molecules before any testing is done at all.
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Fractal420]
#25165100 - 04/25/18 05:32 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So many of you in this thread just jump straight to posting your thoughts without even reading the article. I don't understand it. The title of the article is clickbait, for starters.
Here is EXACTLY what is being patented:
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"The subject patent specifically covers a method for treating glioma in a human using a combination of cannabidiol (CBD) and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) wherein the cannabinoids are in a ratio of from 1:1 to 1:20 (THC:CBD) with the intent to reduce cell viability, inhibit cell growth or reduce tumor volume.”
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#25165148 - 04/25/18 05:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eh, if this somehow got rid of chemo I'd be fine with it
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Konyap]
#25173072 - 04/29/18 09:00 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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THC and cbd cannot b patented.. their use may be IN a patent, but the specific compounds themselves will never BE the patent... bad link for the article cant read it They have to create a synthetic to legally patent
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: natzyshroomer]
#25173086 - 04/29/18 09:08 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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natzyshroomer said: THC and cbd cannot b patented.. their use may be IN a patent, but the specific compounds themselves will never BE the patent... bad link for the article cant read it They have to create a synthetic to legally patent
The article is misleading. Nobody patented actual delta9-thc or cannabidiol. Just some bs product.
And again, i wonder if theres a patent on RSO.
Thats one thing that deserves a patent. But in our current 420 climate, im not sure if intellectual property and owning ideas or ratios is a good thing, since most of us want it out of the hands of pharma and big corporations.
Id be surprised if popular brands like KingPen710 havent already been bought or invested in by corps. Edibles and c02 products and such seem to be getting more and more available (in non-legal states) and even overshadowing the weed. Thats been going on forever in places like cali but in my town, its interesting that everyone has a vape pen now and cartridge connects.
I see vape c02 more than i see people smoking weed. ESPECIALLY the generation Z "millenials". And mostly they dont even smoke weed. They like adderall and coke. (Its possibly very different in colorado and such but even in LA i notice the young people really arent that into cannabis) I guess gen Y are technically millenials too, but i think have more respect for actual cannabis, can run dos, lol
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Edited by Fractal420 (04/29/18 09:16 AM)
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Fractal420]
#25173107 - 04/29/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fractal420 said:Nobody patented actual delta9-thc or cannabidiol. Just some bs product.
I'm curious, why do you think that a process designed to cure people of brain tumors is "bs"? Do you not want people to have the option to treat their brain tumors with THC and CBD, as prescribed?
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#25173128 - 04/29/18 09:31 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, thats not how i meant it. I just meant its not a patent on thc or cbd. Simply due to the title being misleading
I think anyone who wants thc or cbd should be able to get it. And im about to use thc and a small amount of cbd right now lol.
When i said "some bs" i just meant the patent itself is, IMO, not that important. CBD and THC are important.
To be clear. Lol. Are you kidding man? My name here is Fractal420. I love weed. I meant that people who want thc and cbd for brain tumors can usually get them. I think RSO is good for that (a friend of mine has terminal cancer and it helps him immensely), thats why i said RSO should be patented (30% thc, 30% cbd)
Does it have to be prescribed? No. Even that particular friend in his state doesnt want any kind of oversight like that. He wants to dab or hit some c02 when he gets the urge to projectile vomit. And apparently it helps alot. He needs to do it FAST though
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Fractal420]
#25174790 - 04/30/18 03:43 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting, the form of cancer that the article refers to - glioblastoma multiforme - is exactly the type of cancer that took Terence McKenna.
Apparently he made a comment to his specialist to the effect that marijuana didn't help him, so lets hope the ratios help people in that situation.
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Re: Drug Maker Will Soon Hold Patent On THC, CBD As Cancer Cures [Re: Bluing]
#25192512 - 05/08/18 09:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they own this patent and do nothing with it then in theory noone can attempt to create
"cannabinoids are in a ratio of from 1:1 to 1:20 (THC:CBD) with the intent to reduce cell viability, inhibit cell growth or reduce tumor volume.”
The process of patenting sounds degenerate to me in some ways, while good in some others.
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