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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25161952 - 04/24/18 09:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Low flush with long skinny fruits and high abort rate would tell me too much humidity/wet mycelium. Could I️t have just gotten a bit dry, recently triggering pinning? RH in a monotub need only be 80-85% to trigger pinning. The substrate will keep about 95% RH in its own microclimate. The fruits don’t look bad. Looks like a few of those lil guys will abort though. First flush?





Yes, it is the first flush. What i need to do is drilling more bigger holes and fill them with polyfill?

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
    #25162662 - 04/24/18 03:34 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah. Spread them out evenly a few inches above where the substrate would be. Approx 4” diameter holes. Fill holes with poly-fill(fish tank filter) Look up how to make a monotub. If you do not, you may continue to struggle. That mycelium needs proper FAE. I️t is loaded w moisture.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25162699 - 04/24/18 03:57 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I've got polyfill loosely in the top holes of my tub and 3M transpore tape over the bottom holes.  Should I stick with that or put polyfill in the bottom holes as well?

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: topsykretts]
    #25162754 - 04/24/18 04:30 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Submit pics if you want advice. Only know lacai’s situationYour fruiting chamber sounds like a Frankenstein between monotub and SFC

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25163085 - 04/24/18 06:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

What do you think about this another substrate which has been for 20 days and no pins come at all?

I see little spot turns blue.




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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25163410 - 04/24/18 10:02 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah. Spread them out evenly a few inches above where the substrate would be. Approx 4” diameter holes. Fill holes with poly-fill(fish tank filter) Look up how to make a monotub. If you do not, you may continue to struggle. That mycelium needs proper FAE. I️t is loaded w moisture.




4" holes?  Is that a typo or do you really mean 4 inch holes?

That is far larger than any I have seen on a monotub on shroomery.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #25163688 - 04/25/18 02:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Gonna use this Tek, thank you!

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: MrRipley]
    #25165572 - 04/25/18 08:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Is this too dry? Also does anyone notice any hyphal knots yet?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Celium]
    #25165802 - 04/25/18 10:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yes. Looks like your sub could use some more colonizing but those hyphal knots should pin in two days or so if conditions are right

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
    #25165805 - 04/25/18 10:45 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Lacai, your mycelium looks too wet. Those craters are from large water droplets falling and settling, not great for fruiting. Give more FAE.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25166024 - 04/26/18 03:24 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Thank Dr. green. I will do as you suggest.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
    #25166095 - 04/26/18 04:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Remember that pins love fresh air. They need consistency until the mushroom is 3/4 developed. You don’t want all your work stalling/drying/flooded out.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25173895 - 04/29/18 04:04 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent thread here.:thumbup:
Tomorrow will be day 10 on this tub. Even spread through out the surface and no bare valleys.

Should I start increasing the FAE? Gonna check the hospital pharmacy for paper micro pore tape, closest I've been able to find is the cloth kind elsewhere short of the web.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
    #25174007 - 04/29/18 05:02 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yes your rhizo looks perfect. You should notice knots in about 5 days or less. You can literally leave the tape on and fan by eye, or go to your local pet store/Michaels arts store and get a bag of poly fill. It’s used for teddy bears or fish tank filters in case you need to ask a store employee. I️ use the polyfill and still fan sometimes/ mist as needed. Misting is not necessary but when you get good at letting your myc talk to you you will lean little tricks to increase yield. For instance I️ keep pin sized beads of water on my myc with a lot of fae until mushrooms get to about 3/4 growth where they will visually suck all the water up. I’ve noticed longer, thicker and juicier mushrooms with less aborts.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
    #25174011 - 04/29/18 05:03 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

You are doing very well for being so new.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25174154 - 04/29/18 06:34 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)


Been keeping up with figuring out the best wetness for substrate and it started to grow fairly fast now that it was. They look like it don't like growing under the sub yikes haha

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25174181 - 04/29/18 06:48 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Can anyone give me advice on this?

The pins were formed with slow growth. I see some black head pins, some brown. I guess all of them are ok, right?

Why are most of them heading one side? Is it due to the light?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
    #25174218 - 04/29/18 07:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

From the looks I would guess it could be light, lack of FAE, lack of water.

Wait for a reliable answer though.

That's the first flush?

That's what my flushes look like on like round 4 when my sub is spent


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
    #25174271 - 04/29/18 07:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes your rhizo looks perfect. You should notice knots in about 5 days or less. You can literally leave the tape on and fan by eye, or go to your local pet store/Michaels arts store and get a bag of poly fill. It’s used for teddy bears or fish tank filters in case you need to ask a store employee. I️ use the polyfill and still fan sometimes/ mist as needed. Misting is not necessary but when you get good at letting your myc talk to you you will lean little tricks to increase yield. For instance I️ keep pin sized beads of water on my myc with a lot of fae until mushrooms get to about 3/4 growth where they will visually suck all the water up. I’ve noticed longer, thicker and juicier mushrooms with less aborts.




Thanks Greenthumbs I got plenty of poly but from what I've been reading and seeing here the micro pore tape seems like the way to go. If it comes to that I got it on hand. :thumbup:

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You are doing very well for being so new.



Don't jinx me lol. I think the jury may still be out on that one. :tongue:
I Just keep reading and cramming info, asking questions and weighing consensus. I give credit to you guys, patience, luck and keeping busy with other myc related projects so I don't jump the gun and newb out on what I already got going. Threw out my first triched dry verm layered PF jar today and kinda saw that comming after the 2nd week. Then PC'ed some BRF tyvek filter SHIPed PFs today. As soon as I feel the itch to mess with what I already got I start something new.

Again, thanks and on with the thread. :popcorn:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
    #25174342 - 04/29/18 08:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I don't often light them unless when i wanna check pins. I search some topics here and some guys said mushhrooms really don't need light.


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From the looks I would guess it could be light, lack of FAE, lack of water.

Wait for a reliable answer though.

That's the first flush?

That's what my flushes look like on like round 4 when my sub is spent



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