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SGFC Questions an feedback
#25159028 - 04/23/18 12:30 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello family I just recently birthed 2 more of cakes for a total of 4 an need feedback I feel like my humidity is low or my chamber lacks FAE take a look at this pics any feedback is appreciated
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25159049 - 04/23/18 12:45 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well at least it started pinning, I would probably wait a bit more to see how it goes, and not stress out so much
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: iux]
#25159054 - 04/23/18 12:49 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya early pinning on 2 cakes put there getting bigger been 1 day im new just jumping the gun lol
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25159166 - 04/23/18 02:45 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Humidity doesn't really mean anything on this scale. What you want are surface conditions that are dialed in.
Sgfcs tend to dry out cakes with how airy they are. Keep your cakes gently moistened while allowing time between mistings for evaporation.
You can grow in open air on your kitchen counter just by misting frequently.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25159247 - 04/23/18 05:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello family I just recently birthed 2 more of cakes for a total of 4 an need feedback I feel like my humidity is low or my chamber lacks FAE take a look at this pics any feedback is appreciated
You can place the cakes more towards the center where the air is more humid and keep the cakes away from the drier air by the sides.
And if you still keep running into humidity issues with the SGFC then you can simply place the cakes inside a shoebox or a small tub and as long as the bottom of the tub contains something wet or moist that will evaporate off moisture and keep the humidity levels up. I place hydrated coir inside small shoeboxes and fruit the cakes in there. No misting needed. Let me repeat that. No misting needed.
I misted 3 times anyway between birth and second flush, but upon reflection I probably didn´t even need to mist once with this setup. It looks like this
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25159252 - 04/23/18 05:16 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mataeh i like your new sig. Thats exactly how i learned.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Yesum]
#25159260 - 04/23/18 05:27 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I have this bad habit of not clicking threads that don't sound interesting but when I force myself to read threads from the top down I always end up learning something.
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Yesum said: Mataeh i like your new sig. Thats exactly how i learned. 
Thanks homie I haven´t been active for a while so I thought I might as well try to be helpful even tho I don´t post lol, if it helps one or two people than the purpose is fulfilled 
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elasticaltiger said: Yeah I have this bad habit of not clicking threads that don't sound interesting but when I force myself to read threads from the top down I always end up learning something.
Exactly, the same basic questions get answered over and over in all the big threads and this is one of the tricks that make information stick if you read trough a whole thread as a noob.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25159909 - 04/23/18 01:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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im having FAE issues an some pins have aborted or the veil opened super early when there like hlf an inch long
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elasticaltiger said: Yeah I have this bad habit of not clicking threads that don't sound interesting but when I force myself to read threads from the top down I always end up learning something.
elastic. have you checked out how those cakes have been doing the hybrid? I need to update it again. But from what I can tell, you dont have to mist as often as with a SGFC
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25160101 - 04/23/18 02:37 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your tub is very clearly not built properly. You need more holes in a grid pattern. Don't skip on that part.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25160122 - 04/23/18 02:45 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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A proper chamber is key, forget humidity. Damp perlite does enough. Glistening surface is what matters most to get yield
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25160261 - 04/23/18 03:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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SGFC works pretty well if you are experienced and know exactly how to maintain proper surface conditions. But then again experienced growers don´t suddenly start building SGFC´s.
IMO SGFC is not the ideal option for beginners. The method I mentioned with shoeboxes doesnt even require misting, I have always had better results and less maintenence this way.
OP should try both methods and see what works best for him!
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25160438 - 04/23/18 05:24 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I started with pf tek and sgfc. In my experience it was the easiest cultivation i have done, just not a big yield. My second grow i got over an ounce dry weight off 5 cakes. OP questioned about sgfc, i give knowledge i know, not switch topic.
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stareatclouds said: Your tub is very clearly not built properly. You need more holes in a grid pattern. Don't skip on that part.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25160451 - 04/23/18 05:29 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Get more holes drilled in the sgfc, a few more inches of perlite, and focus surface conditions. Think of dew on the lawn. Small droplets of water to glistening sparkle.
The biggest problem is beginners not reading and following teks properly. No offense to anybody but you follow instructions you get success, at least for best yields. Almost any setup can get results, but good results can be had by following what people have put years into to help.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161324 - 04/23/18 11:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a smaller 32 q tub with no holes I could throw some perlite in there is that an option
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161327 - 04/23/18 11:33 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should I plug up all the holes an just fan out by hand
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161334 - 04/23/18 11:37 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ama420 said: Get more holes drilled in the sgfc, a few more inches of perlite, and focus surface conditions. Think of dew on the lawn. Small droplets of water to glistening sparkle.
The biggest problem is beginners not reading and following teks properly. No offense to anybody but you follow instructions you get success, at least for best yields. Almost any setup can get results, but good results can be had by following what people have put years into to help.
this.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25161498 - 04/24/18 02:33 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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jeezy1021 said: I have a smaller 32 q tub with no holes I could throw some perlite in there is that an option
Just so you know A TON on new growers have built their SGFC to the specs and still their cakes are drying out too fast or are overly wet.
I have tried the "alternative method" with 32L tubs and it works great, really anything wet inside a tub will create proper humidity in an unmodified tub. You could even cram in a lot of cakes inside an unmodified tub or a shoe box and the cakes themselves will evaporate off the needed humidity in the chamber.
SGFC works when you know how to maintain proper micro climate at all times, but most beginners actually have much better success with spawning BRF cakes to bulk or fruiting the cakes in another FC like the one I proposed.
This topic is kind of sensitive and I might get shit for giving you this advice but like I said don´t take peoples word for it, test it out for yourself and see what works best for you. GL
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161505 - 04/24/18 02:40 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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jeezy1021 said: I have a smaller 32 q tub with no holes I could throw some perlite in there is that an option
Just so you know A TON on new growers have built their SGFC to the specs and still their cakes are drying out too fast or are overly wet.
I have tried the "alternative method" with 32L tubs and it works great, really anything wet inside a tub will create proper humidity in an unmodified tub. You could even cram in a lot of cakes inside an unmodified tub or a shoe box and the cakes themselves will evaporate off the needed humidity in the chamber.
SGFC works when you know how to maintain proper micro climate at all times, but most beginners actually have much better success with spawning BRF cakes to bulk or fruiting the cakes in another FC like the one I proposed.
This topic is kind of sensitive and I might get shit for giving you this advice but like I said don´t take peoples word for it, test it out for yourself and see what works best for you. GL
check it mateah. not to much yet but yep it seems a lot less dry.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564/page/2
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161506 - 04/24/18 02:40 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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just got back from working i didnt mist or fan for8 or so hours came back to condensation an a shit ton of growth on my 2 previous cakes there coming along i guess will post pics in the morning
NEW QUESTION : seeing condensation on my walls after 8 hours no fanning or misting is good right >?
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25161510 - 04/24/18 03:12 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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jeezy1021 said: just got back from working i didnt mist or fan for8 or so hours came back to condensation an a shit ton of growth on my 2 previous cakes there coming along i guess will post pics in the morning
NEW QUESTION : seeing condensation on my walls after 8 hours no fanning or misting is good right >?
Means the internal temp is warmer than the outside of it causing condensation.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25161536 - 04/24/18 03:32 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never fan my sgfc
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25161538 - 04/24/18 03:33 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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jeezy1021 said: I have a smaller 32 q tub with no holes I could throw some perlite in there is that an option
Just so you know A TON on new growers have built their SGFC to the specs and still their cakes are drying out too fast or are overly wet.
I have tried the "alternative method" with 32L tubs and it works great, really anything wet inside a tub will create proper humidity in an unmodified tub. You could even cram in a lot of cakes inside an unmodified tub or a shoe box and the cakes themselves will evaporate off the needed humidity in the chamber.
SGFC works when you know how to maintain proper micro climate at all times, but most beginners actually have much better success with spawning BRF cakes to bulk or fruiting the cakes in another FC like the one I proposed.
This topic is kind of sensitive and I might get shit for giving you this advice but like I said don´t take peoples word for it, test it out for yourself and see what works best for you. GL
check it mateah. not to much yet but yep it seems a lot less dry.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25103564/page/2
As I was trying to say, ANY fruiting chamber other than SGFC will work great for cakes for beginners, and why even bother drilling holes when you can grow cakes in shoeboxes or unmodified tubs? 
Trying to keep it as simple as possible and as little maintanence as possible. With my setup you don´t even have to mist AT ALL...
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161544 - 04/24/18 03:38 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161545 - 04/24/18 03:42 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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       If done properly, even beginners can have great yields in sgfc. There are always alternative. I mist 2 times a day, the only maintenance my chamber requires. The chamber needs to be built to spec though. It doesnt matter what chamber you use, your surface conditions are what give you results. You can grow them on your kitchen counter in open air, just takes a lot of misting. Fanning is outdated. Those cakes need to glisten, keep a fine mist of droplets on them.
No mateah, talking to OP
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161547 - 04/24/18 03:48 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
Everyone needs to read this!!
Use a chamber best for your needs, the surface conditions are most important!!
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161554 - 04/24/18 03:53 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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ive grown some good cakes in a sgfc as well. OPs problem is he doesnt have a built to spec chamber lol. its a simple fix really.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161559 - 04/24/18 04:00 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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The point is that that I have been watching newbs fail with mini substrates inside SGFC for years. If you know how to maintain proper surface conditions you can make it work inside a SGFC, open air, on a kitchen top, on the floor under your bed, on your grandmas ballsack so on and so forth.  But when you have very low RH in your grow area and you place mini substrates inside a tub that has 500-1000 holes in it then you can expect running into problems if you´re not on your game.
But with the methods I´ve mentioned you dont even have to mist and you can grow in an area that is at 0%(zero)RH. Minimal maintenence, minimal risk of failure.. All the best cake grows on this forum have been fruited in something other than a SGFC, do you think it´s a coincidence?
My mission here is to make sure that new growers have maximum chance of success that´s why I was a big proponent of spawning cakes instead of fruiting them inside the SGFC, just look around and see how much bigger success growers are having with spawning cakes instead of placing them in the shotgun.
At the end of the day I´m just looking to show people how they can make their Pf Tek grows more effective with less chance of failure and with less maintenence. 
These BRF cakes were grown in a room with 0% RH, I misted 3 times between birth and second flush but I really didn´t need to mist at all.
      
Can you do this with a SGFC in 0% RH?
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25161561 - 04/24/18 04:02 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ziran said: ive grown some good cakes in a sgfc as well. OPs problem is he doesnt have a built to spec chamber lol. its a simple fix really.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161566 - 04/24/18 04:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mateah said: The point is that that I have been watching newbs fail with mini substrates inside SGFC for years. If you know how to maintain proper surface conditions you can make it work inside a SGFC, open air, on a kitchen top, on the floor under your bed, on your grandmas ballsack so on and so forth.  But when you have very low RH in your grow area and you place mini substrates inside a tub that has 500-1000 holes in it then you can expect running into problems if you´re not on your game.
But with the methods I´ve mentioned you dont even have to mist and you can grow in an area that is at 0%(zero)RH. Minimal maintenence, minimal risk of failure.. All the best cake grows on this forum have been fruited in something other than a SGFC, do you think it´s a coincidence?
My mission here is to make sure that new growers have maximum chance of success that´s why I was a big proponent of spawning cakes instead of fruiting them inside the SGFC, just look around and see how much bigger success growers are having with spawning cakes instead of placing them in the shotgun.
At the end of the day I´m just looking to show people how they can make their Pf Tek grows more effective with less chance of failure and with less maintenence. 
These BRF cakes were grown in a room with 0% RH, I misted 3 times between birth and second flush but I really didn´t need to mist at all.
      
Can you do this with a SGFC in 0% RH?
Talking about 0%rh but you have damp material in the bottom of your chamber? 
I never worry about humidity, no matter what it is i have been able to fruit
Surface conditions, surface conditions, SURFACE CONDITIONS
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161569 - 04/24/18 04:10 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mateah said: The point is that that I have been watching newbs fail with mini substrates inside SGFC for years. If you know how to maintain proper surface conditions you can make it work inside a SGFC, open air, on a kitchen top, on the floor under your bed, on your grandmas ballsack so on and so forth.  But when you have very low RH in your grow area and you place mini substrates inside a tub that has 500-1000 holes in it then you can expect running into problems if you´re not on your game.
But with the methods I´ve mentioned you dont even have to mist and you can grow in an area that is at 0%(zero)RH. Minimal maintenence, minimal risk of failure.. All the best cake grows on this forum have been fruited in something other than a SGFC, do you think it´s a coincidence?
My mission here is to make sure that new growers have maximum chance of success that´s why I was a big proponent of spawning cakes instead of fruiting them inside the SGFC, just look around and see how much bigger success growers are having with spawning cakes instead of placing them in the shotgun.
At the end of the day I´m just looking to show people how they can make their Pf Tek grows more effective with less chance of failure and with less maintenence. 
These BRF cakes were grown in a room with 0% RH, I misted 3 times between birth and second flush but I really didn´t need to mist at all.
      
Can you do this with a SGFC in 0% RH?
If i was gonna grow cakes. Ive been around enough to know Mateah has put in the actual time and experience with these new hybrid chambers. 110% he knows his shit and cake makers would do good to listen. "Proof is in the pics".
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161571 - 04/24/18 04:14 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Talking about 0%rh but you have damp material in the bottom of your chamber? 
I never worry about humidity, no matter what it is i have been able to fruit
Surface conditions, surface conditions, SURFACE CONDITIONS
If you pay a little more attention you will notice that I´m talking about the RH in the grow area. If you know anything about the SGFCis that it doesnt work that well in an area of 0% RH. And please stop with these things like laughing and trying to oneup and what not. This is a serious discussion and lets be informative.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25161573 - 04/24/18 04:17 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ziran said: problem is he doesnt have a built to spec chamber lol. its a simple fix really.
Building a SGFC and having to mist all the time is simpler than placing cakes inside a tub and not having to mist at all? From what perspective is this a better alternative than that which I´m proposing? Plus you don´t run the risk of the cakes drying out and you can even leave town for a few days.
Try leaving town for a few days when you have a SGFC and very low RH in the grow area..
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161577 - 04/24/18 04:24 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Surface conditions is sorta moot on a cake aint it. To some degree no it aint. I get thst. Thst write up is Awsome. For bulk subs. Cakes.  moot sooo much. Sorry. I laugh at my own jokes 
To be a slave to the chamber. Lol. Innovation. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooo lol
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161580 - 04/24/18 04:30 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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The mushrooms are not growing outside the chamber. What is in the chamber is most important. Humidity in the chamber can change all the time. My properly built sgfc i mist 2 times a day, i work over 80 hrs a week and still can maintain that.
My apologies though for being cocky and amused. Back to the main focus
I was simply looking at the OP on the sgfc, i see your alternative and how it is less maintenance. My point was the OP sgfc was not built properly
The sgfc is my strong point, i have had no failure on it.it is not for everyone, and there are plenty of alternatives...
But all said and done, anybody that cultivates can modify thwir chamber to their growing needs, what is happening in the chamber is the main focus. Surface conditions are crucial, the chamber needs to suite thw grower and how much maintenance they want to put into the grow...
Who is to say one chamber is better or best depwnds on how much the grower wants to do
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161581 - 04/24/18 04:35 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree you should do whst works for you. 100% but don't be afraid to wonder from the beatsn path a little. Once you have some experince.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161587 - 04/24/18 04:45 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ama420 said: The mushrooms are not growing outside the chamber. What is in the chamber is most important. Humidity in the chamber can WILL change all the time.
The humidity inside the SGFC is dependant on the humidity of the outside air (that is constantly flowing in and out of the FC). This is what´s important to remember with the SGFC.
When you have very dry air in your grow area then not only will your cakes dry out fast but the humid perlite on the surface will dry out faster as well.
And when the perlite surface starts to dry out then cakes can dry out very fast. As I ALWAYS say. When you know what you are doing then you can make it work with any setup.
But most people that are using SGFC are beginners and are still learning and many of them do not feel as secure as maybe you are in maintaining proper micro climate. You literally have your spray bottle to combat this issue. And when a nervous noob grabs a hold of that weapon it can be devastating to cakes, the same goes if the nervous noob is too late to draw his spray weapon, it can be devastating as well.
But my method eliminates the need to even have to "combat" this "issue" because with my method it´s not even an issue. You can literally forget about the cakes and still have better success.
Besides that, someone once told me that the SGFC is called that way cause after you´re done building it you just want to put a shotgun to your head.
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Edited by Mateja (04/24/18 04:48 AM)
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25161590 - 04/24/18 04:49 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
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Ama420 said: The mushrooms are not growing outside the chamber. What is in the chamber is most important. Humidity in the chamber can WILL change all the time.
The humidity inside the SGFC is dependant on the humidity of the outside air (that is constantly flowing in and out of the FC). This is what´s important to remember with the SGFC.
When you have very dry air in your grow area then not only will your cakes dry out fast but the humid perlite on the surface will dry out faster as well.
And when the perlite surface starts to dry out then cakes can dry out very fast. As I ALWAYS say. When you know what you are doing then you can make it work with any setup.
But most people that are using SGFC are beginners and are still learning and many of them do not feel as secure as maybe you are in maintaining proper micro climate. You literally have your spray bottle to combat this issue. And when a nervous noob grabs a hold of that weapon it can be devastating to cakes, the same goes if the nervous noob is too late to draw his spray weapon, it can be devastating as well.
But my method eliminates the need to even have to "combat" this "issue" because with my method it´s not even an issue. Besides that, someone once told me that the SGFC is called that way cause after you´re done building it you just want to put a shotgun to your head. 
I agree 100%, so i think the main issue for this OP is getting the right chamber for their needs.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25161782 - 04/24/18 08:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've noticed after 4 days my perlite is cold to the touch ? Should I take the cakes an water it an drain also here are some pics guys I will also try an drill an even amount of holes
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ziran]
#25161786 - 04/24/18 08:07 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's what we want right
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25161804 - 04/24/18 08:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking pretty good so far you can always mist the perlite once a day in the morning, that way you know it´s always damn
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25162194 - 04/24/18 11:53 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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some of my stems on my cakes are blueing a little i did mist a lil too much over board in the morning to give them a bath an the top was open for a minute or more could that have bruised them all my RH left plus the over misting >
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25162373 - 04/24/18 01:10 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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During winter I have to use more hand lotion because of the dry air, in the spring and summertime my hands are not that dry and I don´t have to use as much lotion.
Treat your cakes the same way, give them water when they start to dry out, but don´t saturate them, that will slow down the evaporation too much and that not good either.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25164479 - 04/25/18 12:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is this normal or a contamination coming on
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25164490 - 04/25/18 12:53 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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To me it looks like the mycelium is recovering and growing. Keep up the glistening surface and make sure its getting fresh air whithout drying the surface. If that is the bottom of cake and like a good?? then it is sitting in to much water and saturating.
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25164511 - 04/25/18 01:08 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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yup had to clean the jar lid it was on it got too wet should be good now , an yes it was the bottom i have a question 2 of my cakes seem to have stalled its been a couple days should i not jump the gun the first 2 cakes pinning were soaked for 15 hours the other 2 cakes not doing anything was 24 hrs
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25164676 - 04/25/18 02:43 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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It can take a few weeks for fruits in between flushes
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25164681 - 04/25/18 02:45 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Keep good surface conditions. I have had cakes get 8 flushes off of, 2nd and 3rd seem to be best. The cakes will shrink each flush, they seem like an old dryed up sponge once nutrients are spent, toss them then. You should have no problem getring at least 4 flushes though
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25168330 - 04/27/18 03:53 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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horrible news as i came back from work plus the bar haha cheers my fellow astronauts , i came home to a good amount of fruits will post pics in the morning but i must say , u guys are right OP has clearly not built SGFC to SPECS as i took my cakes out an saw a pool of water collecting at the bottom , i rushed it too the sink to drain , fluffed it i think in the morning i will try to re wet it with hot water an let it evaporate in the SGFC before putting my cakes in half way before it drys out , im lost i might as well do as the guy said an grow with a chamber with no holes or re drill more holes any feedback or advice ????
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: jeezy1021]
#25168333 - 04/27/18 03:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Warm or hot water will evaporate off faster, use cold water if you´re gonna hydrate the perlite
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Mateja]
#25168366 - 04/27/18 04:34 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will I harm my cakes by keeping lifting the SGFC lid to look at them and I also shine a torch on them to get the best view?
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: hoofy] 1
#25168375 - 04/27/18 04:44 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Once cakes are fully colonized and birth they are most resistant to contams. You are fine to lift the lid and look, just dont burn them with the torch
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Re: SGFC Questions an feedback [Re: Ama420]
#25168438 - 04/27/18 05:59 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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In the UK, torch means flashlight.
Your cakes look good. Also its beat not to handle them too much while they develop pins.
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