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Legalization growing
    #25154209 - 04/20/18 09:00 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so I'm just wondering what with the possible legalization of psilocybin mushrooms in California and now Colorado, if it would be possible to become a legal grower to supply stores if that did happen, and how difficult that process might be. Feedback welcome, I'm sure a lot of peeps on here are thinking the same thing.:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::cheers:


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: rosco420i]
    #25154224 - 04/20/18 09:09 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Its all speculation if and when it happens


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #25154245 - 04/20/18 09:25 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Well true but I'm just wondering if anyone knows how the industry is now for gourmets and medicinal. Like If a degree is required and what not. It would probably be similar to that i would think.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: rosco420i]
    #25154254 - 04/20/18 09:37 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yes it would have to be treated just the same as food since it is food with psilo in it an its very important when that happens to treat em with hygienic tech so the fda doesnt blow simple food poisoning outa proportion.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25154263 - 04/20/18 09:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Oo that is true I didn't think about the fact that it is technically food poisoning lol. Oh well just a dream right now but at least it has become questionable whether or not it should be legalized. A step in the right direction for sure.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25154264 - 04/20/18 09:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Last I heard it was being talked about taking off schedule I which is a ways off from legalization, but I could be erong.

I too told myself as soon as a state legalizes the shit I'm moving and setting up camp... But we'll see


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154270 - 04/20/18 09:50 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I just looked it up and seemed they're talking about decriminalization which is a step in the right direction, but not the same as legalization.

Unless I'm wrong it goes decriminalization, legal for medical use, legal for recreational, but I am definitely curious to see how it goes... Even if it's only decriminalized I may consider moving states.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: rosco420i]
    #25154271 - 04/20/18 09:52 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

No its not -_- i mean if some1 takes a shit an doesnt wash their hands an gets shit germs on fruits, some1 eats them then gets sick.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25154296 - 04/20/18 10:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yes that is exactly what I was thinking I'm definately ready to move to do that. I think California is voting on recreational and in Colorado it will possibly be just a citation and not a felony, which is great even if it isn't legalized fully. Less worry at least. But it could definately be a good opportunity for people like us.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: rosco420i]
    #25154318 - 04/20/18 10:17 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It could, I wonder how quickly a market like that would get flooded.

Interesting to see what happens.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154325 - 04/20/18 10:24 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I was wondering that as well. I'm sure the demand would be there, California has a massive population that would gobble those things up.  It probably wouldn't get flooded as quickly as cannabis did but then again who knows.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25154362 - 04/20/18 10:49 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

If you have been following how the FDA has been going after Kratom by ignoring peer reviewed science and making their own bogus computer models to sway lawmakers and the public to make it illegal. It probably will not be a easier ride for our little friends. 
Salad killed more people this year but a handful of people get the poopies, no deaths solely from kratom alone, and the FDA CDC is treating kratom like a poster child.
Big pharma isn't liking the opiate alternative and they certainly wont like their amphetamine sales being hurt ether with another legal safer natural alternative. Big pharma has doubled their lobbying power over the last couple years.
Seems the latest angle is, If you cant patent a plant, change the laws so only you can distribute it.
If the HR5298 bill goes through they may even lobby to amend psilocybin or DMT derivatives into the bill so it becomes scheduled to citizens but not to researchers. In which boils down to only big pharma can only sell and prescribe it while the citizens become victims for self medicating per-say.  It seems they are trying to rewrite the war on drugs.
It could be a long drawn out ordeal to legalization or full decriminalization the way things have been going against safer natural alternatives that occur in nature.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
    #25154383 - 04/20/18 11:14 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

The war on Kratom is fucking disgusting. Sorry to say but I have very low expectations for a hallucinogenic mushroom to become legalized.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Cybin_man]
    #25154386 - 04/20/18 11:17 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Not in this country but pure psilo could possibly have a similar place as mdma


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
    #25154401 - 04/20/18 11:26 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I hate playing devils advocate but I really think if mushrooms became legal the decision would be over turned after the first inexperienced user gets into a car crash because he didn't realize he wouldn't be able to drive.

The way mushrooms are passed around these days most people who get involved are getting them from someone who has experience with them and can give them a little coaching.

If mushrooms appear in headshops you ARE going to get customers who don't know what they are getting themselves into, don't know how much to take for a first time and they're going to wind up in an emergency room after a panicked 911 call or in an automobile accident because they thought doing mushrooms was "just like cannabis" (I heard people say that more than once when I was in highschool.

I wish legalization and sale would become the norm and socially acceptable but I'm trying to temper my expectations with a dose of reality, the truth of which is that a few bad decisions are going to make the whole community look really bad and terrifying to the straight edge lawmakers.

This is what happened in the Amsterdam after all. A few who probably shouldn't have done psychedelics had terrifying experiences that resulted in death of the users and an animal. Shortly after mushrooms landed on the shitlist.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25154416 - 04/20/18 11:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I say legalize Everything and regulate it through pharmacies and tax the shit out of it. If the source is a doctor and the price is only inflated because of the tax I forsee mucho benefits and an alleviation of tons of problems. I have a dream...

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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Failboat]
    #25154433 - 04/20/18 11:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I don't care if it becomes legal or not really, just don't arrest us when you catch us with it

That's why I would consider moving for decriminalization alone


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154434 - 04/21/18 12:03 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Also fuck regulating through pharmacies and taxing the shit out of people


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Failboat]
    #25154444 - 04/21/18 12:12 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck that, wrong way you'll end up paying 120 plus tax for an 8th of cubes.


Tiger woods i hope they dont become full on main stream i hope for major decriminalization tho no1 should ever sit in jail over fucking mushrooms et least not more than some short weekend time on the chain.
I think they should keep it illegal enough to keep cowards away but no real trouble for growing or possession just enough to keep people from acting stupid.


I think they should do classes in other countries were u gotta go an trip balls an get assests if u can handle your shit do that like 10 times an get a card an certain concerts/clubs are "trip friendly"


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154451 - 04/21/18 12:22 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Also fuck regulating through pharmacies and taxing the shit out of people




I'm talking about quality and purity standards for drugs. If you want X you get X. Pharmacies are run by doctors and so you would have a certified doctor behind the counter. If you cut out all of the black market BS then prices drop and you could then levvy taxes at a rate where drugs are affordable and beneficial for the state/country. Support for addiction would also be available along with safe use measures. Some things like marijuana and mushrooms are benign enough to be loosely regulated, but for the "hard" drugs they need to be managed more closely. This would be a socialized system.

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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Failboat]
    #25154460 - 04/21/18 12:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I don't like commercialization


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154462 - 04/21/18 12:33 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Pharmacies are government controlled, weed dispensaries can be operated by the average man, an average man (in theory) can grow and sell to a dispensary.

I'm not a fan of doctors


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    #25154465 - 04/21/18 12:36 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I guess maybe it's all the same in the end. Just rather the government's wasn't involved and kept their greedy hands out of it. I imagined priced would be steeper, kind of like weed. Dispensaries are far more expensive than street prices


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Failboat]
    #25154474 - 04/21/18 12:50 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

A simple saline iv bag that cost 1 dollar is 130+ after insurance gets a hold of it they will fuck u in the ass way worse than the black market but shrooms are pretty unique in that theres no huge black market for em you never hear about gangs robbing over shrooms plus theres no need for quality control what u see is what u get with shrooms not that raw fruits would ever be distributed by pharma but they might do extract.

Oh even a simple alcohol packet pad cost 15$+ after insurance touches, all those pills they sell dont cost shiiiit but your still paying 30, 80, 150 specially if they keep u alive.


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154480 - 04/21/18 12:57 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

First of all medicine for profit should be illeagal. They have openly stated that curing diseases, especially STI, is not in the business's best interests. The taxes would be put towards sustaining, improving, and expanding this system. Things like marijuana and mushrooms would be open to the every man to contribute to the general supply as well as personal. Should they be growing on behalf of the public then it needs to be managed with quality control. The foundation for this is already implemented in medical states. As for pharmaceutical drugs such as amphetamines, cocaine, opioids, research chemicals, benzodiazepines, etc, the manufacture of requires sophisticated training. If you wanted to produce these then get trained and join the organization as sharecropping is not quite as simple with these. By the people, for the people. This requires a not for profit approach, honest, and uncorrupt.

Education and healthcare should also be free.:thumbup:

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    #25154501 - 04/21/18 01:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

That's confusing. Non profit.... Tax? Non corrupt.... Sustain, improve, expand system...?

I think I rather dismantle :shrug:

I'm not sure where this by the people for the people land is but I wouldn't mind checking it out and seeing for myself


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Re: Legalization growing [Re: Enkidu]
    #25154513 - 04/21/18 01:20 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

There's no pretax profits. The tax is the excess on top of the cost of operation, which funds the support system such as addiction services and medical research. The by the people for the people land is what could be. As I said before, I have a dream. It's not easy, it's not simple, it is possible.

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    #25154683 - 04/21/18 06:28 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I hate playing devils advocate but I really think if mushrooms became legal the decision would be over turned after the first inexperienced user gets into a car crash because he didn't realize he wouldn't be able to drive.

The way mushrooms are passed around these days most people who get involved are getting them from someone who has experience with them and can give them a little coaching.

If mushrooms appear in headshops you ARE going to get customers who don't know what they are getting themselves into, don't know how much to take for a first time and they're going to wind up in an emergency room after a panicked 911 call or in an automobile accident because they thought doing mushrooms was "just like cannabis" (I heard people say that more than once when I was in highschool.

I wish legalization and sale would become the norm and socially acceptable but I'm trying to temper my expectations with a dose of reality, the truth of which is that a few bad decisions are going to make the whole community look really bad and terrifying to the straight edge lawmakers.

This is what happened in the Amsterdam after all. A few who probably shouldn't have done psychedelics had terrifying experiences that resulted in death of the users and an animal. Shortly after mushrooms landed on the shitlist.




From what I remember a high school girl committed suicide allegedly while tripping and that was the catalyst for criminalizing psilocybin containing fruits. They left mycelium alone at least. Even legal truffles in the states would rule. I'd definitely want in on the ground floor in that industry.

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    #25154764 - 04/21/18 06:28 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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