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Sourcing NaOH locally
    #25153346 - 04/20/18 03:16 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

What’s up guys

Got some MHRB comming soon from a fellow shroomerite. I’m having trouble sourcing my Lye locally does anyone know any national stores that might carry it like ACE Hardware, Agway or any stores you might find in the north east US.
Thanks for your help.

Doing STB is the naphtha from home depot ok??

**Not looking for online retailers**


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153371 - 04/20/18 03:24 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Look in the "drain cleaner" section of hardware stores...my local True-Value carries it.


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #25153398 - 04/20/18 03:36 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Ace hardware, local farm and feeds or other smaller hardware stores should carry 100% sodium hydroxide drain cleaner.


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: nymph]
    #25153410 - 04/20/18 03:40 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

I second ace hardware its the only place i can find pure sodium hydroxide, sulfuric acid, and hydrochloric acid (not pure) as well as toluene and plenty of other items of interest... i use to go there and buy 4lb of lye at a time.

The mark up is crazy and you are allowed to buy 50lb without issue, you may want to try online lol


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153423 - 04/20/18 03:44 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Thanks guys I’ll send my girl out to ace hardware while I’m at work do they have naphtha?


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153467 - 04/20/18 04:01 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

They should they have a massive solvent section which includes some rarer ones, I'd be shocked if they didnt.


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153501 - 04/20/18 04:17 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Ok I was just wondering because on the teks everyone seems to specify st&p naptha or some weird prefix


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153517 - 04/20/18 04:24 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Those are brands, sure they have something to do with purity but I have used plenty. VM+P just means varnish makers + painters brand i believe... ive also used jasco brand (comes in gallons sometimes) and lighter fluid when in a pinch or doing a recrystallization.

I cant comment on ace having naphtha as i usually got it from home depot and lowes... probably because i had a thing about purchasing everything back then

stp makes car stuff i believe, not to be confused with TSP (trisodium phosphate) which is a bleach you can buy at ace too lol


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153523 - 04/20/18 04:29 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Haha thanks for all the info and clarification!


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153529 - 04/20/18 04:31 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

smegzilla69 said:
Haha thanks for all the info and clarification!




Somewhat of an amateur chemist the joke is we are chronic label readers at hardware stores and pharmacies... its not inaccurate.

Good luck!

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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153774 - 04/20/18 06:13 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Is it possible to smoke some tonight around 2am after the first pull...
Thinking 7-12 I’ll let the lye sit and work then throw the naptha in the freezer by 12 and try to dry it by like 2am in a dehydrator


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153775 - 04/20/18 06:14 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

It’s my sisters birthday party today I planned on having the supplies days ago but the MHRB has some trouble in the post.


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153785 - 04/20/18 06:19 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

I usually fan dry my pulls and it’s aout 6-8 hours of high fanning at 65-70 degrees f for about 600mL of naphtha with the sized pan I use. I would imagine if you knew what you were doing you could but unfortunately I can’t give you my exact set up and time frames since we aren’t doing the same thing.

In theory you could, definitely with practice, I could go from first pull to smokable in 5 hours.


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153788 - 04/20/18 06:23 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

I was gonna freeze precipitate in my deep freezer sub zero an use the dehydrator on the coffee filter


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153791 - 04/20/18 06:25 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Like I said I really can’t comment I’ve done small freeze precips on small recrystalizations but when I did my kilo runs just freezing I had them sit for 48-72 hours to be safe. It depends how saturated your solvent is, it can crash out really quickly or slowly depending.

It’s worth a shot I mean you need like 200mg for 3 people to have a big experience. How much are you working with and what’s your solvent volume going to be for the pulls


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25153818 - 04/20/18 06:44 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Most of the time the crystals stick to the galss so you won't need the filter, you just pour the naphtha out then fan the glass until there is no more solvent smell then fan a little bit more and you're good.. 2 hrs will do it.
But in the case of packed and enclosed in a filter i imagine it would take longer. So you can carefully cut the filter and spread the filter and the crystals on a glass dish and fan that

Although i think it's better not to be in a rush and work slowly


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: harmal]
    #25153842 - 04/20/18 07:03 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Yea I’m usually all for following the teks properly and patients...
I have a kilo but I was gonna do 2 or 3 jars with 50 grams each and freeze all the naptha together


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: smegzilla69]
    #25153846 - 04/20/18 07:06 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

That sounds like a good idea
3 jars and just do 1 pull from each..
Then later you can do the remaining pulls


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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: harmal]
    #25153854 - 04/20/18 07:11 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

If you use little naptha like 50ml per jar, you can simply evape it in a wide dish in front of a fan. With these small ammounts of liquid, evaping is faster than freezing. You will get some smokable product in a few hours only.

The wider the dish the faster it will evape. 50ml will evape in less than one hour on a dish that is like 15 inches in diameter.
You can split the naptha onto two or more dishes to speed it up even more.

If you use MHRB you will be left with pure, powdery dmt. Just scrape it off the plate /dish and be happy.

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Re: Sourcing NaOH locally [Re: harmal]
    #25153861 - 04/20/18 07:15 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

I just got home and see I have shredded bark...
To speed up the initial extraction should I just put the water and NaOH and bark in a bender lol

I’m a noob chemist but smaller granules and more surface area have to speed up the reaction...


So 50 g bark and 50g lye
750ml water???
200 ml naptha??


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