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OfflineTrippyhippy18
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No pins after Weeks!
    #25151669 - 04/19/18 07:30 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys these colonies are fully developed and seem really really healthy. However it's been like 2 weeks and not a single pin please help, I have no idea what's going on! They are growing in a manure substrate in grow bags with 5 micron filters. I thought maybe they weren't getting enough sunlight so I bought a T8 light fixture two days ago. I'm running 6500k bulbs on 12 on/12 off cycle.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25151674 - 04/19/18 07:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

If there fully conlonized n still sealed in a grow bag thats prob why, howd you inoc them


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25151691 - 04/19/18 07:40 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18] * 1
    #25151693 - 04/19/18 07:44 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Put them in tub setups.  Just my opinion. 

Need to have air and light when fruiting.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25151696 - 04/19/18 07:45 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I inoculated a pre sterilized bag of Rye grain. Once they were fully colonized I birthed them into a manure mixture.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18] * 1
    #25151722 - 04/19/18 07:55 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Just saying these tub setups work real nice, I use a non conventional double tub but it works every time...


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25151731 - 04/19/18 08:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Either put them in a tub set up like mentioned or cut some small holes in the bag, a few at substrate level and a few on top. I’ve grown in bags before, and once they got more air they did better. Then if the substrate looks dry mist it. Evaporation from the substrate is what you want, ask the pros, they will tell you :wink:


First one you can see the hole I cut, there was like four on the bottom and a couple on top (spread evenly apart) second one I put a paper clip on part of the fold to have an air gap on top of my bag. And the third is the results


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Cybin_man] * 1
    #25151750 - 04/19/18 08:13 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I'll try cutting holes first and if no improvement I'll move to a tub set up. Can someone please link to the best tub tek.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25152257 - 04/20/18 12:43 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Need fresh air exchange and 12/12 lighting


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25152420 - 04/20/18 03:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Search "shoeboxes" which are mini tubs.


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25152899 - 04/20/18 09:24 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Cut the tops at substrate level then throw them in a monotub of some sort.


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25153899 - 04/20/18 05:30 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

If I make sterilite 60qt monotub, cut the bags at substrate level and just place them all in the bottom it will work? Just making sure because one the tek the whole tub is a single colony.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25153991 - 04/20/18 06:25 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yup. It'll be like a couple substrates with liners. You should have plenty of substrate to keep it self-sufficient if you buy a tub that fits well.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25154467 - 04/21/18 12:38 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys did I do this right?

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25154515 - 04/21/18 01:20 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Need a clear lid, and 12/12 hour lighting. Looks like it ahould be enough height


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Ama420] * 1
    #25154973 - 04/21/18 10:07 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I replaced the lid with clear plastic.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25155118 - 04/21/18 11:20 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

:rockon:


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Ama420]
    #25155209 - 04/21/18 11:55 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need a clear lid and plastic won't protect it from heavier debris. Put the lid back on.

What's with all the little holes? You only need a few holes in a mono. Look at how EatYuAlive does his. You also likely don't have enough headspace.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25156281 - 04/21/18 07:06 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I followed this tek to build the tub https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/. Not trying to question you I trust you know what your talking about. But why don't I need a clear lid? It made sense when I was told.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Trippyhippy18]
    #25157764 - 04/22/18 01:40 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

That is a terrible website. I don't wanna be a fanboy for Shroomery but that one in particular pushes a lot of misinformation/untested or barely tested crap.

You don't need a clear lid because you just don't need that much light. It's fine coming in the sides. My tubs have black lids and do alright.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25157836 - 04/22/18 02:13 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have only used clear lids, 6500k lights and 800-1000 lumens per tub. I cant speak for any other results. But i do take word of trusted cultivators


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Ama420]
    #25157847 - 04/22/18 02:17 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It works either way but if you drop something on some Saran wrap it's probably gonna hit your sub. Not so for a plastic real lid.

As for the lighting yeah, 6500K 12/12 is what you want but I have literally never known the intensity of my lighting in my 15 years of growing. If I can see my sub well it has always worked.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25157899 - 04/22/18 02:43 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Makes an interesting point of research though. I use a 3 foot fluorescent, 2900 lumens. I can fit 3 tubs under it, i guess i based it off that? Bodhi said about it in post before but never seen it really in any teks.


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Ama420]
    #25157902 - 04/22/18 02:45 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

FYI, plenty of light gets through those white lids.


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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: Ama420]
    #25158449 - 04/22/18 06:56 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Makes an interesting point of research though. I use a 3 foot fluorescent, 2900 lumens. I can fit 3 tubs under it, i guess i based it off that? Bodhi said about it in post before but never seen it really in any teks.




I think you could run numbers or you can learn to read what your mushrooms want. I don't know of any solid tests that have proven just how much light you need but you'd have to know what they look like when they have proper lighting first anyway.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: No pins after Weeks! [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25158460 - 04/22/18 06:59 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I agree


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