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New SAB Idea
    #25140506 - 04/15/18 08:54 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It was an unnecessary vector idea, although I may revise it as I like the idea of an all-in-one piece SAB work bench.

Do what Bod said, put something heavy on the top.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25140510 - 04/15/18 08:56 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Put something heavy on top of the sab. or put a towel down so the sab has some friction surface between itself and the table.

The entire purpose of the sab is to not have attached gloves. The sab solves the problem caused by attaching gloves to the arm holes

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140526 - 04/15/18 09:06 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Your sab shouldn't move at all. The sab moving around means you are hitting the walls/bumping it. To me that means the air isn't still and the box isnt being utilized properly.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: mushboy]
    #25140527 - 04/15/18 09:06 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

And that too. Make bigger arm holes for sure

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140529 - 04/15/18 09:07 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I'm on ignore though:lolsy:

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: mushboy]
    #25140531 - 04/15/18 09:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Your sab shouldn't move at all. The sab moving around means you are hitting the walls/bumping it. To me that means the air isn't still and the box isnt being utilized properly.



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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140533 - 04/15/18 09:09 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Put something heavy on top of the sab. or put a towel down so the sab has some friction surface between itself and the table.

The entire purpose of the sab is to not have attached gloves. The sab solves the problem caused by attaching gloves to the arm holes




Not a bad suggestion actually, back when I was still drinking and made this SAB (have no memory of that) I bought one without a clear bottom, so I sit on a lower table in a lower chair to see clearly into the side.  I'm contemplating replacing it, but I've never had any issues with it.

The gloves wouldn't be attached, and it would only be over the right arm covering where I can slide my arm in and out with ease.  An unnecessary step perhaps, I just found that medical apparatus and immediately thought this would be great to use for the arm that doesn't need to go in and out for flame sterilization.

Looks like this:


I was just going to cut the stretchy part off and glue it centered to the right handed side, for slightly stiller air.  Otherwise it's headed for the trash can.

I'm going to go buy some butane and just use a torch but I do like my alcohol burners, which I've heard is the way to go anyway.

The arm holes are rather large already, and the SAB moving around is not a large issue, just something I want to be firmly in place.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25140545 - 04/15/18 09:15 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

You want open arm holes as to not create suction and disturb the air.
Propane torch > butane torch > shitty diy alcohol lamps.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140561 - 04/15/18 09:23 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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You want open arm holes as to not create suction and disturb the air.
Propane torch > butane torch > shitty diy alcohol lamps.




Saves me a store run, already have a propane torch.  Honestly I've just been using a BIC lighter the entire time anyway, but I like the idea of an alcohol burner for longer SAB sessions.

Yea, the SAB has functioned perfectly fine without any modification, something heavy on the lid and no worries on arms going in and out on the quick.

Appreciate the input Bod, I think I've got a brick somewhere around here, otherwise I'll use a dumb bell - actually think there is one right by my SAB, lol.

One thing I am gonna do, is whip out the Dremel and go around the edges of the armholes.  I don't want any tape on there.

The medical apparatus was headed for the trash anyway.

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My next project is a flowhood.  I'm making pretty good money now, was tempted to buy one outright just to save myself the labor/I'm tired after work, but that seemed too cheesy when I've built countless grow cabs and such in the past.

I've run out of things to buy required in this hobby, inventory is nutty.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt] * 1
    #25140565 - 04/15/18 09:25 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)


I like that kind for long sessions. Just leave it on low.

You can even see me use it in my videos

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140585 - 04/15/18 09:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I like that kind for long sessions. Just leave it on low.

You can even see me use it in my videos




Lol that's literally exactly what I've got.  I was worried it was going to be too big... :lol:

Are your xacto's chilling in 70% iso?

I opted for a scalpel (same difference really) but I think a little 1/4 pint jelly jar would be great for this as well.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25140610 - 04/15/18 09:41 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yes they're chilling in iso. I actually use 91% for that just because it gets the agar residue off better and though 91 doesn't work as well as 70% its getting flame sterilized anyway.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25140624 - 04/15/18 09:46 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Yes they're chilling in iso. I actually use 91% for that just because it gets the agar residue off better and though 91 doesn't work as well as 70% its getting flame sterilized anyway.




I keep 91% and 70% around as well, but good info as I'm new to agar (Have a bunch of transfers to clean plates from started plates, as well as my first tiger drop to do after a shower here in a minute).  Decided I'm gonna go buy a tyvek suit for the days I'm too lazy to shower after work, lol.

I use the 91% for ganja related things mostly, and cleaning stuff like electronics.

Got lazy with my coir prep, it's in a turkey bag zip-tied in the oven, it was mostly pasteurized anyway but not properly - I figured Fuck it, and cooked it.  Just CVG, so doubt it matters.

Have too many things going on at once, should really be starting more grains too, but man... work tomorrow.

:peace:

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I love that the only people being dicks in this thread, are still on my ignore list after deciding who deserved another chance and who didn't.

Do they have no lives at all?  It's like they sit in their PC room all day waiting for a chance...  LOL

I'd respond to your aids comments, but that'd defy the point.  I only checked because Bod felt so inclined to re-post something you said, even though you cause drama in every thread I am in.

I'm gonna pack a fatty of some fire right now, just for the invisible trolls in my thread.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25140633 - 04/15/18 09:49 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need a tyvek suit for sab work. I do my work dirty and stinky. Your working inside a STILL box, not a sterile box.

Why take a shower/wash your hands only to cover them with gloves:confused:

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: mushboy]
    #25140651 - 04/15/18 09:54 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm on ignore though:lolsy:



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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: mushboy]
    #25140765 - 04/15/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I like to looks of the still air boxes with the arm holes but I've had good luck with just a big opening like an aquarium laid on its side.  The room air has to be still to avoid anything getting blown in but they are much simpler.

I use a propane torch with a push button ignition so I can light it when I need to use it and shut it off when I don't.  Turned on with a low flame it doesn't use much fuel so just leaving it on while you work would be even better.

I have an alcohol burner which I like mainly because it looks like real lab equipment but rarely if ever use it anymore.  The propane torch is so much more convenient and heats the tools faster.  I also have a Bunsen burner which I loved but my improvised method of running it off propane plugged up and I haven't gotten another way of getting the fuel to it yet.  It was originally designed for natural gas which I don't have but I drilled out the air inlet holes and it worked on propane.


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Yes they're chilling in iso. I actually use 91% for that just because it gets the agar residue off better and though 91 doesn't work as well as 70% its getting flame sterilized anyway.




I usually just burn the agar residue off or wipe the tools with a paper towel before flame sterilizing them but I never tried 91% alcohol.  Good tip.


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You don't need a tyvek suit for sab work. I do my work dirty and stinky. Your working inside a STILL box, not a sterile box.

Why take a shower/wash your hands only to cover them with gloves:confused:




I don't even use gloves.  I do spray my hands with alcohol or a bleach solution (not recommended but works) and just be careful not to get my hands above the media.  Good sterile techniques is the key.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: Mycosperiment]
    #25141167 - 04/15/18 01:38 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I just did 6 LC's via the poke method, spawned one WBS>CVG tub, did one blenderless inoculant from a pasty plate, and did 10 agar transfers (4 Syzygy, 6 PE) via scalpel & inoc loop.  Did the first 4 with a scalpel and said F this, did the rest w/ an inoc loop.

I just burned the agar off.

Used a 10lb dumb bell (finally found a use for one, I lift real weight all day at work) to hold the SAB in place, worked nicely.  I think I'd still prefer a SAB that easily swings open to retrieve/add materials, but this works well until I build/buy a flowhood.

Damn puck isn't dissolving in the sterile water, it was very colonized, lol - looks kinda cool spinning and shining though, giving that a little time to do its thing.

Still have to do another CVG prep for spawning another tub tomorrow, as well as more grain prep for this set of cultures.

:chalkup:

Time to blaze one again... That was a lot of BS'ing around, but I employed multiple new techniques all in one sitting once I finally was able to sit down and get to work on the agar, the only thing that pissed me off was how hard it was to cut a tiny piece and pick it up with the scalpel.

I wore tyvek sleeves, but I didn't wear gloves for the SAB parts.  My job is rough on my hands (I work with a lot of solar salt) but I said fuck it and doused them in 70% iso anyways.

CVG looked like it turned out perfect, these are the last tubs I'll ever spawn being unsure if there is hidden contaminants in clean looking/smelling MS spawn.

Edit_

I've decided I'm just going to drop 20-30$ on an Oster blender and start making LI.

Even if the new LC's I have are 10,000x better than my best old ones, I'm still going for the LI as an option.  I'm kinda exploring every avenue, a costly and time consuming venture.

Also, already figured out my mistake with the blenderless inoculant - I used a SHIP/SFD lid instead of a simple metal lid with the band removed, I forgot what I was using this sterile water for.  Worst case scenario I wasted a MS>LC>Agar puck and 500ml of distilled water.  Can still shake the piss out of this though, I'd just rather spare my SFD/PP5 lid the beating.  :lol:

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25141574 - 04/15/18 05:04 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

dood should really stop editing his OPs once he gets his 'answer'. lame.(although bumping this is equally lame)

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: mushboy]
    #25141715 - 04/15/18 06:16 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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dood should really stop editing his OPs once he gets his 'answer'. lame.(although bumping this is equally lame)




I meant to comment on that too.  I've seen a lot of deleted or changed posts while searching the archives for information and it makes the threads about worthless when you don't know what the original idea or question was.  Many times the deleted post was just some mean spirited or off topic comment that added nothing to the conversation but even bad ideas could help others from repeating the same mistakes.  There's a reason lab notebooks are supposed to have the non-removable pages numbered and everything written in ink.

You can always edit the post with a strikethrough to show that you changed your mind or the information was wrong while still keeping the thread useful for future readers.

Here's a good example of a ruined thread although I don't know the story behind that deletion.  Was probably some good ideas or food for thought in those lost posts and pictures.

No-Tilt LC Lid Tek *DELETED*

There are many other DELETED or EDITED posts that make reading and learning from the archives hard.

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Re: New SAB Idea [Re: plurfekt]
    #25142278 - 04/15/18 10:53 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Never hurts to update my ignore list.

mushboy has a need for attention anywhere i post.  the op is fine, was tldr material so I summed it up.

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