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Gele
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Unhealthy fruits ?
#25140411 - 04/15/18 08:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Growing is slow due to 20 celsius temperature, but they are soft almost looks roting to me with brown strips on steam and under cup
 I dont know, to wait caps to open (desperately needing prints) or to harvest to save some  Or too much water (I'm spraying water and using humidifier inside SGFC?
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele] 1
#25140424 - 04/15/18 08:14 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ditch the humidifier, i tried it and it wont work. 4-5inches moist perlite. Works awesome, i use my lid to control the humidity, ex.leave it loose,off,or tight. Its a standard sgfc.
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BigSurMoon said: Ditch the humidifier, i tried it and it wont work. 4-5inches moist perlite. Works awesome, i use my lid to control the humidity, ex.leave it loose,off,or tight. Its a standard sgfc.
Without humidifier I did not have pining, now its turned off. to much moisture ?
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25140446 - 04/15/18 08:29 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im not a pro, and learning so take my advice with salt. But i think the humidifier puts out the wrong kind of moisture/humidity. I screwed around with one and it didnt work. If your doing cakes, the perlite standard sgfc is the best.
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25140451 - 04/15/18 08:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gele said:
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BigSurMoon said: Ditch the humidifier, i tried it and it wont work. 4-5inches moist perlite. Works awesome, i use my lid to control the humidity, ex.leave it loose,off,or tight. Its a standard sgfc.
Without humidifier I did not have pining, now its turned off. to much moisture ?
They would have if you were more patient. They pin when they're ready. Using a humidifier doesn't make them change their mind.
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A few of my jars pinned while consolidating, and they went nuts in the sgfc. My others have yet to pin and im going on a week, i think. Im still learning,
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Sounds normal. My first log I had some trays just starting to pin when others who were introduced to fruiting at the same time were on their third flush. That's why my motto always is if there's no molds, keep it going.
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Thats not the case, its just the humidifier puts out TOO much humidity.
You really should only have about 60% humidity when fruiting. High humidity and low temps is why his fruits look like that.
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BigSurMoon
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I hear ya, i almost tossed agar plates that i thought were bad, then i did some transfers and realized i was just being a retard. Its an honor to speak with you mad. Youve been a huge source for me
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Sorry i wasnt trying to diagnose, just sharing my experience with a humidifier
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Ah nah man i know. Sorry if i seemed like a dick I was just trying to help OP out.
From everything i've read on here those humidifiers cause more problem than harm.
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BigSurMoon
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Yeah i went insane for a month at least trying to get it stable. I kept saying theres no way that fucking perlite shit works.... another learning experience.
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Yeah. The sgfc was made by RR who lives in a very dry environment. It was made for set and forget because he was working 12 hour shifts every day. He wanted a chamber that didn't need a humidifier and thus the sgfc was born. My opinion for the op is to not deviate from the tek. Can we see pics of the room/environment the chamber is in?
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Yeah rr and about a dozen of ya did all the work for us newbs. For that, im forever grateful. Im obssessed now!
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Heres my ghetto rig, i know that im not supposed to go by hygrometers, but they make me feel better, lol. I do listen to what their showing me. Mad,your agar plates are badass, i saw that a while back and was like wtf? Art in the raw!
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: BigSurMoon] 1
#25140809 - 04/15/18 11:26 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is the room (please don't judge the mess)
 the fire stove was running until recently, and is possible that it was drying the air
Humidifier is running controlled, so no problem with it (probably)

 The new way of forcing pinning is covering with plastic bottle, 3-4 days this one is pined like that, and now repiting the metod
 with this one I even go vilant, because this one was infected during colonization https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24985298
(dont have more perlite at the moment) And at the end biggest hopes: All of the cakes when start to becoming moldy I dump them, surrounded by sawdust, some oyster logs.. hope for the best, when right conditions. ( I have read about this,people with no pining in chamber home, and nice flash outside)
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25140918 - 04/15/18 12:07 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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What on earth is that wrapped around the cakes? Looks like a burlap sack?
A sgfc needs much more perlite than what you currently have. 5" depth is what you want. I'd do that and ditch the humidifier.
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Mad Season said: What on earth is that wrapped around the cakes? Looks like a burlap sack?
Fabric made of industrial canabis (i think hemp is right name) choir, used as bulk,
 micelium grow fine on it 
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Mad Season said: A sgfc needs much more perlite than what you currently have. 5" depth is what you want. I'd do that and ditch the humidifier.
As soon as find some more perlite...
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele] 1
#25141043 - 04/15/18 12:53 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gele said: Humidifier is running controlled, so no problem with it (probably)

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Gele
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25141061 - 04/15/18 12:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is closeup on the problem, steam below cap looks like rotten
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25141190 - 04/15/18 01:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could be genetics or maybe too wet environment. Its hard to tell.
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Re: Unhealthy fruits ? [Re: Gele]
#25141203 - 04/15/18 01:50 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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This may be my first post, but I’ve been lurking on here for years. And have experience, looks like there starting to abort. This could be for a number of reasons. Did you soak the cakes in water to rehydrate?if you did it for more than a few hours that’s the likely culprit. Having said that it could be an act of nature.
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Here was my cake set up
 No need to make things complicated, just follow the Tek.
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Philosophymajor199 said: This may be my first post, but I’ve been lurking on here for years. And have experience, looks like there starting to abort. This could be for a number of reasons. Did you soak the cakes in water to rehydrate?if you did it for more than a few hours that’s the likely culprit. Having said that it could be an act of nature.
I’ve dunked for twelve hours between flushes with no problems. Once they are past the second flush though you’d be best not giving them that long because the cakes start getting soft. Anywhere from 6-12 hour dunk is good, no need to re-roll in verm.
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Did you dunk that 12 hours with maturing pins?
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No, I dunked after each flush. I pick the aborts off and do the dunk. If the pins were healthy I’d leave them on.
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This sometimes happens when I dunk with healthy pins, it’s really rare but does happen
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