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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: karode13] * 1
    #25130033 - 04/11/18 01:48 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: jellyfish]
    #25130741 - 04/11/18 11:47 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Nice looking plants. What kind of light do you have them under? T8s


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Crispy224] * 1
    #25132202 - 04/12/18 12:42 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

An update on how fast these guys are growing




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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: TheUpsideDown] * 1
    #25134948 - 04/13/18 07:07 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I gave my salvia plants a new LED kit a while back and they have become the healthest looking plants I've ever seen under an indoor light.
They have that "fat chode" look, but with leaves. :wink:



This was a single cutting that sprouted new shoots from the root ball.



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What do people make of this red/brown marking on the leaves?



Looks like too much light. I would pull it away from direct sunlight until it has been acclimated.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Oggy]
    #25134962 - 04/13/18 07:16 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I gave my salvia plants a new LED kit a while back and they have become the healthest looking plants I've ever seen under an indoor light.
They have that "fat chode" look, but with leaves. :wink:



This was a single cutting that sprouted new shoots from the root ball.



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What do people make of this red/brown marking on the leaves?



Looks like too much light. I would pull it away from direct sunlight until it has been acclimated.




O wow what W and led color? Are LEDs rated in kelvin? Was it one of those none super bright ones. That plant looks great!
Ass for the red yea it's looks like too much light.  But not so much that's it's making the
Leaves shrivel up


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Crispy224]
    #25135734 - 04/13/18 12:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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O wow what W and led color? Are LEDs rated in kelvin? Was it one of those none super bright ones. That plant looks great!
Ass for the red yea it's looks like too much light.  But not so much that's it's making the
Leaves shrivel up




No, LEDs are not rated the same as regular lights. They emit only a single wavelength of light at a time(also note, because of this fact a WHITE light would be impossible for an LED). The lights I have them under are a mix of red, blue and orange as well as a tiny 15w CFL for reasons.

I went with a bright lamp for light penetration. The kit was said to be 300w but after checking it out myself, it turned out to be using only 130w.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Oggy]
    #25136657 - 04/13/18 07:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

O so it wasn't like one of the 25w garbage panels from a popular auction site?


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Crispy224]
    #25137743 - 04/14/18 07:05 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

WHITE light isn´t impossible for an LED, its just another teqnique.

The LEDs putting out white light is phosphorus coated blue leds.
It works in principle like a CFL.
The blue light hits the phosphorous coating witch makes it glow and send out a spectrum of light frequencies ie. white light.

Many growers are starting using these white light LEDs and seem to have good results.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Mateo]
    #25142159 - 04/15/18 09:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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WHITE light isn´t impossible for an LED, its just another teqnique.

The LEDs putting out white light is phosphorus coated blue leds.
It works in principle like a CFL.
The blue light hits the phosphorous coating witch makes it glow and send out a spectrum of light frequencies ie. white light.

Many growers are starting using these white light LEDs and seem to have good results.




The thing is that is not white, it's just blue.
An LED will still only ever emit a single wavelength at a time, even with the phosphor coating. The coating just changes the light to a very soft blue that looks white to our eyes.
You would need the entire spectrum for a white light. Unfortunately that is not possible for single LEDs.
I treat all full spectrum and white light LED grow kits as scams that just cost more money than they should. :mad:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Oggy]
    #25143496 - 04/16/18 02:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

From what I learned in materials science (10 years ago), that sounds true. A single diode will only emit at the frequency of light proportional to the difference in energy between it's ground state electrons and excited state. But, the phosphor could absorb the light from the diode, have its own electron promoted and emit a longer wavelength due to energy loss from vibrational relaxation.

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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: jellyfish]
    #25144982 - 04/17/18 07:34 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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From what I learned in materials science (10 years ago), that sounds true. A single diode will only emit at the frequency of light proportional to the difference in energy between it's ground state electrons and excited state. But, the phosphor could absorb the light from the diode, have its own electron promoted and emit a longer wavelength due to energy loss from vibrational relaxation.




This is your light on phosphor:


This is your light on full spectrum:


Be like full spectrum, don't do phosphor! :tongue:

[edit] so I read up a bit more on the technology. It turns out, phosphor can emit more than just blue. However it will be a very, very weak light that usually fit between the ranges of 470nm, 530nm and 630nm. In other words it's still not white.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Oggy]
    #25146324 - 04/17/18 06:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

You should read up better.
The coatings on diodes and CFLs can be made to output very different spectrums and ones that are quite similar to white light.

Look at this lamps output


This is defenitly NOT very, very weak light that usually fit between the ranges of 470nm, 530nm and 630nm.
Keep up the reading.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Mateo]
    #25146875 - 04/17/18 10:08 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I can't convince anyone that a full spectrum from an LED is bullshit. Maybe pink floyd will help.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Oggy]
    #25149274 - 04/18/18 08:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Pink Floyd is really nice.

And everyone has their favorites and beliefs, its OK, should be that way.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: molemole]
    #25149304 - 04/18/18 08:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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What do people make of this red/brown marking on the leaves?



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This looks like sun burn to me.




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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Mateo]
    #25149390 - 04/18/18 08:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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You should read up better.
The coatings on diodes and CFLs can be made to output very different spectrums and ones that are quite similar to white light.

Look at this lamps output


This is defenitly NOT very, very weak light that usually fit between the ranges of 470nm, 530nm and 630nm.
Keep up the reading.




That's what I learned in materials science. You can coat with different phosphors that each emit a different wavelength. That's why I was confused.

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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: d0urd3n]
    #25152614 - 04/20/18 06:32 AM (6 years, 29 days ago)

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What do people make of this red/brown marking on the leaves?



Quote:

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This looks like sun burn to me.




:thumbup:




Ah sunburn, cheers! Will put it in a more shady place

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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: Broken1]
    #25163107 - 04/24/18 07:08 PM (6 years, 25 days ago)

Hello friends, I write to you with concern, a few days ago I received a few cuts of salli d, but they arrived somewhat battered, with the stem bent and some leaves hurt, I wanted to please, if you feel passion for this plant please help me save it. Now I will describe some of the care you have: earth 60% fiber 40% hummus, temperature: 22-28 ° humidity: 60% 82%. Now it is together with some plants of dipolopterys that I have, the sun that gives them is indirect but the increase in temperature reaches its peak of 29 ° at noon. I am located at 1,200 meters above sea level, ah, to other receives foliar irrigation daily.





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Re: Salvia Divinorum Growers Unite! [Re: abraxxas] * 1
    #25168215 - 04/27/18 12:54 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

These plants are really loving the greenhouse. Putting on some serious growth, and the stems are getting much thicker.

Calea Z in bottom left corner in case you are wondering.



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    #25168574 - 04/27/18 07:40 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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