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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: SirTripAlot]
#25137145 - 04/13/18 10:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: Let's not forget France and the UK going in.....here comes Wag the Dog? I have no fucking clue. Russia vetoed the UN from investigating the chem attack (supposedly)
Not exactly. Russia and the US each made an inspections proposal, and each rejected the other's. Syria actually welcomed the inspections:
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Inspectors from the watchdog the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) were planning to travel to Syria after receiving an invitation from the Assad regime
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25137507 - 04/14/18 02:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here's a very good broadcast from (I'm embarrassed to say)... Tucker Carlson:
Watch the first minute or two and see if it sucks you in.
Tucker Carlson does it again.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25137765 - 04/14/18 07:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tucker Carlson is a faggot.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: Perusha_Kyuden] 2
#25137793 - 04/14/18 07:46 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So, the strike was completely ineffective.
Most of the missiles were shot down by Syrian Air Defenses or were jammed by Russian electronic warfare.
Also, the targets themselves had already been cleared out of anything important since they were identified as targets beforehand.
That being said, this is still terrible. Why? Because the US Government has proven that all they have to do is organize a false flag and then they can bomb with impunity in Syria all they like. They are literally holding the entire world hostage at the barrel of a gun. Who knows when they will decide to bomb Syria again and have it justified with another false flag operation.
It is complete and utter insanity. These people must be stopped.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: chopstick] 2
#25137867 - 04/14/18 08:26 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It wasn't inneffective, it distracted from Trump's domestic issues and subsidized the military industrial complex. That's all it was likely supposed to do to begin with.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: krypto2000]
#25138159 - 04/14/18 10:58 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Remember when Clinton bombed a Sudanese Pharmaceutical plant during the Monica thing? Nothing new here.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_pharmaceutical_factory
The Constitution has a fix for that problem....via declaration of war. The last time that was done was 1941.Since then they are called extended military engagements.....we dont even follow the War Powers Resolution completely anymore. There would be allot less "engagements" if Congress would have to debate and put their seal of approval on it.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: SirTripAlot]
#25138199 - 04/14/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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chopstick said: So, the strike was completely ineffective.
It wasn't inneffective, it distracted from Trump's domestic issues and subsidized the military industrial complex. That's all it was likely supposed to do to begin with.
I think the goal of the strike was to prevent the chemical inspection team from doing an investigation. Plus I doubt we'll ever let Assad rule all of Syria. Originally we wanted to take the whole country from him, but now I believe we'll be satisfied with a large chunk (which of course will lead to further conflict).
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chopstick said: Most of the missiles were shot down by Syrian Air Defenses or were jammed by Russian electronic warfare.
Interestingly, Russia said they didn't have their state of the art S-300 and S-400 missiles deployed to Syria due to pressure from the West, but are now reconsidering deploying the S-300.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: chopstick] 1
#25138834 - 04/14/18 03:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now trump can say we wouldn't want to discover some poison gas in your territory would we? If a country does not bend over when told to do so.
Most of us knew it would not be all out war, no ground troops just kids with joy sticks firing off a lot of missiles each of which cost us over a million, several millions each. People watched the spectacle while eating popcorn.
It was kind of brilliant from trumps point of view if not from the syrians view.
*He appeased isreal which wants usa to wipe out all arabs. *He appeased allies who were or pretended to be taken in by the false flag *He is still the loose cannon mad dog you better not fuck with and there's the proof
Kim must have gotten a lump in his throat watching it, maybe choked on his popcorn. It also showed china something
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: chopstick] 2
#25139101 - 04/14/18 05:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will tell you what is a conspiracy - the idea that Assad would gas civilians knowing it would invite US airstrikes after he's already won the war.
The only people that benefit from this are the jihadists, Period.
This is the largest glaring hole in the entire ordeal. Why in the fuck would Assad use chemical weapons at a time like this? There's even very recent precedent as to how the international community reacts towards the use of chemical weapons.
The bigger question is, why does it now matter how Syrian civilians are killed?
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: Mr. Bojangles] 1
#25139184 - 04/14/18 05:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If they are blown up, shot or burned up, its ok. The un has no problem. But if its poison then the wrath of the entire world pours out. All the hypocrites start posturing
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: chopstick] 1
#25139372 - 04/14/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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We bombed syria! Fuck yeah, go Trump, I'm really glad he had the balls to do this. I was worried he might not do it for a minute, but he pulled through.
Chemical weapons are seriously inhumane and have been banned since the first world war for a damn good reason. It is inexcusable for any country to use chemical weapons in any context, let alone on civilians, and any country that does deserves to be punished.
Trump's been doing great recently.
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Re: False Flag in Syria, possible US military response imminent [Re: nooneman] 1
#25139425 - 04/14/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mr. Bojangles said:
Why in the fuck would Assad use chemical weapons at a time like this? There's even very recent precedent as to how the international community reacts towards the use of chemical weapons.
The bigger question is, why does it now matter how Syrian civilians are killed?
Its quite strange indeed.. The Russians were claiming it was a false flag, but at the same time the Russians would WANT to claim it was a false flag attack to make the USA look bad if they attacked Syria before confirming the investigation.
At the same time, its fucking reckless to shoot before checking for friendlies, if the attack was a false flag, the US is a fool. And because the US doesn't know if it was a false flag or not, THEY ARE FOOLS for acting without knowing!!! They can easily be used as puppets now, knowing that they dont investigate before shooting. ISIS simply has to shoot chemical attacks to fuel the conflict.
Its easy to call shots against a poor desolate country to test your weapons functionality, but would they do the same if North Korea used chemical attacks or China? They'd go home like a cripple animal or worse: fucking international nuclear war
Syria definitely SHOULD NOT be using such weapons, they KNEW what would come of it, the US had already raided an airstrip in Syria last year...
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-14/unidentified-warplanes-strike-iranian-military-base-southern-syria-skynews-arabia - this is HOT news: Israel would have supposedly attacked Iranian militants posted somewhere in northern Aleppo - 20 dead including Iranian officers
Things are getting tense out there, dudes. The world has been at war for a long time and I dont know how to fix the mess. too many weapons in the world and a great evil circulates. Can there be peace? or will history repeat itself? I think its a question of time but whether its this year or in fifteen years, shit will hit the fan eventually.
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nooneman said: Chemical weapons are seriously inhumane and have been banned since the first world war for a damn good reason. It is inexcusable for any country to use chemical weapons in any context, let alone on civilians
Is it humane for any country to kill anyone ever? is it humane for anyone to ever kill anyone else? i think if everyone resorts to self defense, then there is never humane or non humane killing.
What is humane murder?
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#25139487 - 04/14/18 07:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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nooneman said: We bombed syria! Fuck yeah, go Trump, I'm really glad he had the balls to do this. I was worried he might not do it for a minute, but he pulled through.
Chemical weapons are seriously inhumane and have been banned since the first world war for a damn good reason. It is inexcusable for any country to use chemical weapons in any context, let alone on civilians, and any country that does deserves to be punished.
Trump's been doing great recently.
Reminds me of this one episode of M*A*S*H, where a pilot gets a sprain or something and is treated at the same time as a freshly bombed village of civilians comes in. The pilot asks: "Was it ours or theirs?" Hawkeye: "Does it matter?" Pilot: "Of course it matters!" Hawkeye, looking at a five year old girl missing an arm: "Not to her"
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