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My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *Updating all flushes HERE* * 1
    #25127979 - 04/10/18 09:59 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Below are some pics of my babies growing, picked and then dried.
From all I read it's recommended that you pic right as the vale breaks and caps just starting to open, for best potency per mushroom and to leave more nutrients in substrate for next flush. I did this and heck did they shrink soo tiny once dried! I still got 60g cracker dry (would have probably been 10-20g more if I waited a couple days) So i am happy.

But in next flush I am going to wait till most caps are almost open and they are bigger, i dont need super potency and like some more size but also dont want to waste nutrients, so I will just wait an extra day or two longer than last time.

any how here is my first ever grow, (yes its a F@&^ing kit... I know I know, but it was first time and I still learned a lot and it went well, especially considering I didn't past the straw how they said to because I didn't have a industrial freaking pot lol!
I did each side of the bunch for 1.5hrs in biggest pot I had and hoped for the best.. Next time I'll buy syringe and sterile spawn bags (maybe pasteurized sub) and make my own box/system.

Some questions for people with exp here, if you dont mind:
Do flushes get thicker? It seems like these next up and comers seem thicker so far than last flush, still need 2-3 more days though before picking.
Also, seems like there are ALOT of pinning going on still, not so much in the center (i think because the top soil was a bit clumpy, i tried best to mush it up before putting on but..) This is a good sign and where my next flushes will be?

Do you usually get all your pins to grow out before sub is all used up? or do most just die after 3rd or 4th flush? if most make it I think the flush after this one will be the biggest one yet! :smile:


(Grown grain spawn jar> straw > wait 12-14 days in dark> box and topped with soil> left 5 more days in dark> put out in room and grown with natural indirect sunlight to initiate fruiting.)

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25128036 - 04/10/18 10:24 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

noiiice grooow bud!!


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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: pablokabute]
    #25128044 - 04/10/18 10:27 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

if you want bigger yields, you go get your hands working with agar...


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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: pablokabute]
    #25128060 - 04/10/18 10:37 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Sweet first grow man!


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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25128159 - 04/10/18 11:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Early vs late picking makes a meaningless if any change in potency. Certainly nothing we can tell by eating them.

You could favor more air and the same or less humidity and they may have looked somewhat beefier. They also get beefier in later flushes.

Nice work especially for a first.

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25128463 - 04/10/18 01:18 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Early vs late picking makes a meaningless if any change in potency. Certainly nothing we can tell by eating them.

You could favor more air and the same or less humidity and they may have looked somewhat beefier. They also get beefier in later flushes.

Nice work especially for a first.




Really?  Everything I had been reading previously said that they didn't get much stronger after the veil broke but that they would just keep getting bigger.

So much conflicting information in this field...

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Geepee]
    #25128498 - 04/10/18 01:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Supposedly they only put on water weight thru cell expansion. Either way you dry them out and lose the water.

Maybe smaller mushrooms are more potent but ive Never seen anyone measure so its theory reported as fact over the course of years and years

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: pablokabute]
    #25133142 - 04/12/18 12:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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if you want bigger yields, you go get your hands working with agar...



Thanks man!
I am still learning and honestly I had just bought a couple oz before i started the grow ang im only microdosing for now so it + this will last me likely years, BUT I won't be waiting years to grow these medicinal beauty's  haha, I will be researching and doing it sooner, I have been interested in this agar I see mentioned by what seems to be vets mainly. I am still clueless though so I will research it, thank you.

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25133156 - 04/12/18 12:39 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

@HerbalPotion Thanks!

@bodhisattaM In that case maybe i shoulda waited a day, but its all good.  and on Second flush.... DAMN THEY ARE BIG!!!  less heads but MUCH MUCH MUUUUUCHHHH bigger! some are from the tips of my fingers to my Freaking elbow!! i just days!!  I will post pics.
The wife was even like "HOLY SHIT THEY ARE BIG!!"
I have them drying in dehydrator set at 100 (lowest) but i got wet pics ill post.
And there are still soo many pins which seem like they are coming. I added 250-300ml water after picking to initiate the next flush (said that in instructions after first flush so i assume just continue with that till no more growth, and will continue giving  light spray and few min of fresh air daily . :smile:

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25133187 - 04/12/18 12:51 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

**UPDATE SECOND FLUSH (WET)** PHOTOS:



These came out MUCH MUCH bigger than first flush! its crazy how quick these can grow!

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25133219 - 04/12/18 01:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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@HerbalPotion Thanks!

@bodhisattaM In that case maybe i shoulda waited a day, but its all good.  and on Second flush.... DAMN THEY ARE BIG!!!  less heads but MUCH MUCH MUUUUUCHHHH bigger! some are from the tips of my fingers to my Freaking elbow!! i just days!!  I will post pics.
The wife was even like "HOLY SHIT THEY ARE BIG!!"
I have them drying in dehydrator set at 100 (lowest) but i got wet pics ill post.
And there are still soo many pins which seem like they are coming. I added 250-300ml water after picking to initiate the next flush (said that in instructions after first flush so i assume just continue with that till no more growth, and will continue giving  light spray and few min of fresh air daily . :smile:



You want the dehydrator on the highest setting 160-170F usually

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25133248 - 04/12/18 01:21 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Looking great brother nice fruits!

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25133360 - 04/12/18 02:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks!!


On temp; From alot of reading I gathered that although temps of around 150 would not effect much degradation of potency, that it is best to go lower, lowest setting and/or at 100-120 if possible.
So i just set it at lowest of 100f.
are most using more currently? It seemed more so due to no temp control or lowest setting being higher than 100f.
I figured less heat yest still some to help dry seemed best, am I wrong?

btw after they go in glass jars with a packet of silica/desiccant thats wrapped loosely in foil (so mushies don't directly touch it). I plan to put a new silica packet in 6mo for all containers (3 full 1 ltr jars i bought and likely 3-5 more full from my current grow run) To help ensure no  hidden moisture, then i plan to have them 1-3yrs so ill just put a new pack of silica each year in whatever jars i got left year by year. (wish my cannabis lasted me this long and could use silica without ruining the herb haha)

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    #25133362 - 04/12/18 02:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Good job. :thumbup: what's up next?


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    #25133427 - 04/12/18 02:51 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

That substrate looks really deep is that like 10-12”?


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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25133447 - 04/12/18 03:04 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks!!


On temp; From alot of reading I gathered that although temps of around 150 would not effect much degradation of potency, that it is best to go lower, lowest setting and/or at 100-120 if possible.
So i just set it at lowest of 100f.
are most using more currently? It seemed more so due to no temp control or lowest setting being higher than 100f.
I figured less heat yest still some to help dry seemed best, am I wrong?

btw after they go in glass jars with a packet of silica/desiccant thats wrapped loosely in foil (so mushies don't directly touch it). I plan to put a new silica packet in 6mo for all containers (3 full 1 ltr jars i bought and likely 3-5 more full from my current grow run) To help ensure no  hidden moisture, then i plan to have them 1-3yrs so ill just put a new pack of silica each year in whatever jars i got left year by year. (wish my cannabis lasted me this long and could use silica without ruining the herb haha)



Yes wrong. You're looking up shit wrote by idiots or shit that's decades outdated if it's saying to use anything but the highest setting on the dehydrator.

If they're in air tight jars skip the desiccant because the jar is air tight lol they're going to last years in the jar

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    #25135219 - 04/13/18 09:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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That substrate looks really deep is that like 10-12”?



  the dimensions are; height about 6.5", W: 20" x 11"

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    #25135229 - 04/13/18 09:24 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks!!


On temp; From alot of reading I gathered that although temps of around 150 would not effect much degradation of potency, that it is best to go lower, lowest setting and/or at 100-120 if possible.
So i just set it at lowest of 100f.
are most using more currently? It seemed more so due to no temp control or lowest setting being higher than 100f.
I figured less heat yest still some to help dry seemed best, am I wrong?

btw after they go in glass jars with a packet of silica/desiccant thats wrapped loosely in foil (so mushies don't directly touch it). I plan to put a new silica packet in 6mo for all containers (3 full 1 ltr jars i bought and likely 3-5 more full from my current grow run) To help ensure no  hidden moisture, then i plan to have them 1-3yrs so ill just put a new pack of silica each year in whatever jars i got left year by year. (wish my cannabis lasted me this long and could use silica without ruining the herb haha)



Yes wrong. You're looking up shit wrote by idiots or shit that's decades outdated if it's saying to use anything but the highest setting on the dehydrator.

If they're in air tight jars skip the desiccant because the jar is air tight lol they're going to last years in the jar




Cool, well I am new to cultivating so I wont argue with others that have more exp if i am not sure. well now they been in dehydrator for 20hrs and ready to pack in jar, I am going to still use silica packs though just to be safe and because I already bought them and they where only for this use anyways (and cheap so w/e)
Thanks for the reply!
I will try next flush on 150-160 unless i get something concrete as to why not to.

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Re: My first ever grow! First flush 60g CRACKER dry, picked small as rec. *PHOTOS*Question* [Re: Blergs]
    #25135251 - 04/13/18 09:30 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Actives don't degrade until well above 300.

If my dehydrator could hit 200f, if set it to that. You can boil shrooms with water to make potent teas at 212f.

160-180 in the dehydrator isn't harming anything.:heart:

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    #25135331 - 04/13/18 09:56 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

^^  Then i could have cut my drying time in half... hey, live and learn. : )

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