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ShowerScotch
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BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma
#25131760 - 04/11/18 08:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have 10 1/2 pint cakes going. 5 of one strain is going strong and basically fully colonized. 3 of another strain aren’t quite ready except one which has grown tiny mushrooms in the jar and another 2 are struggling but about half colonized. Should I just birth them all, rise off any unused brf cake and spawn to sub.... or wait until it’s all colonized. Any experienced knowledge would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25131768 - 04/11/18 08:09 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would wait until they are all colonized. You don't want to waste what will most likely be healthy spawn by brushing off uncolonized sub and birthing early. The one pinning in the jar should be fine to wait a little.
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25131769 - 04/11/18 08:11 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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IMO you could birth those 5 which are ready plus the other one which is growing pins. Wait for the rest to be ready as trying to birth cakes with uncolonized substrate is always a big mess, opening up the doors of so many nutrients to contaminants is calling for trouble.
I'm guessing your going to fruit all in the same chamber? just group them by strain and then by fruiting date so you can keep track of progress.
Good luck!
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: Madoxx]
#25131780 - 04/11/18 08:17 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the pinning one fully colonized? Definitely wait on the 50%
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: Madoxx]
#25131784 - 04/11/18 08:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Madoxx said: IMO you could birth those 5 which are ready plus the other one which is growing pins. Wait for the rest to be ready as trying to birth cakes with uncolonized substrate is always a big mess, opening up the doors of so many nutrients to contaminants is calling for trouble.
I'm guessing your going to fruit all in the same chamber? just group them by strain and then by fruiting date so you can keep track of progress.
Good luck!
I think OP is trying to make a mini monotub not birth as cakes, judging by the title of the tread.
OP, if you are indeed fruting as cakes then listen to Madoxx
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Spawn what you have fully colonized,fruit the cake with pins,wait for the rest.
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: mushroomnate]
#25131818 - 04/11/18 08:35 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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If the pinning one is fully colonized, you can pick the fruits and then shred, or fruit. Your choice. If it isn't fully colonized it's a sign of contamination.
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: wushroow]
#25131825 - 04/11/18 08:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’ve had jars pin that weren’t 100% and didn’t have contams. Think it may have been more moisture than the other jars. Could be a sign of contams though...
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I am indeed trying to do mini monos from the brf cakes
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25132041 - 04/11/18 10:15 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can spawn cakes to a bulk sub when they reach 100% colonization, but I would wait a few more days to let them consolidate. If you spawn the cake that is pining right now it will take a long time to colonize a tub because its not a lot of spawn.
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Ohh skipped reading the title, late times in my part of the world, cheers
OP are you making a mono for each strain or all on the same mono?
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: Madoxx]
#25132554 - 04/12/18 06:40 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd say 2-3 BRF cakes per quart of sub
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: wushroow]
#25132991 - 04/12/18 11:18 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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wushroow said: I'd say 2-3 BRF cakes per quart of sub 
A 1:1 ration of spawn to sub is always recommended to speed up colonization times. You can probably get away with a 1:3 ration of spawn to sub though. 1:3 ratio is what I used for my current tub and its's at 100% a week later.
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: Madoxx]
#25133117 - 04/12/18 12:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol no worries. Separate strain mini tubs. Also why am I being called OP? Lol
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Yup. I have two 4 quart Tupperware containers that I’m going to use as mini monos. I’m going to get as close to a 1:1 raitio as I can. The brf jars are 1/2 pints so 4 1/2 pints will roughly equal 2 quarts. I have more than enough of one strain to make one mini tub but deff not the other strain (only have two 1/2 pints colonized of the other strain)The fit perfectly in a 66 quart monotub. Plan is to use perilite in monotub to keep humidity levels up. While colonizing. Obviously going to black out the mini tubs while colonizing using black trash bag inside minitub and tinfoil over the top with a hole or two poked through. Sound good?
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25133215 - 04/12/18 01:02 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Because you're the Original Poster of this thread
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: wushroow]
#25133226 - 04/12/18 01:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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LOL got it
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25133342 - 04/12/18 02:13 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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ShowerScotch said: Yup. I have two 4 quart Tupperware containers that I’m going to use as mini monos. I’m going to get as close to a 1:1 raitio as I can. The brf jars are 1/2 pints so 4 1/2 pints will roughly equal 2 quarts. I have more than enough of one strain to make one mini tub but deff not the other strain (only have two 1/2 pints colonized of the other strain)The fit perfectly in a 66 quart monotub. Plan is to use perilite in monotub to keep humidity levels up. While colonizing. Obviously going to black out the mini tubs while colonizing using black trash bag inside minitub and tinfoil over the top with a hole or two poked through. Sound good?
You dont need to do the perlite thing. I don't recommend blacking them out either as you have said. Light during colonization in a good thing.
If you do a mini mono with 1 quart of spawn of the one strain and 3 quarts of sub you should be fine.
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Right on. Thanks. Why do I keep hearing that you need to (or it’s just a good idea) keep it in the dark while the spawn colonized the bulk sub?
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25133671 - 04/12/18 05:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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ShowerScotch said: Right on. Thanks. Why do I keep hearing that you need to (or it’s just a good idea) keep it in the dark while the spawn colonized the bulk sub?
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: mushroomnate]
#25133826 - 04/12/18 06:14 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good to know! Appreciate it
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25137395 - 04/14/18 01:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ended up shredding to bulk and doing the mini monos. Will keep updated.
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Ended up birthing and shedding to minitubs with a Hpoo based substrate on night of 4/13. It’s 4/15 and the one I did at almost a 1:1 ratio is colonizing real fast with a good amount of white on top of the minitub already. The other one which was more like a 1:2/1:3 ratio also has a good amount of white on top just not as much. Keeping colonizing conditions at a high humidity and around 72 degrees. The lids on the mini tubs have 5 small poke holes in them made with a steak knife, that should allow for enough air Exchange yes? Note: When I lifted the lids off the minitubs they had quite a bit of condensation on the underside of them. I’m assuming it’s due to the higher temp inside the mini monos causing the condensation and it’s nothing to worry about?
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25142245 - 04/15/18 10:31 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: Ziran]
#25142410 - 04/16/18 01:03 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dope! Thanks man
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25142720 - 04/16/18 07:22 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds good to me. If you find there isnt enough airflow, punch more holes. Some minitubs dont even need holes at all though. Also, the condensation is due to the mycelium breathing. Its sort of like when you breath and fog up a car window.
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dont trust midgets said: Its sort of like when you breath and fog up a car window.
Idk why, but this reminded me of that scene from Titanic where they get freaky in the car lol
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Should more holes be poked due to the large amount of condensation? I’m kinda assuming no considering it’s suppoded to be at 98/99% humidity.
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25143495 - 04/16/18 02:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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It should be fine. Im currently working with a shoebox that gets lots of condensation and its looking good so far
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Lol right on man Thanks again
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Ended up turning out very well. Got 1.75 oz dry first flush, and it’s almost done with the second flush. 2nd is looking to be a bit less. Thanks for all the help!
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Re: BRF Cakes to mini mono dilemma [Re: ShowerScotch]
#25188377 - 05/06/18 06:51 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Glad to hear it!
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Thanks man!
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