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First trays, getting close? What to do next...
    #25131514 - 04/11/18 06:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Hey all, so I am new to this hobby, growing for my chronic, med resistant  depression. My first grow went well, PF BRF cakes and now I've got a couple small trays colonizing. I didnt think they would do very well to be honest, but I think they are. My problem now is, now I don't know what I should do next, or the best way to go about it. Here's some pics of them.


My confusion is; Do these look ready to fruit? Do they need to be cased? I have coir/verm which I hear is ok to case with, is the casing layer supposed to be dry or wet? I assume dry but don't know for sure. Quite frankly its the old, "ya don't know what ya don't know" kinda thing. Not even sure what else I should be asking or looking for. I do use the search but to be honest, I'm an older guy back in college full time for a new career, after my last job market was destroyed by outsourcing. (Also one source of my chronic depression). Its finals time before I graduate and do not have time to spend sifting through looking for legit, recent info. Needless to say, any advice/help would really be appreciated! Thanks HUGE people!


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25131521 - 04/11/18 06:30 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about casing at all.  I would focus on your surface conditions as your tubs look quite dry.  As long as you get that adjusted it should fruit just fine!  How are you planning on fruiting them?  What tek are you following?


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Psicomb]
    #25131529 - 04/11/18 06:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I put mine and lot of others put there's right into fruiting conditions the day they spawn just keep surface conditions ideal and you will be fine.


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25131533 - 04/11/18 06:39 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Hey all, so I am new to this hobby, growing for my chronic, med resistant  depression. My first grow went well, PF BRF cakes and now I've got a couple small trays colonizing. I didnt think they would do very well to be honest, but I think they are. My problem now is, now I don't know what I should do next, or the best way to go about it. Here's some pics of them.


My confusion is; Do these look ready to fruit? Do they need to be cased? I have coir/verm which I hear is ok to case with, is the casing layer supposed to be dry or wet? I assume dry but don't know for sure. Quite frankly its the old, "ya don't know what ya don't know" kinda thing. Not even sure what else I should be asking or looking for. I do use the search but to be honest, I'm an older guy back in college full time for a new career, after my last job market was destroyed by outsourcing. (Also one source of my chronic depression). Its finals time before I graduate and do not have time to spend sifting through looking for legit, recent info. Needless to say, any advice/help would really be appreciated! Thanks HUGE people!




Yup it is dry for sure when did you spawn them? You need to work on surface conditions and that is it for now.

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: kanemush]
    #25131572 - 04/11/18 06:50 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

give this surface conditions tek a read. it's good info.

throwing a little coir verm mix on top won't hurt anything but you don't need to if you follow that write up. it also depends how you plan on fruiting them. if you aren't putting them in some sort of tub that's designed for proper air exchange and humidity then i'd probably suggest a thin casing. it'll help keep the surface nice for pinning. but if you are going to set it up right (and or stay really on top of your surface conditions) then you don't need a casing.

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25132338 - 04/12/18 03:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Wow thanks for the quick replies everyone. I had it in a separate box wrapped in foil with slits in it. Not sure which tek I was using, read alot of them and kinda working from memory on what sounded good, TBH. Last night as soon as I saw your replies I put them in my SGFC, took off the foil and misted them pretty heavily. This is what they looked like after I misted them and put them in my box. Its getting crowded in my fc now though, and think maybe I should leave them out with foil on them for a little longer. I had spawned them about 9 days ago, mixed my grain with 50/50 coir/verm, then put a thin layer of more wet 50/50 coir/verm on top, but the mycilium grew through it, so I'm not sure if that was an actual casing layer or not, thought it was but idk, I'm probably confusing my shit up again.... I sprayed them again this morning, but think I should wrap them back up in foil for now, until they are ready to fruit. I'm not home alot lately and thinking foil will keep them moist better, until they are more mature.... Soooo confused! Lol



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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25133102 - 04/12/18 12:10 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

don't wrap them back up in foil. you are fine. 50/50 coir verm is pretty heavy on the verm and robs your sub of some of the nutrition that coir should be offering but it's fine.

it's not a "proper" casing, technically, but people have been using it as a "casing" (with success) for quite some time.

as far as the surface condition go. don't trip on seeing little water beads until the myc is covering the casing. at first you just have to be able to see if the surface is drying out but once the myc is covering it the water will start to bead up. keep that surface happy and she'll keep you happy. :douchewink:

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25134026 - 04/12/18 08:02 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Ok Verum thanks, I went with your advice..... (I'd be stupid not to listen to an experienced person) makes me nervous because I'm gone alot and worry about drying out. She Definatly looks much happier now too. Amazing what a little drink can do to a lady....
Rough day today, dosed to snap myself out of my own head.... If that makes sense..... It worked! Took 3 1GM doses but it definitely helped!
Thanks Verum, and my lil shroomie-girl..... My darling

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25134097 - 04/12/18 08:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

right on man. keep us updated and don't be shy if you have questions. that's why we are here, to learn and to help others learn about the magical kingdom.

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25140726 - 04/15/18 10:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Happy times! I do,the dance of joy! Haha! I have pinnage with my very first trays thanks to y'all! Look it, seeee.....




I really do thank you for helping me get it right the first time! I noticed that I'm getting alot of pinning on the edges of the trays, is there a reason for that? I'm thinking it was something I did because when I was told that the trays liked dry, I misted pretty heavy, and noticed some pooling so I cracked the edges open to let water go down, to give underneath a drink as well. I used sterile water so I'm not too worried about contams going down there, though I'm sure it could be transferred from the top I guess. Didn't think of that till after the fact. Lol
But I'm considering myself very lucky that both my first pfbrf jars and grain trays are working out so far, thanks to,everyone here that is! Definitely could not have done it with you guys! You all rock!


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25140764 - 04/15/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

congrats man.

ok.... sterile water is not needed. once your shit is colonized it's pretty strong and doesn't need protected so much. i wouldn't suggest sneezing or pooping on it but sterile water is way over board for misting.

side pinning is caused by conditions being better on the side than they are on the top. mushrooms like to pin wherever it's best to pin. if the best climate for pinning is in the little gap between the container and the sub, they will pin there.

you have to learn to keep conditions best on the surface so that the network decides to pin there. that's why i sent you come back kid's surface conditions write up. it's been a while since i read it but i feel like it explains pretty well.

heavy misting to the point of puddling is no bueno. you want light gentle mists that cause a beautiful little glisten

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25140850 - 04/15/18 11:42 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Lol ok good to know, wasn't sure so I figured better safe then sorry. That'll make it easier instead of boiling every other day lol
I did check that link out that you'd sent me, and thank you! Hard to know if a tek is valid by doing a search so it's great when someone that knows their shit point you in the right direction. I definitely need to go back to it and digest it better. My life is INSANELY busy at the moment and really appreciate you helping me cutting to the meat and potatoes of it all. Come mid May my life will be mine again.... Pretty much lol So after first flush is done I'd dunk these the same way as a pf cake, correct? Do I just pop them out of the trays to do it? Just want to make sure, don't want to break my babies lol


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25141081 - 04/15/18 01:04 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

people do it in different ways. i just dump some water into the container and let is sit for a while (2-10 hours) it all depends on how dry your substrate is. i just check in on them from time to time and drain the excess water once they stop drinking it. then i mist them and keep surface conditions nice through the next flush. myc will act a little differently once it's been abused a bit so you have to learn not to over mist on your second flush. if it's been damaged much by harvesting, drying out or over watering it will become matted down and will no longer form nice little water beads.

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25141362 - 04/15/18 03:08 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmmm, ok very interesting, thanks. That may explain why my first cake is having a tough time with the second flush. I just put them all in for a second dunk too. I used running water and lightly wrapped my hand around them to rub the verm off under the water. I'm hoping it wasn't too rough and matted them down like your describing..... I shall find out I suppose.
Another question, would it be good to take them out of the trays and place them on a rack so the side pinning can take place easier?


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25141373 - 04/15/18 03:14 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

it's not a bad idea. i've done it both ways with great sucess. some people argue in each direction. in the tray with proper surface moisture equals one great pinning surface while out of the tray equals a lot more surface are for pinning but probably (unless you're a micro climate genius) less than ideal pinning conditions on most surfaces.

it'll also dry out a lot faster if you take it out. but i just remembered (look up) that you are in a shotgun. that will help with the moisture.

six of one half dozen of the other, i'd say

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25141489 - 04/15/18 04:25 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Haha! I was afraid that was gonna be the answer.... Not really :wink:
Well if thats the "case" I think I'll remove one, one has more side pinning going on, ill toss some verm on it, all sides to try and keep the micro climate good and keep my fingers crossed. Lol
Ill keep you updated bud :thumbup:


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25141722 - 04/15/18 06:17 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

So, holy Crap! I pulled the one out of the trays and there must have been a couple hundred pins on the sides and the bottom! Needless to say, being a Freakin noob I panicked abit. Lol then settled down and decided to give it a good misting, put a little verm on and leaned it up against the side of the fc. Not really knowing wtf to do, I'm winging it. Here's a couple pics of what it looks like. Didn't get a pic of the bottom because I was still in panic mode, sprayed it down and vermed it a little. Not heavy, hope this was an ok move lol



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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25145519 - 04/17/18 12:18 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I decided to lay them back down, concerned the water would run off too quick and dry them out. Looks pretty good so far. More then expected. I got me a strange one, or should I say pair..... Simease shrooms! Lol



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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25145549 - 04/17/18 12:29 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Initiation is moot. It will fruit when it wants to as long as conditions are vaguely met. Its not up to you. Looks healthy though. Too humid but healthy. 4y5 days before first pins est...


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Neutrino]
    #25145584 - 04/17/18 12:48 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

definitely not up to me, it's like a newborn baby You do what it wants whether you want to or not if you wanted to survive. All I'm trying to do is listen to what it's telling me it wants, I've made a lot of mistakes along the way but my babies are still surviving LOL


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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25152044 - 04/19/18 10:22 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Did my harvest on my 2 trays the other day, 218gms wet. Very pleased and will test them out tomorrow night, can't wait! I think 2gms will be a good place to shoot for.
Thanks to all, and Verum, you were a huge help man, can't thank you enough! Wouldn't have gotten what I did!




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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: Rombino]
    #25152057 - 04/19/18 10:31 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

right on. congratulations man. I''m stoked for you. keep at it and your yields will get better and better.

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Re: First trays, getting close? What to do next... [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25163952 - 04/25/18 07:35 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hey thanks Verum! My 2 mini trays are doing second flush now, but for some reason my first cakes only flushed once, all four. I'm guessing I hurt them somehow? They are starting to grow through the verm I rolled on after 2nd dunk so idk.... Could I break them up at this point and tray them with a sub/casing? Just curious or if they are past the point for that now. I've also got 4 more PF jars about 50-90% colonized now, AND a bigger tray that I grain spawned into with coir/verm a few daze ago...... Hoot! Lol


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