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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26819360 - 07/12/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Ice Cream Cake starting week 8







:drooling:


Nice, looking greasy!...I dig the colors too. Those purples & greens with the orange hairs contrasting on the close up pic looks cool.

Hard tellin' with no reference point, but they don't look like the most chunky/fattest buds for being at week 8 already...I know some varieties do swell up a bunch during the last week or so tho.

I've wondered about what differences/nuances might come about from buds that develop/ripen under the peak summer sun/light spectrum, versus buds that develop/ripen during the late summer/fall sun light/spectrum.

One of the small reasons I was wanting to do light dep on a few plants this summer was to flower them under the peak summer sun light....I was originally planning on flippin em' around the end of June but at this point I'm just going to let em' go full term, only 2 to 3 more weeks until most plants start to stretch & transition to flowering.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: koods]
    #26828912 - 07/17/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Just put one of my plants in my garden behind the electric fence that I had to string up due to the deer. Never had one in the ground before. I expect it to grow to massive proportions :yesnod:








Right on.

Nothing better than having em' in the ground. Though it is a lil late into the season, most varieties outdoors will start to stretch and transition into flowering in about 2 to 3 weeks....Still tho, no doubt that plant will be much larger in the ground than it would have been stuck in a pot.

After seeing how much vigor and how quickly and large they grow in the ground I'll likely be growing in the ground from here on out. The only issue is that I'll have to protect their roots from gophers.



I put one of my last plants/clones in the ground about a week ago (Mirage)....I was holding onto it for a while because a friend was going to take it but he never got around to it so I just placed it in the ground and snipped the tip to encourage its branches to grow out more.

I may have mentioned it before in this thread...but since I'm growing more plants than I have before and since they're all much larger than any plant I've grown before, it's looking like I might not have enough space to hang/dry all of my harvest. Not a bad problem to have but I'm trying to think about what I'm going to do lol. Hoping a few plants ripen up a week earlier or later than others so I'm not having to harvest and hang up/dry everything around the same time.

I'm also thinking I'm going to have to ask some friends to help me trim because what I got last year was about the most I'd want to trim all myself and I'm thinking I'm going to have at least twice as much as I got last year.

Also thinking about all the jars I'm going to have to use for curing/storage. Previous years I've used quart jars (a dozen jars was just enough to hold all of my harvest last year), this time around I'll probably get a few gallon size jars and/or use some small totes for curing.



I picked up a blend of some fish-bone meal, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, and pot sulfate that I'm going to be top dressing my soil with next week for a boost of -PK (3-9-4) shortly before the plants start to transition into flowering.

I still haven't given my in ground plants anything at all besides a little bit of fermented plant tea (fermented the male plant I chopped)...Other than that they've received nothing but water so far this grow and they're still looking super lush and packing on lots of growth each day.






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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26832585 - 07/19/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Omg my city plants are out of control. One of them is 7’ tall or 6’ minus the pot. High dose fish guts is da bomb.

I have to figure out what to do with this one. That is too tall for the patio. We want to keep them from peeking over the top. It’s the one I didn’t top. Maybe I should just top it or is there anything more interesting that can be done?








Dang...That main stalk did shoot upwards a lot since you last posted pics of em' which wasn't long ago at all lol. I think it was when you mentioned you were giving them a rich feed with that fish emulsion.

Are those lights on all night?






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tie it down towards the ground a bit, in a bow, it'll just go back up from there. Almost like supercropping only without stress.





^this is what I was going to suggest too.

I'd figure out a way to bend over & tie down the plant and/or just top it. Once bent over, then all of the secondary branches become tops.





Considering you have to keep the plants in that spot short, in general I'd highly suggest bending and low stress training your plants instead of letting them grow upwards with one dominant cola/top. (tho it is a bit late in the season to start shaping/bending plants, some bending/training can def still be done).

All my plants I bend and train, basically bending/tying the branches down a bit and "opening up" the plant, sprawling out the branches a bit....This not only create multiple tops/prime buds but keeps the plants short & squat.










Not a textbook example, but here's one of my plants last year that I kept low by bending/training/opening it up. It still ended up with one branch/top that was a bit more "dominant" than the others, but the bud size/development was pretty even across the entire plant.









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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26832724 - 07/19/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Some experimental LST we tried this year. Left the shade cloth on for 2 days and let the plants grow into it and bush out, worked pretty well.







Seems like a nifty way to bush out a bunch of plants with low impact and saving a lot of time. Never seen that method before, I can see how it'd work nicely tho.

When there are a lot of plants to manage I can imagine the simplest of tasks can add up & end up taking a while.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26836109 - 07/21/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Outdoor Strawberry Banana Auto

Outdoor Gelato Auto

Fasciation in an indoor Juanita La Lagrimosa bud







Cool ! :awesome:


Fasciated buds look super cool. I've seen it happen on some large/outdoor buds before, looked real neat & beautiful. All spread/fanned out, like a cacti that crests.

I'm growing a "Strawberry Banana" photo right now, don't know if that auto you have is related in anyway tho or if it's just the name. (mine is Banana OG X Bubblegum...Crockett’s Banana Kush and the strawberry phenotype of Serious Seeds’ Bubble Gum strain)

It's my smallest plant...It's a clone and I think it kinda "stalled" a bit and/or was just on the verge of flipping into flower, I'm not sure, it kinda just stopped growing for a while and wasn't doing much or expanding roots. I got it back around the beginning of June and it's only just now starting to expand roots and start to veg/grow again.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26840768 - 07/23/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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It isn't necessary to urinate on your plants.









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home grown chicken shit and worm castings are the two greatest organic all-purpose fertilizers i have used. pigs are gross. chicken manure is rocket fuel for plants





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Any sort of home-grown fertilizer is the bees knees.

I won't touch or use any chicken shit that has come from anywhere other than someone's own personal land/chickens (I don't even eat chicken unless it comes from someone's own land/hand and if they were taken care of and lived a decent life and ate a diverse/clean diet)...Same in regards to all manures, I don't want anything that is coming from animals that were stuck in factory "farm" and chock full of hormones and other crap going into my soil/plants. Same reason I don't use blood meal.

I'm super picky & mindful about the source of things.



Last year I started a basic composting pit in the ground that I'd turn over occasionally...I tossed all of my food scraps into it for about 8 months. It naturally attracted tons of worms and other detritivores. And then earlier this spring I gave all of my pots a nice thick layer of the stuff. I was super stoked to use it for some reason lol. Just knowing that all of my food scraps over about 8 months or so that would have otherwise went to "waste", are now providing my soil & plants with life & nourishment (lots of scraps from broccoli, asparagus, peppers, melons, egg shells, peanut shells, strawberries, mango skins, papaya skins, banana peels, lots of trimmings/leaves/stalks from last summer's plants, along with clippings of dry grass/nettles/mallow from my yard).




I def wanna have some of my own chickens sometime in the next few years tho! It's something I've been thinking about and looking into...They're beautiful creatures, kinda goofy/have character, and will provide me with eggs & manure :awesome: .

And I've been meaning to start my own worm bin/vermiculture too.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26847867 - 07/27/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Kush Cake


Ice Cream Cake


Enough with the cakes, trust me, I know. I'll have some more variety in the near future. Started a bunch of seeds kinda late in the season, only kept a few based on structure/vigor/sex. This Freshmaker from Cult Classic is killing it.


Also excited for the Jah Goo x Larry OG (made by a friend) that I kept.






Lookin' good!

Jah Goo X Larry OG sounds like a real nice one for sure!


I know the "cakes" have been the hype over the past couple years, I do love me some cake tho :yesnod: lol . I had some "Jungle Cake" recently that was lovely, earthy/kushy underneath and slightly gassy but with that sweet doughy/frosting note on top. I still have not had "Ice Cream Cake" .


I'm growing a "Wedding Cake" this time around (first time growing this strain). I'm looking forward to smelling the fresh resin in the mornings, I've never smelled the fresh/uncured resin of Wedding Cake...Aroma is a big part of growing & enjoying this plant for myself. As someone who's been a bit obsessed/really into aromas since I was a toddler, getting to smell the complex aromas of the buds in the mornings after gently tickling em' with my finger is such a joy for me lol. It's crazy how complex and deep the aromas of fresh/uncured resin can be, doesn't even smell like "weed"...smells straight up divine, like a perfume or cologne that fell from heaven lol.

And I'm growing more variety than I have before this time around, so I have 9 different aromas I get to enjoy each morning :awesome: .





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: coda]
    #26853661 - 07/30/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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quick snap from some GMO on my last grow.





Looks frosty.

I still have yet to smell/smoke any GMO....I know it's been one of the hype/popular strains over the past 2 years or so.

What sort of aroma/essence did your GMO have? I know there's a handful of different phenos/cuts of it that have somewhat different smells/characteristics.








I can tell most of my plants are starting to transition to flowering over the past 2 days or so....Starting to stretch a lil bit and there's a lot more "going on" at the nodes. The "Sour Diesel X Lemon Kush" already has some teeny tiny trichomes forming on the inner portions of the top leaves, no distinct aroma yet tho.

I've been thinning out the insides and lower portions of my plants over the past 5 days or so....I heard someone use the term "carving out bud-sites" recently in regards to thinning/cleaning up the plant getting it ready for developing chunky buds, I dig it :smirk: , that's kinda what it feels like. It's tedious but tends to be very relaxing & meditative for me.

My method is removing any bud-sites that won't be receiving much direct sunlight. The first budsite/inner most bud-site on each branch I tend to remove, and any other bud-sites along the inner/lower portion of the plant that won't get much direct sunlight, or anywhere things are a bit cluttered/crowded I'll cut away a small branch to open things up a bit. Previous years I removed bud-sites and fan leaves from the lower/inner portions, this time around tho I'm mostly only removing bud-sites. I know some folks remove fan leaves and bud-sites but I'm leaving most fan leaves along the lower/inner part of the plant intact since I view them as batteries/storage. By doing this I feel I'm creating a higher ratio of bud-sites to leaves, more "sources" and less "sinks" . More points of energy producers/storage and less points of energy consumption.

Man...I was stoked about having some "big" plants this time around, and I still am, but they sure can be time consuming lol. Having to literally crawl up underneath and inside the plant to give it a clean up. And it makes me sooo gosh dang itchy, my arms break out in hives/rashes each time.

I can totally understand now why some people prefer to keep their plants relatively smaller in size, makes managing them a lot easier.

Things are looking good here tho. I still haven't given my in-ground plants anything at all besides water. I knew the earth/soil in my area was pretty good but didn't think it was so nutritious it could grow a large healthy plant for 3 months with out any signs of any deficiencies at all.

I gotta get some BT and start a foliar regimen with that stuff to keep caterpillars in check. I haven't used any pesticides at all yet this grow (spinosad and BT is usually all I've used previous years). I've actually been pretty "light handed" with everything this year, haven't gave my soil/plants much at all but they're still truckin' along just fine. This is the 3rd year I've used the same soil in my fabric pots, so it's probably better than ever.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26865311 - 08/05/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ill be honest with you in that I am not one of those types of people who give super flowery descriptions of what their herb tastes/smells like.  I stick with pretty basic aromas instead of "smells like oranges that fucked a pineapple then coated themselves with bannna".

That being said the general nose from the jar is more of an earthy one.  Bringing a bud up to the nose directly and breaking open some resin glads brings out a funk followed by light hints of citrus and pine (but nothing overwhelming, almost have to look for it).  I will admit that this harvest was my first go at this particular cut and I feel like I didn't do a good job (yet), so its quite possible the flavor/aroma profile will change as i get more familiar with it.  If it helps this cut came from Aroma Therapeutic Genetics and is supposed to be the skunkmaster flex cut.

As it stands now its pretty average in terms of taste and smell, but a bowl of it puts me on my ass which is what matters most to me.





I hear ya.

I'm pretty obsessed with aromas in general so I can sometimes be one that goes on waxing poetic about the aroma some buds/strains have lol.

I know GMO is known to sometimes have more of a "savory" essence to it, with notes of garlic and/or onion.

The stuff you posted looks killer tho :thumbup: .





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here's some more cuts i have from ATG






Is that how you got the cuts from the store?...Or were they shipped to you?








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Man...I was stoked about having some "big" plants this time around, and I still am, but they sure can be time consuming lol. Having to literally crawl up underneath and inside the plant to give it a clean up. And it makes me sooo gosh dang itchy, my arms break out in hives/rashes each time.

I can totally understand now why some people prefer to keep their plants relatively smaller in size, makes managing them a lot easier.





Imagine having to bottom 2000+ plants.


They aren't massive full term trees, but still... :header:





Dang, yea I can imagine that'd be quite a task with that many plants.

I mean I take my time with my plants, but even with the few that I have going on it takes a while to get things done like thinning em' out prior to flowering.






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Some small tester plants we squeezed in one of our beds...

Sour Limón Larry, small nugs but super tasty smoke.


Alien Rift, rock hard buds but weird terps, I don't care for it.


Sour Larry Pebbles, too finicky for greenhouse production.


Some Ice Cream Cake lowers ready for sampling.







All of it looks fuego! Yuam :drooling:


What sort of smell did that "Alien Rift" have or what didn't you like about it?


What sort of soil/"nutes" are those light dep plants being grown with? It looks like they're in long beds and kinda growing together into a "hedge" (?). I assume that's a common style/approach with light dep?





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26880255 - 08/14/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone o you got an ultrasonic bath (for cleaning jewelry n such), bubble bags, fresh weed, and the drive to make some hash??

I wanna know if an ultrasonic bath could replace the stirring in ice water extractions.

Thoughts?






I've had the same exact thought/idea :grin: lol.

I read about someone trying it before, pretty sure it was on some other forums for growing cannabis, and from what I remember it didn't work out for them at all.

I think a machine that produces a nice swirling water vortex probably does the trick the best.

I've definitively pondered & thought about an ultrasonic cleaner being used though. The concept/idea behind it seems like it'd be the perfect and most gentle way to thoroughly separate trichomes from buds.







Anyone have any experience with or anything to say about using fresh/live uncured bud material for making bubble hash? I'm not talking about fresh frozen or fresh chilled, but straight from the plant and into the buckets (I don't have a freezer than can flash freeze the material properly rapidly enough to prevent the rupturing of cells/leaking of chlorophyll, so if I want to use fresh material I'll have to do it immediately after harvest). When it comes time to harvest I was thinking about cutting the colas off the plant and breaking em' down into smaller buds directly into buckets of ice water and washing/sieving em' into hash right away immediately after harvest. The only issue I can think of is the high levels of chlorophyll in fresh/uncured buds leaching into the water and ruining the quality of the hash...I assume I'd have to do a relatively short & quick wash on the material? Not sure how quickly chlorophyll will start to leach into ice cold water. I'm also not sure how easily the heads of trichomes are broken off when the buds are still super greasy/oily/sticky, in my mind I just imagine fresh buds "holding onto" the trichomes a bit more so than buds that have been dried & cured a bit....but at the same time, once near freezing cold, I imagine the trich heads can be knocked off easily even when the buds are still very fresh/alive.

I know live rosin starts with bubble hash made from live/fresh material, but it's done with material that's been flash frozen. Not sure if there's much of a difference between bud that was flash frozen immediately after harvest or bud fresh off the plant that was never frozen. I can't really think of any besides maybe the trichomes separating from/breaking off the frozen stuff a bit easier.






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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: mushroomnate]
    #26890001 - 08/20/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yesterday I spotted what I suspect are russet mites on my largest most beautiful plant. Any of ya'll deal with em' before?....Just wondering what approach I should take from here? My head is spinning with all these different miticides like venerate and grandeva and azamax and prf 97 and sulfur washes and iso-alcohol etc etc etc etc....also predatory mites.

What course of action should I take? (particularly for someone on a tight budget, what can be done cheaply).....Will predatory mites be effective at all at this point or are they more of a preventative measure? What miticide do ya'll suggest? Is Pyrethrum ok to use for a "knock out" to kill them?

And do any of you know where one can purchase small units of a miticide? Seems like everywhere I look they only come in 1 gallon and up with costs around $200+...I only have a few plants and I can't afford gallons of the stuff. I only need maybe a pint, even that will likely last me a while.



They seemed to have appeared "over night". I spend a good portion of time each day glancing over and observing these plants. Just yesterday I applied some spinosad and didn't see anything on this plant. But today while walking around and giving the plants a "look over" I noticed there were a few leaves with their edges curling inward just a tiny slight bit on this one. And on those leaves, with the naked eye and a weak 10x scope, I see what looks to be some orange-ish specs that appear cylindrical in shape that are more concentrated where the leaf attaches to the petiole. There aren't tons of them, and I can't get a clear view of them with my 10x scope, but I suspect the specs I see are mites....There are no other signs of them at all, the leaves still appear lush & green and don't have any markings on them.

I'm assuming these are russet mites? And thinking I've caught them relatively early? If so, how quickly are these things going to spread through out the plant?

Besides a few leaves with their edges curling the entire plant looks very healthy, this is happening on maybe 3% to 5% of the plant at the very most (about 6ft tall and 7ft wide canopy)....So even tho it still looks completely healthy is this plant pretty much completely fucked at this point?

Out of my 6 other small plants only one appears to possibly have some mites on it (no visible damage and no leaf curl anywhere, but I think I've spotted some with my naked eye and a 10x scope).


I can't think of anything else that would make the edges of leaves curl inward like that. It has been super hot & dry in my area the past week, up around 110 for almost a week straight, but I assume all the leaves on a plant would have edges curling if it was heat stress and not just a few of them(?).


This is a huge bummer...being on a super tight budget and growing entirely for my own personal annual smoke, I'll be wrecked if these bastards take out my biggest/best looking plant or any of my plants. And it seems like the miticides that I need to wipe em' out are way out of my budget...I don't kno WTF to do, it kills me knowing I'm probably going to see the largest & most beautiful plant that I've grown so far and possibly some others slowly die/become ruined and I can't do anything about it.


It also seems like there isn't a miticide that most people agree works...from reading around the internet it seems like what one person swears by another person says it doesn't work at all. Most people seem to agree that spinosad and BT work for caterpillars, but it looks like there is no agreement on what works for mites.




This fucking sucks :nonono: :sad: .






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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26893603 - 08/22/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Bump your room to 120-140 degrees for a couple hours.  See if that helps.





I'm growing outdoors.





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How are you identifying them as russet mites? It can be pretty tough to see them, and they usually cause the leaves to be shiny and deformed looking.






I haven't actually been able to take a look at the leaves with a proper 60X to 100X scope to confirm they are russet mites.

But from the symptoms I'm seeing I'm assuming what I have going on is russet mites :shrug: .

Edges of leaves curling. On those leaves (with my naked eye and a 10x scope) I can see some tiny "specs" that look basically like bits of dust and have a very slight orange/red color and they are more concentrated around where the petiole attaches to the leaf. The budsites near these leaves that have edges curling have pistils that are pretty much dead on arrival, the pistils are brown/red and small/shriveled instead of whitish and standing on end/hairy. Seems like these buds aren't developing right at all. The newest/youngest leaves developing at the tops are super super skinny/tiny and don't look right.


Within 24 hours now I'm seeing this happening on almost all of my plants, and it is spreading pretty rapidly through out my big plant. Each day since I spotted this happening it's only spreading more so. I've already removed several large branches that had this going on just to try to prevent em' from spreading more but at this rate I'll have nothing but a stump left within a few more days.

What ever is happening it's preventing buds from developing properly since the pistils are all basically dead/brown/shriveled are soon as they appear. The plants all look healthy otherwise tho. Even the leaves that have their edges curling are green/lush with no distinct markings on them.



I got your PM :wink:...I'll try to reply to that at some point today. Just hopped on here real quick to check a few things.






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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: openmind]
    #26893927 - 08/22/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

man....even from around 9am this morning until now this afternoon I can notice the leaf curl spreading across all of my plants even more.


My head is spinning not knowing wtf to do. I can't find the miticides I want to use from local grow shops and if I wait 7 to 14 days for some to arrive in the mail my plants will be done for by them for sure. I have a sample of some stuff being sent to me but I don't know how long that's going to take to arrive.


I applied spinosad about a week ago mainly for any potential caterpillars & thrips through out flowering, this is before I saw any signs of mites....And last night I applied some again but more concentrated than before after hearing it can supposedly kill russet mights.

I've heard a handful of people say that some stuff called "conserve sc" works for russet mites and others, and I found out that's just some highly concentrated spinosad. (compared to the "concentrate" that is found in most garden shops/aisles)

But from last night until this morning, and from this morning until now, I don't see any stop in the overall spreading of the leaf edges curling in more parts of every plant.

One plant doesn't appear to have any leaves with edges curling but all of the buds have brown/dark red pistils that are all small and I feel they should be producing trichomes at this point but they still don't have any.


I've heard diluted iso-alcohol can kill em' pretty well, but I can't find iso-alcohol anywhere because of the current events....might try to get some cheap vodka :shrug: .






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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26894292 - 08/22/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Plants are outdoors and too big to do things like dunking. They're all already roughly 1 to 3 weeks into flowering, still in the earliest stages of flowering but calyxs & pistils have def started to cluster/stack enough that the lil baby buds are all defined at the nodes (but I can tell their development is being impacted by the mites).


I have already removed several branches from each plant and I'm about to do another round of any shoot or branch with many curled leaves and burning em'. It sucks seeing em' like that when they were such glorious plants just last week. Two of em' are somewhat medium-large plants too, around 6ft+ tall each and 5ft to 7ft wide with somewhere around 40+ potential main colas each/nice full canopy of tops.

I was considering using sulfur.

From looking at pics online I feel that I'm still in the early stages of the infestation  but I can tell that these lil bastards infiltrate the plants quickly.

I'm going to go around a few more places in my area tomorrow and see what I can find, I'm going to get something tomorrow for sure tho. I have some stuff on the way that I believe uses enzymes of sorts as one of its "active" components but it won't be here until next week at the earliest.

Thinking about doing a mix of a simple soap and aromatic plant extract/oils (rosemary, cinnamon, maybe another or two) diluted in water, just not sure on what sort of ratios to use.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26898999 - 08/25/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

At sun down yesterday I applied a mixture of rosemary & lavender essential oils, castile soap, and iso-alcohol to my plants (diluted in water of course)....

....From all the reading I've done over the past 48 hours about mites it seems like some folks have had success at wiping out mites with certain essential oils, rosemary in particular.

I've found that some of the bottled/labeled products that have worked for people are basically just a mixture of oils, soaps/detergents, and alcohol...but tremendously marked up in price.


I can't find the microbial based bio-insecticides I want locally, I don't want to wait for it to be shipped, and I only have so much $ to work with and I need to do something about it ASAP so I'm hoping my concoction works.

This morning I gave the plants a rinse down before sunrise just in case there was potential for phytotoxicity from the oils/soap. On one plant there are a few mild spots of what I suspect might be damage on a few leaves but no real noticeable detrimental impact on the plants today.

I'll be doing another spray with my mixture at sundown today, then rinsing them again in the morning. I feel it'll prob take 2 to 3 days before I can really tell how much of an impact it's making.


I'm at least going to put up a fight and try...I'm still in early flowering, I feel like I have a week or so to really make an impact on these mites before it's "too late".

I feel like I don't have a major infestation, I'm really not sure how severe it is since this is the first time I'm dealing with it, but I can tell they're definitely impacting the development of the buds. Almost makes some of the colas appear as if they've "stalled"/aborted development even though all the leaves are standing up towards the sun and green/lush (all pistils are brown/shriveled as soon as they develop).

I assuming the main sign showing that I've wiped out a good portion of the mites is that white pistils will start to emerge from the buds like they normally do along with the number leaves that have their edges curling no longer increasing/spreading through the plant....?....



Two of my plants don't appear to be impacted as much and they actually have buds that are developing properly and even some trichomes starting to form on the fan leaves & buds. I don't know if it'll make a difference at all but I'm going to try to move those two away from the others since they're in 30gal pots I should be able to move em' around (can only move them a few yards away tho).



Kinda already have it in my mind that I might end up with absolutely nothing to harvest this year, after growing 9 of the best looking plants I've ever grown....Still really hurts tho :sadyes: .....It'll be a loss of about $350 for me (about how much I put into this year's grow) and more than a year supply of flower. Being on a super tight budget and growing my own herb to save a bunch of money it's pretty shitty. I dread having to pay for weed for the next year and it also being medicore taxed weed . I've been so looking forward to not having to pay for mediocre over priced taxed weed any more. The stuff in stores isn't that great compared to my home grown and I don't know anyone local with good weed any more...And with how crazy shit is going in this country/world these days I really hate not having a supply on hand...If I do lose them all then I'm hoping to find some trim work this fall.




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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26900378 - 08/26/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Just sayin... Cut, burn, seed, wait.





I wish it was that easy. I feel it's too late to start some new plants, even autos. And I can't afford the cost of purchasing seeds right now (if I could afford it, I'd be getting the specific miticides I need instead).

I do live in Cali so it's kinda possible with our relatively mild winters, but even if I started some autos within the next week or two those plants wouldn't be ready until sometime near December and I'd have to deal with rain/high humidity and frost and short days and sunlight that is relatively dim. Def not the ideal time to be growing cannabis.

And I'd still have to deal with mites since the plants are outdoors, tho granted in cooler temps they're not as big of a threat. Getting new plants isn't going to solve the issue of mites. I'd still have to buy some sort of miticide to prevent the new plants form becoming infested. I feel that my entire neighborhood is likely chock full of hemp mites. Every block in my area has several houses that are growing dozens & dozens of large cannabis plants in their backyards. I imagine that influences the local population of cannabis pests, especially hemp/russet mites which only have one specific host plant that they feed on (cannabis).

Hemp/russet mites are a threat out in the west in general, but I'm sure all of the plants being grown in my neighborhood is making the local population go up even more.




These damn mites have put me in such a low place the past few days :nonono: . My plants are more than just "some smoke" to me and more than just a way to save some $. It's more than just a craft/hobby to me. I've been going through the roughest & most difficult & most lowly times of my life over the past couple years and taking care of these plants has been like a daily therapy & meditation for me. Might sound ridiculous but these plants are basically what has got me out of bed every day the past 4 to 5 months and harvesting them is one of the only things in my life that I've had to "look forward to" for a long time.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26906013 - 08/29/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just an up-date on my situation with the mites.


I seem to have made an impact on their #s and how much they were spreading/increasing. I'm basing that off of visual cues such as no longer seeing the amount of leaves with their edges curling increasing & spreading through out my plants. Before I started to do something about the issue I was noticing more & more leaves with their edges starting to curl up each day, even from morning until the evening I was noticing more. That seems to have slowed down a lot to the point I'm not really noticing any new leaves with their edges curling.

Also....buds that previously had nothing but brown/red shriveled pistils that were pretty much DOA as soon as they developed are now pushing out white pistils that are "alive", and trichomes are starting to form on those buds as well. They still don't look as great as they should but I am noticing an improvement and they now appear as if they are starting to develop & swell up.



What I've done so far.....

First I cut out/removed branches & shoots that had a lot of leaves with their edges curling, mostly from the lower & middle portion of the plants but some tops/entire branches as well.

Then I used rosemary & lavender oils (15ml), with castile soap (5ml) & iso-alcohol (15ml @ 70% iso) all diluted & mixed up with 48 ounces of water.

I applied that concoction at sundown two evenings in a row, then the following morning I'd give the plants a rinse down with water from the hose at sunrise.

After applying that essential oil mixture two evenings in a row, on the 3rd day/evening I gave the plants a foliar of aloe vera along with a small amount of lavendar oil mixed in (it was the last of the essential oil I had on hand). I feel aloe has a lot to offer plants and can help a plants "immune" system & response to stress.

I didn't rinse my plants the morning after giving them that aloe/lavender foliar.

The following evening (2 nights ago as of today) I gave the plants a spray down with an enzyme based pesticide/fungicide ("Dr. Zymes").

Last night was the first night I haven't sprayed my plants with anything since I was all out of everything I've had on hand.


I'm going to try to get some more of that enzyme based stuff (I only had a small free sample of it), I think that stuff might be my best bet at keeping mites & eggs dead. But I know I should be using more than one component to battle these things.

I'm also considering getting some Beauveria bassiana, thanks for the heads up about that Ninja cat & Liz Wiz :wink:...Looks like some relatively cheap stuff. I haven't read too much stuff about it working specifically for russet/hemp mites, but it does claim to work for mites in general. Only other issue is that the humidity is pretty low in my area and it's said to work best when there is some humidity, but the humidity near the surface of the plant/leaves is usually higher than the ambient.



Things aren't looking dramatically better, but they're not looking any worse either :shrug: ...Well, somewhat, I will say that a few of my plants did get some damage from phytotoxicity from the mixture of oils/soap/alcohol, nothing severe to my eyes tho (just some speckled burn marks on some leaves and a few developing buds were burnt, I'll take that over mites tho lol). Some plants weren't impacted by the oils at all.

Two of my plants don't seem to be as infected/infested as the others and are starting to frost up a bit with trichomes.

My plan from here is trying to get some more of that enzyme based stuff today or tomorrow and keeping up on applying that every day to every other day for at least another week or so, then maybe slowing down to using it only every 3 to 5 days...And if I'm able to get some, I'll be applying some Beauveria bassiana as well. I don't want to use essential oils much more since they seem a little harsh on the plants and I don't want to be smoking buds that taste like rosemary & lavender (even tho it's diluted quite a bit), but they def seem to have worked as a "knock out" killer.

I still don't have a proper scope strong enough to actually see the mites, but everything I'm seeing points to that being the issue. (when the issue first started I could see what I believe were mites on the leaves, looked like specs of dust basically.)...I feel like these bastards are within the developing buds more so than within the leaves tho.


So I might end up with a little something to harvest, but I'm still not counting on it until I have a better idea of how under control I have things and until I start seeing more buds developing as they should.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Ran-D]
    #26906419 - 08/29/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just a typical hand held pump sprayer, like this>>>





It does seem to have a somewhat smaller droplet size/finer spray compared to most "sprayers", like compared to a typical squeeze/trigger action sprayer, but it's not one that creates a super fine mist.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26907835 - 08/30/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Today things are officially starting to look "better" on a few of my plants. The buds & tops of the plants have a green-glow about them again and the buds are pushing out white pistils & trichomes are starting to frost the foliage and there's actually some aroma to them.

Around the inside/lower portion of my biggest plants I did spot a few mites/curled leaves on some shoots/buds sites last night (which I would be removing anyways since those parts of the plants don't get much sun)....So I know I haven't totally eradicated them and I actually kinda expected to still see some in the depths of the plant but I have def wiped out a large portion of them.

I just gotta stay vigilant and on top of it.



To add to my worries...Yesterday a gopher/hole popped up about 3ft away from the stalk of one of my big in ground plants. I collapsed a portion of the tunnel and placed a trap in part of the tunnel. I feel the portion I collapsed has prevented the gopher from traveling down the tunnel towards the plant/roots because the hole is still open (gophers will usually close openings to their tunnels within a few hours at most), the trap hasn't gone off, and the apples I placed as bait have not been touched.

Since I already have it in my mind and have accepted that there's a chance I might not harvest anything this fall, seeing that gopher hole so close to my plants didn't bother me as much as it would have if it happened before this situation with the mites lol.


I'm going to let some alfalfa, kelp, & fish/fishbone meal ferment a bit for a few days with some LAB and molasses...That will probably be the last real "feeding" I give my soil/plants. Then from there on out it'll just be water with some aloe & LAB & molasses here & there. (Staying hopeful that I'll have a lil something to harvest)







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I managed to destroy a year long spider mite infestation in my indoor tent....





Thanks for sharing your experience with mites and a break-down of what worked for you :wink: .

I hear spider mites are a lil easier to deal with & get rid of compared to hemp/russet mites, but the same sort of things that kill spider mites should deal with hemp/russets as well.

I would consider using neem if I wasn't already in flowering. And with growing outdoors, and with a lot of plants being grown in my neighborhood, I feel they'll always be present. Next time around I'll have a much more proper IPM regimen and using things that can help prevent/repel them from taking hold on a plant.






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In 2 months the season here will be over.

I would avoid neem in flower since it smells and tastes so strong. Also, there is at least anecdotal evidence that it has some health effects.





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If I was still in veg this whole situation would be a bit easier and I'd have more options to work with.






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I'm also considering getting some Beauveria bassiana, thanks for the heads up about that Ninja cat & Liz Wiz :wink:...Looks like some relatively cheap stuff. I haven't read too much stuff about it working specifically for russet/hemp mites, but it does claim to work for mites in general. Only other issue is that the humidity is pretty low in my area and it's said to work best when there is some humidity, but the humidity near the surface of the plant/leaves is usually higher than the ambient.





It's the only thing that got the aphids and whitefly off my kratom plants, most of the year is around 10% humidity and it worked fine. It's been a bit more humid recently (30-80 depending on the day) and I haven't noticed much of a difference. It's some seriously impressive stuff.





Cool!

Good to know.

Humidity in my area lately has been around 15% to 20% during the day and 50% to 65% at night, and it'll only be on the increase as the days become shorter & cooler as we head towards the solstice.







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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: openmind]
    #26908518 - 08/30/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Got me a bottle of some enzyme/citric acid based stuff today (Dr. Zymes), enough to last me through the rest of the season. I read a bit about it and people have had success with it using it to wipe out mites & other soft bodied insects. I don't wanna get too excited about it but I feel this will help carry the plants over to harvest with out becoming infested with mites.

I got a small free sample of it a few days ago but it was only enough for one single application and was barely enough to cover all of my plants the way I wanted to (very thoroughly lol). And tho I did apply the essential oils/soap/alcohol for a few days before I used the sample of the stuff I feel it def helped to get rid of the mites as well.

Glad to have a bottle of the stuff on hand now, I'll be giving the plants a spray down after sunset this evening.


I don't know who all was following this thread last year....but if any of you recall, last year I had a plant that started to develop some sort of issue around the end of September. It basically looked like the buds along the lower portion of the plant had the life sucked out of them and this issue was spreading upwards through the buds and plant each day (I ended up harvesting it early). The buds along the lower part of the plant stopped developing and were no longer lush/vibrant green, all of the pistils turned brown/red and shriveled, the heads of the trichomes themselves appeared "deflated" and shrunken (previously were fat milky heads), and when giving the bud a little pinch & smell it had basically no aroma/terps (where before it was pine & lemon & gas)....

....I was never sure what the issue actually was and suspected it may have been some mold/fungi infection of some sort or something going on with my roots, but in hindsight I believe it may have been these damn mites sucking the life out of my buds and I just didn't recognize it at the time (since this grow is my first time experiencing a definite mite issue). I feel like they were probably concentrated in the buds themselves so I wasn't seeing much of any signs/symptoms of them on the leaves. And I just wasn't all that familiar with issue of mites in general....I am now tho :crazy: .






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