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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Hunter hunter] * 2
    #27321290 - 05/24/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Hunter hunter said: It’s amazing nobody wants to work anymore.  Ok enough off topic sorry.




I never wanted to work from the start, I only do it to pay the rent.  I'd be more inclined to work my fingers to the bone if jobs paid anything close to a living wage.  When they do I work hard and at a high quality.

Who's doing outdoor this year?  I'm curious what people are planting out, when they are planting out vs latitude plating at, and what's your soil mix of choice?

I'm putting a Maine's Own Blueberry out on June 10th at 45.5 in a 45 gallon smart pot with E.B. Stone 420 mix, dolomite lime, oyster shell, azomite, E.B. Stone general organic mix 5-5-5, earth worm castings, alfalfa, deer poop, and...love?

Gross, who put this love in here?


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27321300 - 05/24/21 02:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

More off topic:  It bugs the absolute shit out of me that we can't use stone points for archery deer here in Oregon.  That's some culture erasing shit that's not science backed.  I know a few archers who hunt cervids with stone points and home made bows.  They do a hell of a lot better than most people who use modern archery equipment

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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #27322394 - 05/25/21 10:00 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So that got me thinking about this weirdness. It seems like the plant would just explode and turn into a monster bush between breaking apical dominance and the extra roots.





Nope.  I could easily out produce that plant in half the time by just growing two separate plants in two pots in the same space and training/trimming them.

Turning pots on their side is also a bad idea.  You want that pot upright and disturbed as little as possible.  Roots are sensitive and easily disturbed, that's why I always pick up pots with two hands so I disturb the soil less.  If you want to LST train a plant, then bend it over by increments with the pot upright.  I've done A LOT of lst training and that's how I get the best results.  The giant bushy plant in the 45 gallon pot that I posted a picture of on page 211 was grown using LST. 

There's lots of people making fabulous claims about how they have "hacked" plants and 99.999% is absolute garbage from people that lack the experience to understand they have harmed their harvest.

I would suggest you pick a medium and style of growing and focus on getting good at that.  Learn the plants inside and out.  Learn how they react to different conditions, what their deficiencies look like, when to flip them to flower and how much they will stretch.  How to train them in the space you have.  What RH you need to maintain in order to keep them happy, but also prevent bud rot.  What pests look like and how they affect the plants.  How to get rid of the pests without stressing your plants by overusing pesticides (organic or not).

Then once you really know cannabis, start playing with it.

Without that base knowledge from experience you won't be able to tell if what you are doing is helping or harming the plants.

Also if you are getting you info from reddit please don't.  There is nothing on reddit but ego, inexperience, and perfect examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect in motion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect


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Cannabis growers [Re: openmind]
    #27322856 - 05/25/21 04:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I feel you on the uncertainty.  I was lucky to grow some big plants in the desert last year and I feel that itch got nice and scratched. 

I'm headed out to sign a lease today on a new place, and I really scored.  It's a lot split between two houses that share a backyard and as the landlords led me into the yard on the house tour the first thing I saw was two cannabis plants in the ground already.  My porch will likely have one or two photos in 20 gal pots, TLO all the way with some fish emulsion and rainbow mix scratched in around flowering time.

NICE that you got in on a Mephisto order, have to be first in line and have more to barter than a dairy cow for those magic beans!  I've always wanted to grow a couple of cute 3bears for some night time smoke.  The Mango smile and Strawberry Mango Nuggets sound absolutely killer.  Autos don't need much root space, even the sativa doms probably won't max out a thirty gallon.  If you've never grown autos before be warned that they are very nute sensitive, I doubt the will need any feed after being placed in that soil.

That said, I've heard great things about nectar of the gods.  Can't wait to see how that works out for you!


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Re: Cannabis growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27322975 - 05/25/21 06:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

If the whole point of LST is to stress the plant less (low stress training) then moving the pot around and placing it on it's side will end up stressing it more and defeating the purpose.  I have had containers fall on their side and the plants do change their growth to reach the light, but they were stressed more than the other plants and didn't do as well.

Yes, it will work, but it will reduce your overall harvest.  If it's just for funsies then do it an have fun, but if you are doing it to try and increase your harvest there are much better ways.

If a growing tip of a cannabis plant is placed in soil it will likely grow roots as long as it doesn't rot, but it again would harm the overall harvest vs two separate clones or plants in the same space.  Air rooting is a form of low stress / high success cloning where a stem is scraped, rooting compound applied, and soil held around it with saran wrap or similar.  I prefer this method when trying to grab a cutting off of a blueberry plant.  It's a super fun thing to do with plants, but cramming the apical branch of a plant into a pot will reduce your overall harvest. 

Again, if it's just for funsies and not trying to increase your harvest per square foot then go have fun with it!


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27329354 - 05/30/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I quit training before as they go into stretch.  I try to train them during vege with the anticipation of the area they will stretch into.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a]
    #27329356 - 05/30/21 03:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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It’s gotta be female cuz it’s super healthy and hasn’t shown at seven weeks now.







But you never know!  Don't bet on it and have a contingency plan ready.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #27329472 - 05/30/21 05:40 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Well, shit.  The friend I've been growing cannabis for had his cancer come back and it's pretty bad.  The truest thing I've ever heard said about cancer is that it has impeccable taste.  This guy is one of the best.

I'm gonna go bring him another jar.

Cherish your friends while they're still here.


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Cannabis growing [Re: A.k.a]
    #27330151 - 05/31/21 09:19 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

What light are you using, how far above the canopy is it suspended, what are you feeding with?

Coco is for all intents and purposes a hydroponic medium.  It will need it's on specific nutes that have been properly PHed, unless you're using the advanced PH perfect line.  Personally I grow in organic soil, so I don't mess around with the stuff, but I want to this winter.

Also what strains are you running?


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Re: Cannabis growing [Re: A.k.a]
    #27330184 - 05/31/21 09:55 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I was about to crap all over vipar spectra before I compared the new model to my HLG quantum and it's got the same driver and uses the same line of diodes.  I guess they have updated their gear for the better, that's good to see.

Beware the care needed for coco in flower.  That same responsiveness goes both ways and a plant in coco can very suddenly develop PH and Nute def problems.  Also sometimes in flower you may find yourself watering/feeding twice a day if your canopy develops enough.  This can be mitigated with auto watering systems as simple as blumats.  You probably already know this from research, but I like to babble as if I know something :shrug::lol:

As for the lollypopping, in a way absolutely.  Indoors I remove anything that isn't going to be getting direct light.  I want top buds, not popcorn.  I like to remove the lower growth, let it recover, flip to flower, and the stretch is what gets flowered out.  Another great way to grow is screen of green.  That's how I've gotten the heaviest yields in small spaces.  I just strip everything below the screen and flip it to flower to stretch and fill.  Great with small spaces and smaller LED lights.

Outdoors I tend to strip out the inside of my plants to form a big hollow ball.  This allows for airflow and directs nutes to the apical buds receiving the most light.  I got a surprisingly small amount of popcorn buds and shake last year on my outdoor girls.  Tons of big buds.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: koods]
    #27330298 - 05/31/21 11:59 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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About two weeks ago I reported on this small male plant being kept outside was flowering and producing pollen. The male was removed from the patio where the other plants are. Now I’ve discovered that two of the female plants are also flowering and have been pollinated and have rather developed seeds already.

How is this possible in mid May? These are outdoor plants.




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This plant was started back in March and has been outside for at least a month. Why is it flowering? It’s already producing pollen. Don’t mind the cicadas they’re on everything.









You put them out too early, the daylight hours were not long enough yet, it forced the plants to flower.

At this point your option is start over from scratch.

I don't put plants out until June 10th.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: koods] * 1
    #27330445 - 05/31/21 02:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

As they day becomes longer your female plants are going to try and revert to vege growth.  They will likely succeed, but because they are already so far into flower it will be some not great growth.  They will also likely trigger into flower later than they normally would have at the end of the summer.  Personally I would expect to get more healthy growth out of some new clones put out in early june than I would some plants that are struggling with mixed messages.

Your plants your call though.  If you keep growing them please keep posting pictures of their growth so we can watch them revege.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27331645 - 06/01/21 04:47 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Neem or Pyrethrum does the trick for me.  Don't forget to treat your whole grow space, plants, pots, walls, ect.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: hummingbird]
    #27334067 - 06/03/21 04:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Careful with nutes on those autos, they're super sensitive to them.  Start at 1/4 strength and work your way up.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: koods]
    #27334068 - 06/03/21 04:49 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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I might just use these plants for seed. I have a dozen more I started later.





That's the spirit!  Just pop more beans, plants like friends.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Ran-D]
    #27335808 - 06/04/21 11:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Autos have come a long way in the "desirable" department.  I like growing autos for fun in a little 2x2 tent.  I can stagger plant count and timing, or make a bunch of seeds for fun.  I live in a very small house and it's nice not having to run a vege area as well.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27336080 - 06/05/21 08:19 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I used to Mod over at Autoflower.n** and I have seen 1 LB+ indoor autos quite frequently.  They can totally beast out in the right conditions.

I really want to get my hands on some tropical sativa autos to run outdoors here in Oregon.  I think that's be a real hoot.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #27336084 - 06/05/21 08:21 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

What's the aroma of that Neville's like?

Those stacking bracts have my mouth watering.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: TheStallionMang] * 2
    #27338303 - 06/07/21 12:44 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Usually yellow leaves on new growth is a nitrogen deficiency

Assuming your using a decent fert regimen, they're probably getting enough micro-nutrients




Nitrogen def works backwards from that.  It yellows starting with the oldest leaves and works it's way in to the newer growth last.

Dammit, how'd I become such a lightwight, one hit of flower and I can barely type.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
    #27338312 - 06/07/21 12:55 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)



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