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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: hummingbird]
    #25306722 - 07/03/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't mind a little color in my girls, I like the fall look. 









These were taken down a little while back. All my ladies are grown indoors in recycled organic soil, the base of which is now 7 or 8 years old. Things like kelp, alfalfa, crab meal, gypsum, fishone meal, neem, rock dusts, etc.

Well made AACT will do wonders, so do seed sprout teas. Aloe and yucca extracts and some humic and fulvic acids.

I do occasionally run into issues here and there, but when it goes right...it goes sooo right. Never that generic nutrient line taste or smell in any strain. I'd rather have an ounce of top shelf than a pound of commercial.




Crab meal as in the exoskeleton? or meat? I always find tiny dead crabs at the beach ima start bringing them home and adding to the soil of itd be good.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
    #25307093 - 07/03/18 08:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the florida soil was in bottom middle as well as up one and to the left, possibly all three bottoms if I ran out of mixture


Theres sand in the bottom parts of this image where grass cleared, I found/used some dirt.

I also tried sand, which makes the soil compact, which is what I try to do the opposite of with lots of perlite, one of the things anyways.




Your soil looks waterlogged


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25307103 - 07/03/18 08:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't lived in florida for years.

I moved to vermont to grow legal marijuana.

That was me twelve years ago when I was still making soils that got waterlogged before doing the entire twelve year experiment with soils. Which seems to be somewhere around where youre at right now, me twelve years ago making waterlogged soils before trying my first soilless mixture.

Also I think I had pots and no soil and started digging it up to get the plants I wanted in pots.

If these werent confiscated I'd have pictures of 40+ strains by now

Do you see a soilless mixture that will saturate in that image even though i didnt have enough perlite for the bunch?



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...wait, this thread is about succulents? Well fuck me, I'm in the wrong place.





Every single plant I tried followed suite.

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every plant I tried after this followed suite. Since then I've tried various self made soilless mixtures to alter performance.




This seems to be one of the only images I can find of multiple plants








Countless species were tested.



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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25308312 - 07/04/18 01:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

This is the blackberry fire plant that I was trying to decide if I should start flushing. I might be able to get better pics later. The noon sun was in the way.








This is my Sour D. The next to flower.



These are my two Gelato clones. I think I'm either going to re-pot or put them in the ground soon. Right now they are in 3 gallon containers





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25308323 - 07/04/18 01:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Some of my lower quality long ass flowering sativa chopped very prematurely at like day 90 something, the grow that showed the flaw in not having a pump installed inside the hydroponics res.


this was like day 40ish


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id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: ItsAxe419]
    #25308841 - 07/04/18 08:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I dont like removing anything because if light is getting there it will grow nicely. In general I try to leave on surface area.

However I did lollipop a dinafem white widow auto and it was a gigantic cola. It is something I'll be trying again especially in my compact setup its kind of the plan.


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Bubbling wont kill the plant it provides oxygen for the roots, I've bought a really large pump for my system, that when i first got it was so strong where it was pumping air formed a large fountain like area of bubbles inside the res pushing upwards, allw ater moving around somewhat voilently due to it. The thing has gotten fucked up by flooding since. More air to the water the better, and it will never get stale like a fishtank without air going to it where it gets nasty shit forming on top. that saturation is bad, should signify no oxygen.

As long as there is nutes in the water and its changed every so often, and the ph is close enough to right, the only thing to make sure is that you dont stick the plant too far into the water just hang the roots into the water, as I've had large mothers I've carelessly trimmed the bottom sections off of and shoved them into flowering containers and rotted out their wounds...

As far as using coco in a netpot it holds water, my first try without the foams was with perlite and it works but went through the netpot and the plants werent held up that well with it once larger. You could go as far as using small little rocks you find on the ground the only thing that is important about this substrate is that your plant will not fall over, the water is 100% everything, its the soil, it holds nutes long term, and this is what I believe is how this part works where a soil can saturate holding water that eventually deprives of oxygen then needs more water into waterlogged soil and its a problem, an airpump provides the oxygen to the hydroponic systems not new waterings.

However you have the plants above the water does not matter at all it could literally be a floating tray like styrofoam with holes that the plants leaves prevent the plant from falling through the hole Ive used this a few times and still am outdoors on lettuce and cabbage atm. Or if you could magically levitate them above the water they dont need anything. A plant inside of a netpot will lean over, rocks inside of this prevents them from leaning. A netpot can float on a styrofoam raft just fine its just more work putting one in a thicker piece of styrofoam than drilling a small hole.

When I first started I used fox farms inside of high phed water and it was ok, but not optimal. Clean the roots well and it will take a few days for it to form its water roots.

I clone in coco then goto hydro, switching the types of roots the plant has. Only because I can micro propogate and mass root atm only with coco and my success rates with coco rooting can be up to 100% and my hydro attempts at rooting have been massive failures. I've taken many larger plants from coco to hydro no problem as well. The only ones that died had wounds submerged or roots that werent touching water.

I want to try aquaponics by putting a plant in a shallow marshy area in lake champlain on a painted styrofoam raft.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #25308912 - 07/04/18 09:21 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I hear that bro. Coco is all i ever clone w. Adding a small amount of mycorrhizae powder to it has really uped my game in regard to healthier white roots that def seem to be appearing quicker than straight coco.






Everytime I get momentum i've had to start my grows over for many reasons.

I think I've used coco a few ways one being high perlite with high success rates, I think recently I've been using straight coco in a shoebox, with the lid on the shoebox at first, and the coco provides adequate moisture. I think I've had success in low heat without any lid on the plants and then in higher heat require a lid on the shoebox.

I rooted 80-100 plants micro propagated 100% success in pure coco in a single shoebox if I remember right, however it was fresh coco i think after I use the batch once or twice algae and mold start rampaging shit maybe I just need to sterilize it each time.

Theres been times where Ive gotten momentum and was getting 100% success and times where Ive had 100% failrate possibly needing to sterilize the soil I'm thinking.


look at the shoeboxes here :


The plants that went into hydro were taken from those shoeboxes these were micropropogation tests where I took say one 5 inch area and made 3-5 clones with it.

i've never tried mycorhizzae but have been looking into it due to gyroporous cyanescens and clitocybe odora I have bought grain of both being mycorhizzal and using a method they call "landing" to put or land it by a tree.


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


Edited by merch137 (07/04/18 09:27 PM)


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KenInVic]
    #25308918 - 07/04/18 09:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I had around 40 strains confiscated in 2017 and waited almost a year before I started to grow again.



This is the last image of that grow (before adding more lights that I just ruined the other day) before it turned into a disaster that I no longer wanted to take care of until harvest. Compared hydro vs coco of the same strains already.


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


Edited by merch137 (07/04/18 10:40 PM)


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
    #25308931 - 07/04/18 09:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the wave of clones. For that batch i think i did veg. To get things going faster I'm rooting in flowering right now and putting them into hydro as soon as possible they will still get around a foot tall.


Here's some boss hogg cuts grafted onto a large ass amnesia/sativa that was like a year old itself that was more than likely a clone looking like a fuckin tree lost those too the trunks were overgrowing 2 inch netpots. These were the mother plants of all those clones.



I put diesal autos on here and I did fertilize them and I did get seeds in veg.

I had like 5 strains on this big ass sativa. These were some amnesias that got flowered, accidentally revegged, flowered, then I decided they were so big and produced so many clones I couldnt dispose of them so i took them out of the tent and grew them in the room with my oldest lights.





I wasn't trying to be against organics or the sun. When I hear soil I think of something black, compact, and waterlogged. Once the plants are large a little more water retention seems ideal but when they are small they wont be able to suck up all the water and it will saturate.

I was going to use cow shit in my first grows mixed in soil was told that was leeching nitrogen and just to use liquid fertilizers/fox farms, I tried using bone meal or blood meal at one point and had to supplement it with liquid nutes, burning the plants. Being able to control whats available to the plant by not providing it anything in the soil was the easiest way to get healthy plants, so I didnt bother with organics although I see strong looking vegetables grown this way I still dont think end quality vs hydro is going to be better due to vigor should be on the other side. As far as organics goes I just started using liquid ferts as it was the solution, and continued down that road. As far as soil goes, soilless mixtures were really more effective in vigor, and trying to fluff out soil with perlite was nasty and black perlite. Organic hydroponics is aquaponics and that I havent tried although I don't really think that would produce better results than my current setup. What I'm using is the most effective I've seen in many areas. After switching to this fert I compared it to fox farms in soil as well as hydro. It was like upgrading to soilless mixtures all over again. I had like 100 dollars worth of shit to upkeep with foxfarms between ph, 3x foxfarms bottles, and calmag. Now i'm using one twenty dollar bottle for all of those functions.


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


Edited by merch137 (07/05/18 06:01 AM)


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lipa Kreepa] * 2
    #25314357 - 07/08/18 02:36 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Pennywise. A little over halfway.


Two that were just flipped- Cookie Monster and Raspberry Kush(top).



Pineapple Express very close to harvest.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Feroxx] * 1
    #25314474 - 07/08/18 06:09 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Good stuff guys! I sure wish I could grow indoors. Living in hell, is rough on plants, and I have lost a lot due to the extreme heat, sadly. My plants are so far behind, that last year, around this time, I had some 7 footers by now. Here are a few that I put out recently, hopefully they will make it, and I'll get something. I'll not hold my breath.

This first one I caught just in time. it was wilted beyond belief, before I watered it.









It has been so hot, that I couldn't even make it out to my older plants. I'm not even sure they are all still alive. I reckon, this may be my last year growing, unless I move out of hell :frown:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KannaKris]
    #25314613 - 07/08/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Good stuff guys! I sure wish I could grow indoors. Living in hell, is rough on plants, and I have lost a lot due to the extreme heat, sadly. My plants are so far behind, that last year, around this time, I had some 7 footers by now. Here are a few that I put out recently, hopefully they will make it, and I'll get something. I'll not hold my breath.

This first one I caught just in time. it was wilted beyond belief, before I watered it.









It has been so hot, that I couldn't even make it out to my older plants. I'm not even sure they are all still alive. I reckon, this may be my last year growing, unless I move out of hell :frown:




You could set up a shade cloth canopy. those green machines are lookin green


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: hummingbird]
    #25314645 - 07/08/18 09:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Pineapple Express very close to harvest.





Looking nice! Love the senecense. Looks a lot like the one I grew a few years back.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
    #25314660 - 07/08/18 09:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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This guy is the one that really deserved ban as well if anyone wants to believe this trash over ten years of experimenting with all kinds methods as well as extensively with leds that makes these guys clearly out of their realm of knowledge still acting like they know better when they do not know anything on the topic. Plus net pots just arent the solution as well when using nursery pots or bags for mass planting, it doesnt even sound as good and wouldnt give the same results thats clear as day just reading the difference.

How would I know soil that holds a lot of water works if I didnt try  it twelve years ago and then extended upon trying it into different forms of trying ti into other methods, into even more methods, and finding the best methods? You've got to try things like full coco (water retention) vs mostly perlite and then see what the roots look like how fast the roots took over the medium, which relates to how fast the plant above ground will progress as well. Just talking to you, you have done none of this and probably have rarely if never trimmed roots in different mediums either.

Look at your plants in the corner of your house. You will either need a lot more experimenting to do with that shitty soil or you can stay getting really really inferior results that would never be considered when put beside mine. The best excuse is you cant afford to take care of those plants which has been my problem with the plants you point out (youre talking about mass planting and dug up soil). However you're standing so strongly by youre original arguements you cant play this card.




You keep calling my soil shitty as an insult, but I take it as a compliment. I have some of the shittiest soil. It took me years and years of trial, error, experimenting, and reasearh to hone my shitty soil mix.

I wouldn't take the advice of someone who schizophrenically rants about soil and doesn't even know what humus is, or proper compost is, or that a good soil doesn't start with dirt you find in Florida after digging up some grass, or thinks that a good soil mix is 40% coco and 60% perlite, or doesn't even know what a fabric pot is....

I also wouldn't take the advice of someone who post this as an example of their bud. That's for damn sure.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: mmcc]
    #25315022 - 07/08/18 01:21 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Good stuff guys! I sure wish I could grow indoors. Living in hell, is rough on plants, and I have lost a lot due to the extreme heat, sadly. My plants are so far behind, that last year, around this time, I had some 7 footers by now. Here are a few that I put out recently, hopefully they will make it, and I'll get something. I'll not hold my breath.

This first one I caught just in time. it was wilted beyond belief, before I watered it.









It has been so hot, that I couldn't even make it out to my older plants. I'm not even sure they are all still alive. I reckon, this may be my last year growing, unless I move out of hell :frown:




You could set up a shade cloth canopy. those green machines are lookin green




Yeah, but those plants are a several mile walk from my house, out in the middle of nowhere. This is why I can't go to water them as much, and why they look like shit. People also hunt, fish, and do only God knows what else out there, so I don't want them to be seen. Thanks for the tip, though :cool:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KannaKris]
    #25315047 - 07/08/18 01:46 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I could use some help. I think I fucked my plant up pretty bad and I'm not sure why it's not recovering. It's an auto flower and I guess people say you should transplant them. Here's what it looks like.







I think it's related to ph possibly and will try to get some soil tests when I'm in town tomorrow. I transplanted it into some super soil that was really rich but a bit muddy. It started to show all those burnt leaves and drop and kept getting worse. I decided to take it out of the soil. mixed that soil with a bunch of coco coir and perlite and put it  back in the pot. Now the leaf damaged has pretty well stopped but it doesn't seem to be recovering really. Maybe root damage from all the moving. I gave it a light feeding of seagull guano and sulfate of potash when I watered it because I heard it helps roots develop.

Do you think it's salvageable?


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    #25315067 - 07/08/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

My other plants


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KannaKris]
    #25315683 - 07/08/18 07:02 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Good stuff guys! I sure wish I could grow indoors. Living in hell, is rough on plants, and I have lost a lot due to the extreme heat, sadly. My plants are so far behind, that last year, around this time, I had some 7 footers by now. Here are a few that I put out recently, hopefully they will make it, and I'll get something. I'll not hold my breath.

This first one I caught just in time. it was wilted beyond belief, before I watered it.









It has been so hot, that I couldn't even make it out to my older plants. I'm not even sure they are all still alive. I reckon, this may be my last year growing, unless I move out of hell :frown:





Did you add anything to the native soil? There are many things to help hold moisture. Starting by what you put in the ground with them. I would get some brown mulch or at the very least some leaves and a nice layer of them at that and put them around the bases.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KannaKris] * 2
    #25315886 - 07/08/18 09:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Not impressive but still sweet. This is an update on my indirect light balcony grow. they’re vegging at top and flowering at the bottom lol.

nice houseplant with a nice treat


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: mmcc] * 2
    #25315989 - 07/08/18 11:02 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Here is my Blackberry Fire again. Should be ready soon. I've been flushing with water and molasses for the past few days. I gave all my plants their first taste of molasses this week and they seem to like it.





Here is the Sour D. I'm guessing she has 2 more weeks?



Here they are together. Best buds forever!





I'll snap a few pics of my 2 gelatos tomorrow. I transplanted them and they drooped. Then sprung up the next day and now are slightly droopy again. Maybe they're just adjusting to the hotter soil they were put in.

Next week I'll be starting 6 autoflowers!


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